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alexramos · 11-22-2009, 05:36 AM

If we take the hot-shoe of reference, between Samsung NX10 and Panasonic GF1 the difference is not so big.

The NX10 is just 7% thicker than GF1 from mount to LCD.

The NX10 maybe be taller because the EVF.

Last edited by alexramos; 11-22-2009 at 05:06 PM.

KungPOW · 11-22-2009, 10:18 AM

I don't think the NX has an optical view finder.

Spongefingers · 11-22-2009, 01:03 PM

That would be EVF.

thibs · 11-22-2009, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by KungPOW

I don't think the NX has an optical view finder.

EVF, but sill better than no VF at all IMO

alexramos · 11-22-2009, 05:05 PM

Uh, my mistake, I wanted to say EVF...

thibs
"EVF, but sill better than no VF at all IMO"

I agree...

er1kksen · 11-25-2009, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by alexramos

Uh, my mistake, I wanted to say EVF...

thibs
"EVF, but sill better than no VF at all IMO"

I agree...

Except for those people who want maximum compactness, which is the main target market of the GF1... in which case the NX is still too big because it's got the viewfinder hump.

Also, anyone check how much taller the actual body (aside from the hump) is? I've gotten the impression that there's a difference there.

In form factor and size, the NX10 we've seen so far is really closer to the G1/GH1.

Ratmagiclady · 11-25-2009, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by er1kksen

Except for those people who want maximum compactness, which is the main target market of the GF1... in which case the NX is still too big because it's got the viewfinder hump.

Also, anyone check how much taller the actual body (aside from the hump) is? I've gotten the impression that there's a difference there.

In form factor and size, the NX10 we've seen so far is really closer to the G1/GH1.

As long as it's the *right* size. Too teeny can be more trouble than it's worth, anyway. If I were in the market for this sort of thing, I'd only end up with one of those shoemount optical finders on there all the time, anyway. I think it'd good that different makers are doing different things.

Christopher M.W.T · 11-25-2009, 04:11 PM

I hate electronic viewfinders with a passion, they still just don't have the same level of quality as an optical finder.

bogiesbad · 11-25-2009, 08:22 PM

The NX10 looks to have a larger grip area than the GH1. I could not shoot for very long with my fingertips or contracted hand holding the body.

frank · 11-25-2009, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by bogiesbad

The NX10 looks to have a larger grip area than the GH1. I could not shoot for very long with my fingertips or contacted hand holding the body.

You can hold the camera like this:

bogiesbad · 11-26-2009, 08:45 PM

Frank I tend to shoot my K10 "one-handed" and like the larger grip which allows me to hold the camera with the lower three fingers leaving the thumb and index to spin those dials. I do focus, zoom, and support with my left hand but I carry the camera with my right and usually don't use a neck strap.
I am sure the GH1 is perfect for many but not for me

er1kksen · 11-26-2009, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

As long as it's the *right* size. Too teeny can be more trouble than it's worth, anyway. If I were in the market for this sort of thing, I'd only end up with one of those shoemount optical finders on there all the time, anyway. I think it'd good that different makers are doing different things.

Well, that's what I mean though. For some of us, the GF1/E-P1 are the "right" size because they can slip into a pocket with a pancake lens. Add the EVF hump, and you can't do that. Even if the other dimensions are similar, that hump adds a lot as far as the actual practical size of the thing.

artemapei · 11-29-2009, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by er1kksen

Well, that's what I mean though. For some of us, the GF1/E-P1 are the "right" size because they can slip into a pocket with a pancake lens. Add the EVF hump, and you can't do that. Even if the other dimensions are similar, that hump adds a lot as far as the actual practical size of the thing.

I do not think NX's grip will be thicker than a pancacke attached. so pocketwise - almost the same (if samsung's pancacke will be of the same size with 4\3's one)

er1kksen · 11-29-2009, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by artemapei

I do not think NX's grip will be thicker than a pancacke attached. so pocketwise - almost the same (if samsung's pancacke will be of the same size with 4\3's one)

Not the grip. The viewfinder hump. It needs to be pretty flat on top to be actually pocketable. The grip is no big deal.

Art Vandelay II · 12-01-2009, 11:37 AM

The problem with the NX10 is not the size, but the design. It just looks so flimsy and utilitarian. I'm sure it's fine to use, but from a design stand point I don't know too many people that would choose it over the E-P1 or even the G-F1. Seeing the name Samsung stuck on the prism hump doesn't help either. I think of TV's when I hear that name, not Cameras (Sony has the same issue, should have kept the Minolta name). They should do like Panasonic does and brand their cameras with a term similar to Lumix.

11-22-2009, 05:36 AM	#1
alexramos Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA, Florida Posts: 42	NX10, no so big how you think... If we take the hot-shoe of reference, between Samsung NX10 and Panasonic GF1 the difference is not so big. The NX10 is just 7% thicker than GF1 from mount to LCD. The NX10 maybe be taller because the EVF. Last edited by alexramos; 11-22-2009 at 05:06 PM.

11-25-2009, 04:11 PM	#8
Christopher M.W.T Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,689	I hate electronic viewfinders with a passion, they still just don't have the same level of quality as an optical finder. Last edited by Christopher M.W.T; 11-26-2009 at 03:45 PM.

11-25-2009, 08:22 PM	#9
bogiesbad Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Lower AL Photos: Albums Posts: 355	The NX10 looks to have a larger grip area than the GH1. I could not shoot for very long with my fingertips or contracted hand holding the body. Last edited by bogiesbad; 11-26-2009 at 08:45 PM.

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11-22-2009, 10:18 AM	#2
KungPOW Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,699	I don't think the NX has an optical view finder.

11-22-2009, 01:03 PM	#3
Spongefingers Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 237	That would be EVF.

11-22-2009, 01:52 PM	#4
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by KungPOW I don't think the NX has an optical view finder. EVF, but sill better than no VF at all IMO

11-22-2009, 05:05 PM	#5
alexramos Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA, Florida Posts: 42 Original Poster	Uh, my mistake, I wanted to say EVF... thibs "EVF, but sill better than no VF at all IMO" I agree...

11-25-2009, 08:48 AM	#6
er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801	Originally posted by alexramos Uh, my mistake, I wanted to say EVF... thibs "EVF, but sill better than no VF at all IMO" I agree... Except for those people who want maximum compactness, which is the main target market of the GF1... in which case the NX is still too big because it's got the viewfinder hump. Also, anyone check how much taller the actual body (aside from the hump) is? I've gotten the impression that there's a difference there. In form factor and size, the NX10 we've seen so far is really closer to the G1/GH1.

11-25-2009, 03:19 PM	#7
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by er1kksen Except for those people who want maximum compactness, which is the main target market of the GF1... in which case the NX is still too big because it's got the viewfinder hump. Also, anyone check how much taller the actual body (aside from the hump) is? I've gotten the impression that there's a difference there. In form factor and size, the NX10 we've seen so far is really closer to the G1/GH1. As long as it's the right size. Too teeny can be more trouble than it's worth, anyway. If I were in the market for this sort of thing, I'd only end up with one of those shoemount optical finders on there all the time, anyway. I think it'd good that different makers are doing different things.

11-25-2009, 08:59 PM	#10
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	Originally posted by bogiesbad The NX10 looks to have a larger grip area than the GH1. I could not shoot for very long with my fingertips or contacted hand holding the body. You can hold the camera like this:

11-26-2009, 08:45 PM	#11
bogiesbad Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Lower AL Photos: Albums Posts: 355	Frank I tend to shoot my K10 "one-handed" and like the larger grip which allows me to hold the camera with the lower three fingers leaving the thumb and index to spin those dials. I do focus, zoom, and support with my left hand but I carry the camera with my right and usually don't use a neck strap. I am sure the GH1 is perfect for many but not for me

11-26-2009, 11:09 PM	#12
er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady As long as it's the right size. Too teeny can be more trouble than it's worth, anyway. If I were in the market for this sort of thing, I'd only end up with one of those shoemount optical finders on there all the time, anyway. I think it'd good that different makers are doing different things. Well, that's what I mean though. For some of us, the GF1/E-P1 are the "right" size because they can slip into a pocket with a pancake lens. Add the EVF hump, and you can't do that. Even if the other dimensions are similar, that hump adds a lot as far as the actual practical size of the thing.

11-29-2009, 05:13 AM	#13
artemapei Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Moscow-Guangzhou Posts: 71	Originally posted by er1kksen Well, that's what I mean though. For some of us, the GF1/E-P1 are the "right" size because they can slip into a pocket with a pancake lens. Add the EVF hump, and you can't do that. Even if the other dimensions are similar, that hump adds a lot as far as the actual practical size of the thing. I do not think NX's grip will be thicker than a pancacke attached. so pocketwise - almost the same (if samsung's pancacke will be of the same size with 4\3's one)

11-29-2009, 11:30 AM	#14
er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801	Originally posted by artemapei I do not think NX's grip will be thicker than a pancacke attached. so pocketwise - almost the same (if samsung's pancacke will be of the same size with 4\3's one) Not the grip. The viewfinder hump. It needs to be pretty flat on top to be actually pocketable. The grip is no big deal.

12-01-2009, 11:37 AM	#15
Art Vandelay II Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 886	The problem with the NX10 is not the size, but the design. It just looks so flimsy and utilitarian. I'm sure it's fine to use, but from a design stand point I don't know too many people that would choose it over the E-P1 or even the G-F1. Seeing the name Samsung stuck on the prism hump doesn't help either. I think of TV's when I hear that name, not Cameras (Sony has the same issue, should have kept the Minolta name). They should do like Panasonic does and brand their cameras with a term similar to Lumix.

NX10, no so big how you think...

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