DA* 400mm F4 coming!

ytterbium · 12-12-2009, 11:22 AM

Why not?

If so many are arguing and doubting that the image is shopped, especially being photographers. Just for the sake of fun. There are enough people with too much time out there.

Same as many of those speculating in here. It should be obvious that it is fake, they are just having fun, or do you really believe they are having serious analytical discussion?

pcarfan · 12-12-2009, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by mattdm

Doesn't it look like a fake backdrop, with fake sun rays photoshopped in over the model's face?

It looks to me like there is definite post-processing like you mention, especially with the light rays and the exposure along the camera and in front of his body. The smudges can easily be from the masking done to change the light. I don't think the lens itself is cloned in, as the light in the front of the lens is way too real to be a clone, and if it is a clone, why clone in an obvious DA300?

ryan s · 12-12-2009, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by emr

In this case I can agree that it's definitely photoshopped. But I think it doesn't exclude the possibility that it's a poor ps by Pentax and that the product is for real. Remains to be seen.

The K-7 and DA*300 are already real

And when has Pentax ever released a poorly PS'd pic...of anything...current or future?

Originally posted by pcarfan

So, the consensus is that this guy went to the extreme to photoshop in a K-7 with the DA300 attached to it, Why?

Originally posted by ytterbium

Why not?

If so many are arguing and doubting that the image is shopped, especially being photographers. Just for the sake of fun. There are enough people with too much time out there.

Same as many of those speculating in here. It should be obvious that it is fake, they are just having fun, or do you really believe they are having serious analytical discussion?

Originally posted by pcarfan

It looks to me like there is definite post-processing like you mention, especially with the light rays and the exposure along the camera and in front of his body. The smudges can easily be from the masking done to change the light. I don't think the lens itself is cloned in, as the light in the front of the lens is way too real to be a clone, and if it is a clone, why clone in an obvious DA300?

Seems like someone wanted to start a rumor...for some reason...while not going through the effort to fake, say, the DFA 55 or whatever it was for the 645D.

Shaloot! · 12-14-2009, 01:50 PM

uh-oh, why is Pentax using Tiger Woods in this ad??? :P

bogiesbad · 12-14-2009, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by Shaloot!

uh-oh, why is Pentax using Tiger Woods in this ad??? :P

Tiger chose Pentax for the anonymity. He could use some.

**Eaglerapids** · 12-14-2009, 10:05 PM

Alls I know is that whatever it's supposed to be isn't for sale at B&H so it might as well be the DA* 1.4X weather sealed teleconverter for the good it's doing any of us. Jeesus now we have to wait through 2 or 3 years of this BS rumor?

WerTicus · 12-14-2009, 10:28 PM

I think what we have here is a pentaxian's attempt at starting a rumor which might gain momentum and lead to Pentax building one such lens

**Rondec** · 12-15-2009, 04:49 AM

Well, the only lens remaining on the len map is the super telephoto. Other than that, no one knows what Pentax's plans are. The question is when they will bring that out and how long it will be, but your guess is as good as mine.

Mark D · 12-15-2009, 08:02 AM

Well I'm hoping the super telephoto will be a 600! ( or more!)
400 isn't exactly SUPER telephoto is it?

ogl · 12-15-2009, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by Mark D

Well I'm hoping the super telephoto will be a 600! ( or more!)
400 isn't exactly SUPER telephoto is it?

All lenses from 300 and longer - super telephoto.

Pentax Extreme Telephoto Prime Lenses

m8o · 12-15-2009, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by Mark D

Well I'm hoping the super telephoto will be a 600! ( or more!) 400 isn't exactly SUPER telephoto is it?

On a 1.5x crop camera it can be argued that it is, as it gives you the same fov frame as 600mm. 400/4 is "nice", should be basically in-line w/a 300/2.8 +1.4x TC or 600/5.6 dimensionally.

...Just way way too late for me. Now IF it is WR (w/o being a '*' lens) and has better AF by virtue of being compatible with the new focusing technology in the new bodies (what is that, contrast detect?) I may consider selling my Sigma 300/2.8 to help fund a move over to it... but that's probably three years down the road, if this even ever materializes.

ogl · 12-15-2009, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by m8o

...Just way way too late for me. Now IF it is WR (w/o being a '*' lens) and has better AF by virtue of being compatible with the new focusing technology in the new bodies (what is that, contrast detect?) I may consider selling my Sigma 300/2.8 to help fund a move over to it... but that's probably three years down the road, if this even ever materializes.

High-end lenses will be DA*.

OrenMc · 12-17-2009, 04:04 AM

I personally would like to see a 300/2.8.
I think the Sigma is going to be my next purchase but I am going to have to sell my 100-300 to help fund it.
I am thinking with a 300/2.8 I will also have a 420/4 and 600/5.6.
I will probably never be able to afford a 600/4 and Pentax knows that is the same with most folks. So a release of a 400/4 or 5.6 is more realistic.

Anyway, any release of a new lens/camera by Pentax only makes me more hopeful of our future.

ghelary · 12-17-2009, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by OrenMc

I personally would like to see a 300/2.8.
I think the Sigma is going to be my next purchase but I am going to have to sell my 100-300 to help fund it.
I am thinking with a 300/2.8 I will also have a 420/4 and 600/5.6.
I will probably never be able to afford a 600/4 and Pentax knows that is the same with most folks. So a release of a 400/4 or 5.6 is more realistic.

Anyway, any release of a new lens/camera by Pentax only makes me more hopeful of our future.

Announced price for the future Nikkor AF-S 300 mm f/2,8G ED VR II : 6659 euros...

Even if Pentax puts a lower price on an inhouse 300/2.8 (because of no VR), I would not think it would be priced below 5000 euros. That makes quite a budget for 1 stop improvement as compared to the existing 300/4. (at this focal length vigneting / FF compatibility is much less an issue than on the wide end.)

I'd rather see 1.4x and 2x TC, Tilt-shift lenses, or 150-300/4 zoom, but my guess is that Pentax is preparing the new 645D lens lineup (3 or 4 primes + zooms) and have started to design their FF lens lineup to release somewhere in 2011 or after.

Sigma is already big on super-telephoto range, even if Pentax can price significantly higher, their customer base is so much smaller than C&N that it doesn't make any sense. Especially if you think that the customer base for those lenses are mostly sport magazines (that buys photo gears from Canon and Nikon for professional support and homogenieity of their inventory)

I agree that "dream" lenses are important for marketing, but IMHO Pentax has other means to reach this goal like releasing ultra-luminous primes (55/1.2, 35/1.4, 20/1.4, 85/1.2) or providing tilt shift lenses. Nobody is in the head of Pentax and they have shown recently to say little and stick to what they say.

Regards,
Guillaume

netuser · 12-17-2009, 04:48 AM

Originally posted by OrenMc

I personally would like to see a 300/2.8.
......

How much is sigma 300/2.8 in the US ? and Pentax FA 300/2.8 ?

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12-12-2009, 11:22 AM	#61
ytterbium Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,076	Why not? If so many are arguing and doubting that the image is shopped, especially being photographers. Just for the sake of fun. There are enough people with too much time out there. Same as many of those speculating in here. It should be obvious that it is fake, they are just having fun, or do you really believe they are having serious analytical discussion?

12-12-2009, 11:23 AM	#62
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978	Originally posted by mattdm Doesn't it look like a fake backdrop, with fake sun rays photoshopped in over the model's face? It looks to me like there is definite post-processing like you mention, especially with the light rays and the exposure along the camera and in front of his body. The smudges can easily be from the masking done to change the light. I don't think the lens itself is cloned in, as the light in the front of the lens is way too real to be a clone, and if it is a clone, why clone in an obvious DA300?

12-12-2009, 11:55 AM	#63
ryan s Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madison, WI Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,383	Originally posted by emr In this case I can agree that it's definitely photoshopped. But I think it doesn't exclude the possibility that it's a poor ps by Pentax and that the product is for real. Remains to be seen. The K-7 and DA*300 are already real And when has Pentax ever released a poorly PS'd pic...of anything...current or future? Originally posted by pcarfan So, the consensus is that this guy went to the extreme to photoshop in a K-7 with the DA300 attached to it, Why? Originally posted by ytterbium Why not? If so many are arguing and doubting that the image is shopped, especially being photographers. Just for the sake of fun. There are enough people with too much time out there. Same as many of those speculating in here. It should be obvious that it is fake, they are just having fun, or do you really believe they are having serious analytical discussion? Originally posted by pcarfan It looks to me like there is definite post-processing like you mention, especially with the light rays and the exposure along the camera and in front of his body. The smudges can easily be from the masking done to change the light. I don't think the lens itself is cloned in, as the light in the front of the lens is way too real to be a clone, and if it is a clone, why clone in an obvious DA300? Seems like someone wanted to start a rumor...for some reason...while not going through the effort to fake, say, the DFA 55 or whatever it was for the 645D.

12-14-2009, 01:50 PM	#64
Shaloot! Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 67	uh-oh, why is Pentax using Tiger Woods in this ad??? :P

12-14-2009, 09:00 PM	#65
bogiesbad Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Lower AL Photos: Albums Posts: 355	Originally posted by Shaloot! uh-oh, why is Pentax using Tiger Woods in this ad??? :P Tiger chose Pentax for the anonymity. He could use some.

12-14-2009, 10:05 PM	#66
Eaglerapids Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Idaho,USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,619	Alls I know is that whatever it's supposed to be isn't for sale at B&H so it might as well be the DA* 1.4X weather sealed teleconverter for the good it's doing any of us. Jeesus now we have to wait through 2 or 3 years of this BS rumor?

12-14-2009, 10:28 PM	#67
WerTicus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Perth Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,514	I think what we have here is a pentaxian's attempt at starting a rumor which might gain momentum and lead to Pentax building one such lens

12-15-2009, 04:49 AM	#68
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,662	Well, the only lens remaining on the len map is the super telephoto. Other than that, no one knows what Pentax's plans are. The question is when they will bring that out and how long it will be, but your guess is as good as mine.

12-15-2009, 08:02 AM	#69
Mark D Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hertfordshire UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 44	Well I'm hoping the super telephoto will be a 600! ( or more!) 400 isn't exactly SUPER telephoto is it?

12-15-2009, 08:15 AM	#70
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Mark D Well I'm hoping the super telephoto will be a 600! ( or more!) 400 isn't exactly SUPER telephoto is it? All lenses from 300 and longer - super telephoto. Pentax Extreme Telephoto Prime Lenses

12-15-2009, 08:17 AM	#71
m8o Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 40°-55'-44" N / 73°-24'-07" W [on LI] Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,092	Originally posted by Mark D Well I'm hoping the super telephoto will be a 600! ( or more!) 400 isn't exactly SUPER telephoto is it? On a 1.5x crop camera it can be argued that it is, as it gives you the same fov frame as 600mm. 400/4 is "nice", should be basically in-line w/a 300/2.8 +1.4x TC or 600/5.6 dimensionally. ...Just way way too late for me. Now IF it is WR (w/o being a '*' lens) and has better AF by virtue of being compatible with the new focusing technology in the new bodies (what is that, contrast detect?) I may consider selling my Sigma 300/2.8 to help fund a move over to it... but that's probably three years down the road, if this even ever materializes.

12-15-2009, 09:41 AM	#72
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by m8o ...Just way way too late for me. Now IF it is WR (w/o being a '' lens) and has better AF by virtue of being compatible with the new focusing technology in the new bodies (what is that, contrast detect?) I may consider selling my Sigma 300/2.8 to help fund a move over to it... but that's probably three years down the road, if this even ever materializes. High-end lenses will be DA.

12-17-2009, 04:04 AM	#73
OrenMc Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,901	I personally would like to see a 300/2.8. I think the Sigma is going to be my next purchase but I am going to have to sell my 100-300 to help fund it. I am thinking with a 300/2.8 I will also have a 420/4 and 600/5.6. I will probably never be able to afford a 600/4 and Pentax knows that is the same with most folks. So a release of a 400/4 or 5.6 is more realistic. Anyway, any release of a new lens/camera by Pentax only makes me more hopeful of our future.

12-17-2009, 04:24 AM	#74
ghelary Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 613	Originally posted by OrenMc I personally would like to see a 300/2.8. I think the Sigma is going to be my next purchase but I am going to have to sell my 100-300 to help fund it. I am thinking with a 300/2.8 I will also have a 420/4 and 600/5.6. I will probably never be able to afford a 600/4 and Pentax knows that is the same with most folks. So a release of a 400/4 or 5.6 is more realistic. Anyway, any release of a new lens/camera by Pentax only makes me more hopeful of our future. Announced price for the future Nikkor AF-S 300 mm f/2,8G ED VR II : 6659 euros... Even if Pentax puts a lower price on an inhouse 300/2.8 (because of no VR), I would not think it would be priced below 5000 euros. That makes quite a budget for 1 stop improvement as compared to the existing 300/4. (at this focal length vigneting / FF compatibility is much less an issue than on the wide end.) I'd rather see 1.4x and 2x TC, Tilt-shift lenses, or 150-300/4 zoom, but my guess is that Pentax is preparing the new 645D lens lineup (3 or 4 primes + zooms) and have started to design their FF lens lineup to release somewhere in 2011 or after. Sigma is already big on super-telephoto range, even if Pentax can price significantly higher, their customer base is so much smaller than C&N that it doesn't make any sense. Especially if you think that the customer base for those lenses are mostly sport magazines (that buys photo gears from Canon and Nikon for professional support and homogenieity of their inventory) I agree that "dream" lenses are important for marketing, but IMHO Pentax has other means to reach this goal like releasing ultra-luminous primes (55/1.2, 35/1.4, 20/1.4, 85/1.2) or providing tilt shift lenses. Nobody is in the head of Pentax and they have shown recently to say little and stick to what they say. Regards, Guillaume

12-17-2009, 04:48 AM	#75
netuser Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Azores Islands, Portugal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,236	Originally posted by OrenMc I personally would like to see a 300/2.8. ...... How much is sigma 300/2.8 in the US ? and Pentax FA 300/2.8 ?