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MrMuz · 11-26-2009, 01:42 PM

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I hope this hasn't already been posted

ecoronin · 11-26-2009, 03:55 PM

wow it beat the 7D I wonder what factors they considered

fwbigd · 11-26-2009, 04:40 PM

Funny thing about opinions everyone has one…according to Popular Photography the K-7 was a total dog. Bottom line is the only opinion that counts is yours…

Itai · 11-26-2009, 08:20 PM

Yes, everybody has opinions. I've been reviewing cameras for 5 years on Neocamera and I've put my opinions there too. Not only that, I also have opinions on every other opinion I read

Reviewers have different ways of seeing a camera and different benchmarks too. Some magazines and websites for example are too careful and every review reads like a list of specs followed by "this is a really good camera". I once read an article stating that people did not like negative reviews and so the publisher decided to only post positive ones. Guess some people "can't handle the truth".

Every November I go through all the cameras available and award the best ones. Sometimes I can't decide because there is too much deviation, like this year between the K-7 and Nikon D300s. They're both really good cameras but if I would to sports, I'd prefer the Nikon because of its continuous-AF perfomance but for landscape the K-7 delivers richer details. Sure both could do either but the point is about being "best-in-class". The 7D would have taken a spot there if they didn't have problems with exposure and color-accuracy.

A great way to value an opinion is to find a common interest between you and the one expressing his opinion. If you do studio work for example, I suggest finding the opinion of someone else who also does.

- Itai
Neoluminance

rawr · 11-27-2009, 12:52 AM

It's a good choice, IMHO. From a design perspective alone it's a classic body, and from an engineering perspective they have crammed an awful lot of useful photographic capabilities into a easy to use, solid and compact body.

And unlike say the D300s (predecessor = D300), the K-7's body and features represent more than just an incremental jump in design or features, it's a whole new family of camera, so it deserves recognition for that.

Jonson PL · 11-27-2009, 08:02 AM

Thanks for the info.

I like how it states :
"In terms of overall performance, it's a match for any of its rivals, and its image quality is second to none. Add to the equation clever features such as an electronic spirit level, automatic tilt correction and aperture/shutter priority shooting and you have an instant classic that will appeal to professionals and keen amateurs alike."

philbaum · 11-27-2009, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by rawr

It's a good choice, IMHO. From a design perspective alone it's a classic body, and from an engineering perspective they have crammed an awful lot of useful photographic capabilities into a easy to use, solid and compact body.

And unlike say the D300s (predecessor = D300), the K-7's body and features represent more than just an incremental jump in design or features, it's a whole new family of camera, so it deserves recognition for that.

Two cool things about that:

Once developed, new features are there to apply to other models at less cost because the engineering is already done,

2. you don't have Canon limiting the features like 50D has some and 7D has even more. Pentax has only the 1 top level APS camera, and whatever they've developed, you get it.

jogiba · 11-27-2009, 05:35 PM

Another one,the Pentax K7, first place by a landslide !
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benjikan · 11-28-2009, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by fwbigd

Funny thing about opinions everyone has one…according to Popular Photography the K-7 was a total dog. Bottom line is the only opinion that counts is yours…

Why does the fact that Pop Photo considered the K7 a dog not surprising to me?

I don't consider Pop Photo a photo magazine really. It is more like a huge "Advertorial" source for those companies with the biggest wallets...

Yonnie · 11-30-2009, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by benjikan

Why does the fact that Pop Photo considered the K7 a dog not surprising to me?

I don't consider Pop Photo a photo magazine really. It is more like a huge "Advertorial" source for those companies with the biggest wallets...

If I had a pet bird, I wouldn't use old copies of that rag to line its cage.

Art Vandelay II · 11-30-2009, 09:05 PM

I've told myself I was going to hold out until Pentax makes a FF camera, but the more I read about the K-7 the more tempted I get. It certainly doesn't help that you can get it with the WR kit lens for only $1015 now. That is a heck of a deal.

thibs · 12-01-2009, 04:23 AM

Originally posted by Art Vandelay II

I've told myself I was going to hold out until Pentax makes a FF camera, but the more I read about the K-7 the more tempted I get. It certainly doesn't help that you can get it with the WR kit lens for only $1015 now. That is a heck of a deal.

It is, Art. I myself thought the K10 was good enough for me for a while... K-7 is way way better. I wouldn't want a K10 anymore.

My wife's K100 is difficult enough to use for me

Soooo basic

Art Vandelay II · 12-01-2009, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by thibs

It is, Art. I myself thought the K10 was good enough for me for a while... K-7 is way way better. I wouldn't want a K10 anymore.

My wife's K100 is difficult enough to use for me

Soooo basic

Oh I got rid of the K10D after only 6 months. I couldn't stand the vertical banding mine produced at ISO800 & 1600. Oddly enough I switched to a D200, which used the same sensor and it had none of those problems. I never feel in love with the D200 though and sold it...now I'm just shooting film and holding out for a FF Pentax, but I have to admit the K-7 is mighty tempting. Luckily the current rebate doesn't end until Jan 15th, so I have time to think about. I should go ahead and buy it though...I know the second I give in and buy another Pentax APS-C camera will be the second they come out with a sub $2000 FF camera.

GerryL · 12-02-2009, 11:30 AM

..but if you browse at "Trusted Reviews" for DSLR's with a rating of higher than "8" of "any brand", then the site would pull out all DSLR's with rating from "10/10" downwards..and you will see that a lot of Canon and Nikons got the 10/10 rating (even the one that K-7 beat at overall) with the K-7 only garnering "9/10".
Heck the GX-20 even beats the K-7 with a rating of "10/10"..how funny how its kind of an confusing how they go about things.

**Rondec** · 12-02-2009, 07:38 PM

I think there are a lot of things that go into a number score. Chronology is a big deal too. The Canon 20D was a great camera when it was first released, but how would it rank if it was released today? I think the K7 hit a sweet spot. Enough features to set it apart, but not the amazing (almost full frame) price of the 7D.

11-26-2009, 01:42 PM	#1
MrMuz Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 31	Pentax K-7 first place at Trustedreview.com TrustedReviews Awards 2009 - TrustedReviews - TrustedReviews I hope this hasn't already been posted

11-26-2009, 08:20 PM	#4
Itai Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Montreal Photos: Gallery Posts: 209	Opinions Indeed Yes, everybody has opinions. I've been reviewing cameras for 5 years on Neocamera and I've put my opinions there too. Not only that, I also have opinions on every other opinion I read Reviewers have different ways of seeing a camera and different benchmarks too. Some magazines and websites for example are too careful and every review reads like a list of specs followed by "this is a really good camera". I once read an article stating that people did not like negative reviews and so the publisher decided to only post positive ones. Guess some people "can't handle the truth". Every November I go through all the cameras available and award the best ones. Sometimes I can't decide because there is too much deviation, like this year between the K-7 and Nikon D300s. They're both really good cameras but if I would to sports, I'd prefer the Nikon because of its continuous-AF perfomance but for landscape the K-7 delivers richer details. Sure both could do either but the point is about being "best-in-class". The 7D would have taken a spot there if they didn't have problems with exposure and color-accuracy. A great way to value an opinion is to find a common interest between you and the one expressing his opinion. If you do studio work for example, I suggest finding the opinion of someone else who also does. - Itai Neoluminance

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11-26-2009, 03:55 PM	#2
ecoronin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 127	wow it beat the 7D I wonder what factors they considered

11-26-2009, 04:40 PM	#3
fwbigd Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fort Worth TX Posts: 339	Funny thing about opinions everyone has one…according to Popular Photography the K-7 was a total dog. Bottom line is the only opinion that counts is yours…

11-27-2009, 12:52 AM	#5
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	It's a good choice, IMHO. From a design perspective alone it's a classic body, and from an engineering perspective they have crammed an awful lot of useful photographic capabilities into a easy to use, solid and compact body. And unlike say the D300s (predecessor = D300), the K-7's body and features represent more than just an incremental jump in design or features, it's a whole new family of camera, so it deserves recognition for that.

11-27-2009, 08:02 AM	#6
Jonson PL Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Copenhagen Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,842	Thanks for the info. I like how it states : "In terms of overall performance, it's a match for any of its rivals, and its image quality is second to none. Add to the equation clever features such as an electronic spirit level, automatic tilt correction and aperture/shutter priority shooting and you have an instant classic that will appeal to professionals and keen amateurs alike."

11-27-2009, 08:49 AM	#7
philbaum Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Port Townsend, Washington State, USA Posts: 3,659	Originally posted by rawr It's a good choice, IMHO. From a design perspective alone it's a classic body, and from an engineering perspective they have crammed an awful lot of useful photographic capabilities into a easy to use, solid and compact body. And unlike say the D300s (predecessor = D300), the K-7's body and features represent more than just an incremental jump in design or features, it's a whole new family of camera, so it deserves recognition for that. Two cool things about that: Once developed, new features are there to apply to other models at less cost because the engineering is already done, 2. you don't have Canon limiting the features like 50D has some and 7D has even more. Pentax has only the 1 top level APS camera, and whatever they've developed, you get it.

11-27-2009, 05:35 PM	#8
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Another one,the Pentax K7, first place by a landslide ! Adorama Learning Center Readers' Choice Camera 2009 Is... from Adorama Learning Center

11-28-2009, 03:18 AM	#9
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	Originally posted by fwbigd Funny thing about opinions everyone has one…according to Popular Photography the K-7 was a total dog. Bottom line is the only opinion that counts is yours… Why does the fact that Pop Photo considered the K7 a dog not surprising to me? I don't consider Pop Photo a photo magazine really. It is more like a huge "Advertorial" source for those companies with the biggest wallets...

11-30-2009, 08:19 PM	#10
Yonnie Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 110	Originally posted by benjikan Why does the fact that Pop Photo considered the K7 a dog not surprising to me? I don't consider Pop Photo a photo magazine really. It is more like a huge "Advertorial" source for those companies with the biggest wallets... If I had a pet bird, I wouldn't use old copies of that rag to line its cage.

11-30-2009, 09:05 PM	#11
Art Vandelay II Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 886	I've told myself I was going to hold out until Pentax makes a FF camera, but the more I read about the K-7 the more tempted I get. It certainly doesn't help that you can get it with the WR kit lens for only $1015 now. That is a heck of a deal.

12-01-2009, 04:23 AM	#12
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Art Vandelay II I've told myself I was going to hold out until Pentax makes a FF camera, but the more I read about the K-7 the more tempted I get. It certainly doesn't help that you can get it with the WR kit lens for only $1015 now. That is a heck of a deal. It is, Art. I myself thought the K10 was good enough for me for a while... K-7 is way way better. I wouldn't want a K10 anymore. My wife's K100 is difficult enough to use for me Soooo basic

12-01-2009, 07:04 AM	#13
Art Vandelay II Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 886	Originally posted by thibs It is, Art. I myself thought the K10 was good enough for me for a while... K-7 is way way better. I wouldn't want a K10 anymore. My wife's K100 is difficult enough to use for me Soooo basic Oh I got rid of the K10D after only 6 months. I couldn't stand the vertical banding mine produced at ISO800 & 1600. Oddly enough I switched to a D200, which used the same sensor and it had none of those problems. I never feel in love with the D200 though and sold it...now I'm just shooting film and holding out for a FF Pentax, but I have to admit the K-7 is mighty tempting. Luckily the current rebate doesn't end until Jan 15th, so I have time to think about. I should go ahead and buy it though...I know the second I give in and buy another Pentax APS-C camera will be the second they come out with a sub $2000 FF camera.

12-02-2009, 11:30 AM	#14
GerryL Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CA Posts: 2,731	..but if you browse at "Trusted Reviews" for DSLR's with a rating of higher than "8" of "any brand", then the site would pull out all DSLR's with rating from "10/10" downwards..and you will see that a lot of Canon and Nikons got the 10/10 rating (even the one that K-7 beat at overall) with the K-7 only garnering "9/10". Heck the GX-20 even beats the K-7 with a rating of "10/10"..how funny how its kind of an confusing how they go about things.

12-02-2009, 07:38 PM	#15
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,666	I think there are a lot of things that go into a number score. Chronology is a big deal too. The Canon 20D was a great camera when it was first released, but how would it rank if it was released today? I think the K7 hit a sweet spot. Enough features to set it apart, but not the amazing (almost full frame) price of the 7D.

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