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ghelary · 01-14-2010, 03:22 AM

The Sony lens lineup is filled with valuable lenses and a photographer don't need too much lenses. If there is a lens in the lineup that fits your needs then everything is ok.

A photographer doesn't need 3 sort of 50mm in his bag.

Plus you can still put old Minolta glass and M42 via adapter.

I'm far from being a Sony fan (I think their APSC lineup is pure crap) but I were to go FF, I would go with them.

@ Benjikan,

Strangely your camera favorite list is ordered by pixel count

Wouldn't you like more pixel than anything else in the next Pentax camera ?

Guillaume

Fogel70 · 01-14-2010, 05:23 AM

I am surprised that Sony A550 is put in the high end APS-C category.
In my opinion it is an entry level DSLR as it lacks so many features a high end DSLR should have.

Samsungian · 01-14-2010, 06:59 AM

No m4/3 made your list?

m4/3 , Evil, ILC, or my current favorite: "MILF", Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Format

ALL THREE Pannys seem to be the HOT #1 CAMERA according to The Online Photographer(s) Best of 2009:

The Online Photographer: TOP Camera of the Year 2009

These m4/3 Panny's took 11% marketshare in Japan in 2009. All three Pannys sit in top 20 cameras sales in Japan for 2009.

Mirror or not they are selling across all brand and system owners.

Originally posted by benjikan

The Benjamin Kanarek Blog 2009 Camera Awards

Well, being that everyone is doing it, I thought I would put in my two cents worth.

Here are my choices for Camera's of the year and there standing…I won't go in to the why's unless you ask.

Just one point of clarification, I am no longer affiliated with any brand and thus there is no commercial bias.

My Favorite Full Frame DSLR's are the following:

1. Sony Alpha 850
2. Nikon D3X
3. Canon 5D Mkll
4. Canon 1Ds Mklll
5. Sony Alpha 900

My Favorite High End APS-C DSLR's are the following:

1. Canon 7D
2. Pentax K7
3. Nikon D300s
4. Sony Alpha 550

My Favorite Entry Level DSLR's are the following:

1. Pentax K-x
2. Canon 500D
3. Nikon D5000

There you have it. Would love to hear your feedback.

Ben

Benjamin Kanarek Blog “The Benjamin Kanarek Blog 2009 Camera Awards”

RBellavance · 01-14-2010, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by Samsungian

m4/3 , Evil, ILC, or my current favorite: "MILF", Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Format

Thom Hogan's "DILDOS" (Digital Interchangeable Lens Direct On Sensor

) gave me a good laugh. Ref.: Re: Thom is spot on..: Sony SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

ogl · 01-14-2010, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by ghelary

The Sony lens lineup is filled with valuable lenses and a photographer don't need too much lenses. If there is a lens in the lineup that fits your needs then everything is ok.

SONY lenses prices are the highest in the world. I mean BIG 5.

arpaagent · 01-14-2010, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by ghelary

The Sony lens lineup is filled with valuable lenses and a photographer don't need too much lenses. If there is a lens in the lineup that fits your needs then everything is ok.

A photographer doesn't need 3 sort of 50mm in his bag.

Heresy! You mean you are a member of pentax forums and you don't think that you need at least three different 50mm lenses in your bag. c'mon...like A50/1.2, F50/1.7, SMC Takumar 50/1.4...they are all different, right?

Blue · 01-14-2010, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by LeDave

Agree, Sony in their first two years of making DSLR's, they came up with great bodies. The a700 for example is a beautiful work of craftsmanship. But now I don't know where they have gone. They still boast good technology within the bodies, but when you pick one up today, it just doesn't feel the same. I picked up the a550 at a store and for a thousand bucks, this thing feels like a 600 dollar entry-level body, if only it boasted the same level of body quality as the a700 then I would've bought it over the K-7 along time ago. But it seems like Sony is taking a different route than I had anticipated from their "first" impressions.

But for the a850, it's a beautiful camera for a beautiful price. I picked this one up at a store also and it feels perfect. Too bad they can't do the same for their entry-levels.

Sony's dSLR factory wasn't made up of a bunch of noobs. They bought the defunct Minolta plant and hired a bunch of the engineers etc. That's how they got into the game so quickly. They came up with the Alpha name because Konica Minolta still makes office equipment (copiers etc.) so the name wasn't available but the tooling and people were.

Art Vandelay II · 01-14-2010, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by dylansalt

Also would be very interested in your reasoning of the 7D over 300s including IQ not just price.

If you haven't already you should test out the 7D. IQ aside that is the best cropped sensor camera on the market now I'm sad to say. Wonderful ergo's, excellent viewfinder, lightening fast AF and frame rate. If I were a sports or wild life photographer it would be an easy choice for me.

Fl_Gulfer · 01-14-2010, 09:20 AM

Sony is still the most repaired electronics in the world.

asdf · 01-14-2010, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by Art Vandelay II

If I were a sports or wild life photographer it would be an easy choice for me.

If the animal is running directly away from you or directly towards you that means one of two things, respectively: You're photographing its ******* or grabbing your gun.

benjikan · 01-14-2010, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by Blue

What did the 2008 Awards look like? Or did you snub Holga again?

Holga was up there with the rest of them, however when I tried to jam my Tuna Salad sandwich in to the film chamber, I couldn't get it closed so I decided to take a pass this time. But it does receive Honorable Mention....

benjikan · 01-14-2010, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by ghelary

The Sony lens lineup is filled with valuable lenses and a photographer don't need too much lenses. If there is a lens in the lineup that fits your needs then everything is ok.

A photographer doesn't need 3 sort of 50mm in his bag.

Plus you can still put old Minolta glass and M42 via adapter.

I'm far from being a Sony fan (I think their APSC lineup is pure crap) but I were to go FF, I would go with them.

@ Benjikan,

Strangely your camera favorite list is ordered by pixel count

Wouldn't you like more pixel than anything else in the next Pentax camera ?

Guillaume

Of course, the FF Pentax with 24.6 megapixels would be the ticket and for less than 2000 euros street price.

benjikan · 01-14-2010, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by bunegg

is price factor part of the conclusion on your choices?

YES...that was an important factor.

**robbiec** · 01-14-2010, 10:56 AM

Curious, did you rate the K7 over the 300s purely because of the sensor photosite count? i.e. 7D = 18mill (approx) K7 = 14mill (approx) and the 300s = 12mill (approx). Seemingly every article I read comparing the 3 have the Nikon beating the Pentax.
You must rate the Canons sensor at being pretty good at low ISO which is where you normally reside

I think!

benjikan · 01-15-2010, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by robbiec

Curious, did you rate the K7 over the 300s purely because of the sensor photosite count? i.e. 7D = 18mill (approx) K7 = 14mill (approx) and the 300s = 12mill (approx). Seemingly every article I read comparing the 3 have the Nikon beating the Pentax.
You must rate the Canons sensor at being pretty good at low ISO which is where you normally reside

I think!

The K7's resolving power and finesse at 100-200 iso is superior to that of the Nikon 300s. As simple as that IMHO.

01-14-2010, 06:59 AM	#18
Samsungian Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 1,337	No m4/3 ? No m4/3 made your list? m4/3 , Evil, ILC, or my current favorite: "MILF", Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Format ALL THREE Pannys seem to be the HOT #1 CAMERA according to The Online Photographer(s) Best of 2009: The Online Photographer: TOP Camera of the Year 2009 These m4/3 Panny's took 11% marketshare in Japan in 2009. All three Pannys sit in top 20 cameras sales in Japan for 2009. Mirror or not they are selling across all brand and system owners. Originally posted by benjikan The Benjamin Kanarek Blog 2009 Camera Awards Well, being that everyone is doing it, I thought I would put in my two cents worth. Here are my choices for Camera's of the year and there standing…I won't go in to the why's unless you ask. Just one point of clarification, I am no longer affiliated with any brand and thus there is no commercial bias. My Favorite Full Frame DSLR's are the following: 1. Sony Alpha 850 2. Nikon D3X 3. Canon 5D Mkll 4. Canon 1Ds Mklll 5. Sony Alpha 900 My Favorite High End APS-C DSLR's are the following: 1. Canon 7D 2. Pentax K7 3. Nikon D300s 4. Sony Alpha 550 My Favorite Entry Level DSLR's are the following: 1. Pentax K-x 2. Canon 500D 3. Nikon D5000 There you have it. Would love to hear your feedback. Ben Benjamin Kanarek Blog “The Benjamin Kanarek Blog 2009 Camera Awards”

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01-14-2010, 03:22 AM	#16
ghelary Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 613	The Sony lens lineup is filled with valuable lenses and a photographer don't need too much lenses. If there is a lens in the lineup that fits your needs then everything is ok. A photographer doesn't need 3 sort of 50mm in his bag. Plus you can still put old Minolta glass and M42 via adapter. I'm far from being a Sony fan (I think their APSC lineup is pure crap) but I were to go FF, I would go with them. @ Benjikan, Strangely your camera favorite list is ordered by pixel count Wouldn't you like more pixel than anything else in the next Pentax camera ? Guillaume

01-14-2010, 05:23 AM	#17
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	I am surprised that Sony A550 is put in the high end APS-C category. In my opinion it is an entry level DSLR as it lacks so many features a high end DSLR should have.

01-14-2010, 07:28 AM	#19
RBellavance Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Near Montréal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,716	Originally posted by Samsungian m4/3 , Evil, ILC, or my current favorite: "MILF", Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Format Thom Hogan's "DILDOS" (Digital Interchangeable Lens Direct On Sensor ) gave me a good laugh. Ref.: Re: Thom is spot on..: Sony SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

01-14-2010, 07:33 AM	#20
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by ghelary The Sony lens lineup is filled with valuable lenses and a photographer don't need too much lenses. If there is a lens in the lineup that fits your needs then everything is ok. SONY lenses prices are the highest in the world. I mean BIG 5.

01-14-2010, 07:40 AM	#21
arpaagent Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 803	Originally posted by ghelary The Sony lens lineup is filled with valuable lenses and a photographer don't need too much lenses. If there is a lens in the lineup that fits your needs then everything is ok. A photographer doesn't need 3 sort of 50mm in his bag. Heresy! You mean you are a member of pentax forums and you don't think that you need at least three different 50mm lenses in your bag. c'mon...like A50/1.2, F50/1.7, SMC Takumar 50/1.4...they are all different, right?

01-14-2010, 08:29 AM	#22
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by LeDave Agree, Sony in their first two years of making DSLR's, they came up with great bodies. The a700 for example is a beautiful work of craftsmanship. But now I don't know where they have gone. They still boast good technology within the bodies, but when you pick one up today, it just doesn't feel the same. I picked up the a550 at a store and for a thousand bucks, this thing feels like a 600 dollar entry-level body, if only it boasted the same level of body quality as the a700 then I would've bought it over the K-7 along time ago. But it seems like Sony is taking a different route than I had anticipated from their "first" impressions. But for the a850, it's a beautiful camera for a beautiful price. I picked this one up at a store also and it feels perfect. Too bad they can't do the same for their entry-levels. Sony's dSLR factory wasn't made up of a bunch of noobs. They bought the defunct Minolta plant and hired a bunch of the engineers etc. That's how they got into the game so quickly. They came up with the Alpha name because Konica Minolta still makes office equipment (copiers etc.) so the name wasn't available but the tooling and people were.

01-14-2010, 08:58 AM	#23
Art Vandelay II Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 886	Originally posted by dylansalt Also would be very interested in your reasoning of the 7D over 300s including IQ not just price. If you haven't already you should test out the 7D. IQ aside that is the best cropped sensor camera on the market now I'm sad to say. Wonderful ergo's, excellent viewfinder, lightening fast AF and frame rate. If I were a sports or wild life photographer it would be an easy choice for me.

01-14-2010, 09:20 AM	#24
Fl_Gulfer Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Gulfer Photos: Albums Posts: 3,054	Sony is still the most repaired electronics in the world.

01-14-2010, 09:22 AM	#25
asdf Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,252	Originally posted by Art Vandelay II If I were a sports or wild life photographer it would be an easy choice for me. If the animal is running directly away from you or directly towards you that means one of two things, respectively: You're photographing its ******* or grabbing your gun.

01-14-2010, 09:28 AM	#27
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	Originally posted by ghelary The Sony lens lineup is filled with valuable lenses and a photographer don't need too much lenses. If there is a lens in the lineup that fits your needs then everything is ok. A photographer doesn't need 3 sort of 50mm in his bag. Plus you can still put old Minolta glass and M42 via adapter. I'm far from being a Sony fan (I think their APSC lineup is pure crap) but I were to go FF, I would go with them. @ Benjikan, Strangely your camera favorite list is ordered by pixel count Wouldn't you like more pixel than anything else in the next Pentax camera ? Guillaume Of course, the FF Pentax with 24.6 megapixels would be the ticket and for less than 2000 euros street price.

01-14-2010, 09:29 AM	#28
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	Originally posted by bunegg is price factor part of the conclusion on your choices? YES...that was an important factor.

01-14-2010, 10:56 AM	#29
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	Curious, did you rate the K7 over the 300s purely because of the sensor photosite count? i.e. 7D = 18mill (approx) K7 = 14mill (approx) and the 300s = 12mill (approx). Seemingly every article I read comparing the 3 have the Nikon beating the Pentax. You must rate the Canons sensor at being pretty good at low ISO which is where you normally reside I think!

01-15-2010, 05:46 AM	#30
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	Originally posted by robbiec Curious, did you rate the K7 over the 300s purely because of the sensor photosite count? i.e. 7D = 18mill (approx) K7 = 14mill (approx) and the 300s = 12mill (approx). Seemingly every article I read comparing the 3 have the Nikon beating the Pentax. You must rate the Canons sensor at being pretty good at low ISO which is where you normally reside I think! The K7's resolving power and finesse at 100-200 iso is superior to that of the Nikon 300s. As simple as that IMHO.