Both Samsung nx and Pentax related

jeffkrol · 01-19-2010, 03:53 PM

The Korea Herald : The Nation's No.1 English Newspaper
The mirrorless camera market is expected to grow from 1 million units in 2010 to 5 million units in 2012, Samsung said.
"We plan to concentrate our resources on mirrorless DSLR cameras for the time being," an Samsung executive said at a news conference.
He also downplayed speculation that the company may give up its DSLR business and sever ties with Pentax, which Samsung heavily relies on for its DSLR cameras.
"We have maintained close ties with Pentax, our strategic partner," the executive said.

Samsung Denies M&A Deal With Pentax
Samsung Digital Imaging (SDI), Samsung Electronics' affiliate, has denied the possibility of buying Japan's Pentax Corp.

Park Sang-jin, president and CEO of Samsung Digital Imaging, said the company will maintain its current links with its Japanese partner.

"The need for the acquisition of Pentax has been reduced as Samsung has already internalized key camera-related technologies such as image sensors," the CEO said during a meeting with reporters in Seoul, Tuesday.

"We reviewed the M&A scenario a few years ago as Samsung was having difficulties in securing related technologies," the top executive said.

Upcoming hybrid digital cameras, possibly in the second half of this year, will be equipped with SDI's own lens and image sensors, he said.

"Another key point is that we will find new partners able to diversify possible channels for lenses."
Reading on it's funny to hear the "sabre ratteling. One question is which camera company suffered the 50 mil won loss? Nikon and Canon are said to have had a +20% net......
Love Samsungs propaganda machine.
One addition:
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?
Following the footsteps of Panasonic and Olympus, Korea’s Samsung Electronics unveiled its first hybrid camera, the NX10, at the International Consumer Electronics Show earlier this month. It plans to officially launch the product in Korea as early as today.

Last edited by jeffkrol; 01-19-2010 at 04:02 PM.

lithos · 01-19-2010, 06:34 PM

"Need for the acquisition of Pentax has been reduced..." = "We've got what want, suckers."

"We have maintained close ties with Pentax..." + "...we will find new partners...to diversify possible channels for lenses..." = "Oh, shit, we're not an optics company! Wait, what's Pentax been doing for the last seventy years?"

**jhaji** · 01-19-2010, 06:40 PM

Popular Photography reports that you can use Pentax/ Samsung K lenses on the NX with an adapter. The NX10 is supposed to list at $700 with a 18-55mm when it comes out in March.

Anybody aware of the degree of compatibility of Pentax lenses? They should consider throwing in the adapter to drive sales.

Urkeldaedalus · 01-19-2010, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Reading on it's funny to hear the "sabre ratteling. One question is which camera company suffered the 50 mil won loss? Nikon and Canon are said to have had a +20% net......

I assumed he was talking about Sony, which hasn't been doing as well as of late in the DSLR market and is more of a direct competitor for Samsung (thus the trash talking)

ryankarr · 01-19-2010, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by jhaji

Popular Photography reports that you can use Pentax/ Samsung K lenses on the NX with an adapter. The NX10 is supposed to list at $700 with a 18-55mm when it comes out in March.

Anybody aware of the degree of compatibility of Pentax lenses? They should consider throwing in the adapter to drive sales.

Now I'm interested. I had been looking a m4/3rds for the same reason.

RMabo · 01-20-2010, 02:25 AM

The K-mount adaptor for the Samsung NX system is manual focus only, so no support for autofocus.

kevinschoenmakers · 01-20-2010, 03:34 AM

Originally posted by RMabo

The K-mount adaptor for the Samsung NX system is manual focus only, so no support for autofocus.

You say this based on a preliminary picture which did show a hole for the screwdrive autofocus. In other words, you can't know this for sure.

eurostar · 01-20-2010, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by kevinschoenmakers

You say this based on a preliminary picture which did show a hole for the screwdrive autofocus. In other words, you can't know this for sure.

But there is no shaft coming out of the camera, so that, instead of a simple tube, the adapter should contain a motor able to convert electronical imput from the camera contacts into a mechanical drive...

... it seems little credible... even if not impossible...

juu · 01-20-2010, 05:00 AM

Yes, I suspect Samsung will give up on their DSLRs completely and on their ties with Pentax with that, unless Pentax wants to join the NX system, something that Samsung may not realize how much it needs.

woefulwabbit · 01-20-2010, 11:59 PM

Not sure if Samsung really needs Pentax for optics anymore. Schneider has been providing Samsung with optics for their digital cameras.

lithos · 01-21-2010, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by woefulwabbit

Not sure if Samsung really needs Pentax for optics anymore. Schneider has been providing Samsung with optics for their digital cameras.

Heh. No, I really don't think they have been doing that.

eurostar · 01-21-2010, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by lithos

Heh. No, I really don't think they have been doing that.

I second that. Schneider provided just a name...

tuszek · 01-21-2010, 05:06 AM

Quote:

The K-mount adaptor for the Samsung NX system is manual focus only, so no support for autofocus.

Autofocus ? I think most of us would be really happy if the adapter would at least do auto aperture... (which is mechanical as well)
And personally i would setle for an adapter that do have a full manual aperture ring. Since if there is no auto aperture controll, and its no aperture ring on the adaptor then lenses with no aperture rings (eg : SA; FAJ; DA; DAL; newDFA lenses, and in particular DA Limiteds) will not work on the nx (anything but fully closed or fully open depending on the implementation)

**Rondec** · 01-21-2010, 05:19 AM

Samsung desperately wants to be Sony, a mega company doing everything electronic. The problem is that it is hard to be a player late to the game in something like dSLRs. You tend to release a lot of me-to products that have to be priced lower than your competitors products in order to sell.

At the same time, unlike Sony, Samsung's sensor division hasn't been able to sell sensors to anyone else, except Pentax. I'd expect the relationship to continue as long as Pentax wants it to.

kevinschoenmakers · 01-21-2010, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

Samsung desperately wants to be Sony

You make it sound like they're playground kids who want to be the power rangers (or whatever's in swing these days). Samsung is alot larger than Sony, and I'm guessing they just see cameras as another way of making money.

01-19-2010, 03:53 PM	#1
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434	Both Samsung nx and Pentax related The Korea Herald : The Nation's No.1 English Newspaper The mirrorless camera market is expected to grow from 1 million units in 2010 to 5 million units in 2012, Samsung said. "We plan to concentrate our resources on mirrorless DSLR cameras for the time being," an Samsung executive said at a news conference. He also downplayed speculation that the company may give up its DSLR business and sever ties with Pentax, which Samsung heavily relies on for its DSLR cameras. "We have maintained close ties with Pentax, our strategic partner," the executive said. Samsung Denies M&A Deal With Pentax Samsung Digital Imaging (SDI), Samsung Electronics' affiliate, has denied the possibility of buying Japan's Pentax Corp. Park Sang-jin, president and CEO of Samsung Digital Imaging, said the company will maintain its current links with its Japanese partner. "The need for the acquisition of Pentax has been reduced as Samsung has already internalized key camera-related technologies such as image sensors," the CEO said during a meeting with reporters in Seoul, Tuesday. "We reviewed the M&A scenario a few years ago as Samsung was having difficulties in securing related technologies," the top executive said. Upcoming hybrid digital cameras, possibly in the second half of this year, will be equipped with SDI's own lens and image sensors, he said. "Another key point is that we will find new partners able to diversify possible channels for lenses." Reading on it's funny to hear the "sabre ratteling. One question is which camera company suffered the 50 mil won loss? Nikon and Canon are said to have had a +20% net...... Love Samsungs propaganda machine. One addition: http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp? Following the footsteps of Panasonic and Olympus, Korea’s Samsung Electronics unveiled its first hybrid camera, the NX10, at the International Consumer Electronics Show earlier this month. It plans to officially launch the product in Korea as early as today. Last edited by jeffkrol; 01-19-2010 at 04:02 PM.

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01-19-2010, 06:34 PM	#2
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	"Need for the acquisition of Pentax has been reduced..." = "We've got what want, suckers." "We have maintained close ties with Pentax..." + "...we will find new partners...to diversify possible channels for lenses..." = "Oh, shit, we're not an optics company! Wait, what's Pentax been doing for the last seventy years?"

01-19-2010, 06:40 PM	#3
jhaji Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,141	Popular Photography reports that you can use Pentax/ Samsung K lenses on the NX with an adapter. The NX10 is supposed to list at $700 with a 18-55mm when it comes out in March. Anybody aware of the degree of compatibility of Pentax lenses? They should consider throwing in the adapter to drive sales.

01-19-2010, 07:34 PM	#4
Urkeldaedalus Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,369	Quote: Reading on it's funny to hear the "sabre ratteling. One question is which camera company suffered the 50 mil won loss? Nikon and Canon are said to have had a +20% net...... I assumed he was talking about Sony, which hasn't been doing as well as of late in the DSLR market and is more of a direct competitor for Samsung (thus the trash talking)

01-19-2010, 10:26 PM	#5
ryankarr Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Calgary AB Posts: 40	Originally posted by jhaji Popular Photography reports that you can use Pentax/ Samsung K lenses on the NX with an adapter. The NX10 is supposed to list at $700 with a 18-55mm when it comes out in March. Anybody aware of the degree of compatibility of Pentax lenses? They should consider throwing in the adapter to drive sales. Now I'm interested. I had been looking a m4/3rds for the same reason.

01-20-2010, 02:25 AM	#6
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	The K-mount adaptor for the Samsung NX system is manual focus only, so no support for autofocus.

01-20-2010, 03:34 AM	#7
kevinschoenmakers Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shanghai Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,509	Originally posted by RMabo The K-mount adaptor for the Samsung NX system is manual focus only, so no support for autofocus. You say this based on a preliminary picture which did show a hole for the screwdrive autofocus. In other words, you can't know this for sure.

01-20-2010, 04:24 AM	#8
eurostar Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albareto, Italy Photos: Gallery Posts: 819	Originally posted by kevinschoenmakers You say this based on a preliminary picture which did show a hole for the screwdrive autofocus. In other words, you can't know this for sure. But there is no shaft coming out of the camera, so that, instead of a simple tube, the adapter should contain a motor able to convert electronical imput from the camera contacts into a mechanical drive... ... it seems little credible... even if not impossible...

01-20-2010, 05:00 AM	#9
juu Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 680	Yes, I suspect Samsung will give up on their DSLRs completely and on their ties with Pentax with that, unless Pentax wants to join the NX system, something that Samsung may not realize how much it needs.

01-20-2010, 11:59 PM	#10
woefulwabbit New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5	Not sure if Samsung really needs Pentax for optics anymore. Schneider has been providing Samsung with optics for their digital cameras.

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lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	Originally posted by woefulwabbit Not sure if Samsung really needs Pentax for optics anymore. Schneider has been providing Samsung with optics for their digital cameras. Heh. No, I really don't think they have been doing that.

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01-21-2010, 12:58 AM	#12
eurostar Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albareto, Italy Photos: Gallery Posts: 819	Originally posted by lithos Heh. No, I really don't think they have been doing that. I second that. Schneider provided just a name...

01-21-2010, 05:06 AM	#13
tuszek Inactive Account Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hungary Posts: 6	Quote: The K-mount adaptor for the Samsung NX system is manual focus only, so no support for autofocus. Autofocus ? I think most of us would be really happy if the adapter would at least do auto aperture... (which is mechanical as well) And personally i would setle for an adapter that do have a full manual aperture ring. Since if there is no auto aperture controll, and its no aperture ring on the adaptor then lenses with no aperture rings (eg : SA; FAJ; DA; DAL; newDFA lenses, and in particular DA Limiteds) will not work on the nx (anything but fully closed or fully open depending on the implementation)

01-21-2010, 05:19 AM	#14
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,650	Samsung desperately wants to be Sony, a mega company doing everything electronic. The problem is that it is hard to be a player late to the game in something like dSLRs. You tend to release a lot of me-to products that have to be priced lower than your competitors products in order to sell. At the same time, unlike Sony, Samsung's sensor division hasn't been able to sell sensors to anyone else, except Pentax. I'd expect the relationship to continue as long as Pentax wants it to.

01-21-2010, 05:28 AM	#15
kevinschoenmakers Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shanghai Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,509	Originally posted by Rondec Samsung desperately wants to be Sony You make it sound like they're playground kids who want to be the power rangers (or whatever's in swing these days). Samsung is alot larger than Sony, and I'm guessing they just see cameras as another way of making money.