Pentax Should Build an EVIL Camera

Photomy · 01-28-2010, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

If the flange to focal plane distance is shortened to make a more compact body, the present lens line will not work.
It's not a question of changing the mount, its the mount registration distance.

I wonder how many people wanting a more compact Pentax EV camera realize that they will likely loose the ability to use their present lenses.

It would be very easy to offer a one inch or so adapter that would provide all of the functionality of current Pentax lenses EXCEPT screw drive AF. So, if you have lens-based AF lens (SDM, HSM, etc.), then no problem for full functionality, otherwise manual focus only but WITH all other lens features, info., etc. This is what Samsung is working on right now to offer with their NX camera.

MRRiley · 01-28-2010, 11:17 AM

I'd rather them build a NICE camera but I can't think of a phrase to go with the letters...

Wheatfield · 01-28-2010, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by MRRiley

I'd rather them build a NICE camera but I can't think of a phrase to go with the letters...

I'd go for a Generally Over-performing Optical Device camera.

Kunzite · 01-28-2010, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by Photomy

So, if you have lens-based AF lens (SDM, HSM, etc.), then no problem for full functionality, otherwise manual focus only but WITH all other lens features, info., etc. This is what Samsung is working on right now to offer with their NX camera.

I'm not so sure the NX will support anything but exposure metering and manual focus with K-mount lenses, e.g. the same level of support as the micro4/3.

juu · 02-04-2010, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by juu

Japanese leaderboard December 2009 (total 80.2%):
500D 23.4
D5000 13.4
K-x 7.9
GF1 7.4
D90 7.3
7D 5.7
D3000 5.1
450D 3.7
E-P2 3.5
G1 2.8

EVILs have 13.7% in the top 10 with GH1 and E-P1 adding more.

Update from January 2010 (Japanese market only, total 80.1%):
500D 17.4
D5000 12.3
D90 10.6
GF1 8.0
K-x 7.9
450D 7.7
G1 5.2
D3000 4.6
7D 4.0
K-7 2.4

EVILs/Panasonic have 13.2% in the top 10 with GH1 and (in the case of EVILs) E-P1/E-P2 adding more. Perhaps some K-m sales still happening.

Pentax has 10.3% as the K-7 made the top 10.

gazonk · 02-04-2010, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by juu

Pentax has 10.3% as the K-7 made the top 10.

That's pretty good! I wonder when they last time had more than 10% of their home market?

One thing which strikes me is Sony's absence from the top 10. Regarding Olympus, I would guess that the E-P1 is very close to the top 10 (but it's kind of sad that it sells so much more than the well-designed E-620...).

Biro · 02-04-2010, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by gazonk

That's pretty good! I wonder when they last time had more than 10% of their home market?

One thing which strikes me is Sony's absence from the top 10. Regarding Olympus, I would guess that the E-P1 is very close to the top 10 (but it's kind of sad that it sells so much more than the well-designed E-620...).

That's absolutely true. The E-620 has been kind of lost in the all the micro four-thirds excitement. It's actually a very good camera and pretty compact in its own rite.

Blue · 02-07-2010, 11:50 AM

I would rather actually see what I'm seeing than what the electronics thinks its seeing.

thibs · 02-08-2010, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

One thing which strikes me is Sony's absence from the top 10.

Mmm Sony on the way out?

01-28-2010, 10:55 AM	#301
Photomy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 174	Very to easy to offer adapter. Originally posted by Wheatfield If the flange to focal plane distance is shortened to make a more compact body, the present lens line will not work. It's not a question of changing the mount, its the mount registration distance. I wonder how many people wanting a more compact Pentax EV camera realize that they will likely loose the ability to use their present lenses. It would be very easy to offer a one inch or so adapter that would provide all of the functionality of current Pentax lenses EXCEPT screw drive AF. So, if you have lens-based AF lens (SDM, HSM, etc.), then no problem for full functionality, otherwise manual focus only but WITH all other lens features, info., etc. This is what Samsung is working on right now to offer with their NX camera.

02-04-2010, 05:09 AM	#305
juu Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 680	Originally posted by juu Japanese leaderboard December 2009 (total 80.2%): 500D 23.4 D5000 13.4 K-x 7.9 GF1 7.4 D90 7.3 7D 5.7 D3000 5.1 450D 3.7 E-P2 3.5 G1 2.8 EVILs have 13.7% in the top 10 with GH1 and E-P1 adding more. Update from January 2010 (Japanese market only, total 80.1%): 500D 17.4 D5000 12.3 D90 10.6 GF1 8.0 K-x 7.9 450D 7.7 G1 5.2 D3000 4.6 7D 4.0 K-7 2.4 EVILs/Panasonic have 13.2% in the top 10 with GH1 and (in the case of EVILs) E-P1/E-P2 adding more. Perhaps some K-m sales still happening. Pentax has 10.3% as the K-7 made the top 10. Last edited by juu; 02-04-2010 at 05:19 AM.

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MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275	I'd rather them build a NICE camera but I can't think of a phrase to go with the letters...

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Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by MRRiley I'd rather them build a NICE camera but I can't think of a phrase to go with the letters... I'd go for a Generally Over-performing Optical Device camera.

01-28-2010, 04:33 PM	#304
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Photomy So, if you have lens-based AF lens (SDM, HSM, etc.), then no problem for full functionality, otherwise manual focus only but WITH all other lens features, info., etc. This is what Samsung is working on right now to offer with their NX camera. I'm not so sure the NX will support anything but exposure metering and manual focus with K-mount lenses, e.g. the same level of support as the micro4/3.

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gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by juu Pentax has 10.3% as the K-7 made the top 10. That's pretty good! I wonder when they last time had more than 10% of their home market? One thing which strikes me is Sony's absence from the top 10. Regarding Olympus, I would guess that the E-P1 is very close to the top 10 (but it's kind of sad that it sells so much more than the well-designed E-620...).

02-04-2010, 04:14 PM	#307
Biro Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,200 Original Poster	Originally posted by gazonk That's pretty good! I wonder when they last time had more than 10% of their home market? One thing which strikes me is Sony's absence from the top 10. Regarding Olympus, I would guess that the E-P1 is very close to the top 10 (but it's kind of sad that it sells so much more than the well-designed E-620...). That's absolutely true. The E-620 has been kind of lost in the all the micro four-thirds excitement. It's actually a very good camera and pretty compact in its own rite.

02-07-2010, 11:50 AM	#308
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	I would rather actually see what I'm seeing than what the electronics thinks its seeing.

02-08-2010, 01:10 AM	#309
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by gazonk One thing which strikes me is Sony's absence from the top 10. Mmm Sony on the way out?