Pentax to announce Optio H90 & Optio I-10 cameras

frank · 01-25-2010, 04:33 AM

Originally posted by ogl

It's not L. Is it I ??? New serie of cameras?

Yeah, it's an I, not L I think.

By the look of the camera, I guess Pentax is trying to produce something similar to the cute little 110 film camera, but this one doesn't come w/ interchangeable lens though.

Originally posted by lithos

The ability to fit into an Altoids tin?

Well, maybe something even cuter? Like a matching leather case or something ...

frank · 01-25-2010, 04:36 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

The W80 is not only weather-sealed, you can dive to 5 meters with it. I've had the W10 for 3,5 years, it's great fun on the beach and in the pool. My daughter got the W80 for christmas, and it takes significantly better pictures than the W10 as long as you stay at ISO 400 or below (which is one step better than the W10, but I wish they could make it usable at ISO 800 at least).

There might be a new W90 coming out this year with better features? Who knows, Pentax always gives us surprises

Steelski · 01-25-2010, 04:44 AM

Most high end small cameras start at near 26-24mm equivalent lenses no adays.

If the size of the sensor was 1/1.76 " ish, 1/8" it would be a 24mm equivalent with a 5.1mm lens. Infact the panasonic LX3 starts at 5.1 and its a 1/1.63 ", so it could use a similar sensor size. who knows.

But I would like a LX3 competitor. with the 5x zoom and retro look.
Cream all over!.

But if its a low end camera then GIVE me a BREAK!

frank · 01-25-2010, 05:04 AM

Originally posted by Steelski

Most high end small cameras start at near 26-24mm equivalent lenses no adays.

If the size of the sensor was 1/1.76 " ish, 1/8" it would be a 24mm equivalent with a 5.1mm lens. Infact the panasonic LX3 starts at 5.1 and its a 1/1.63 ", so it could use a similar sensor size. who knows.

But I would like a LX3 competitor. with the 5x zoom and retro look.
Cream all over!.

But if its a low end camera then GIVE me a BREAK!

I guess you need a break here

Erik · 01-25-2010, 05:08 AM

These are probably not Pentax lens designs, by the way -- like the X70 (which had a lens which was verifiably not made or designed by Pentax) they are labelled "PENTAX LENS", not "smc PENTAX LENS" like certain other Optios with actual Pentax lenses. Not that it really matters.

gazonk · 01-25-2010, 05:48 AM

Originally posted by frank

There might be a new W90 coming out this year with better features? Who knows, Pentax always gives us surprises

If the W90 is one step noisier, I would be happy. But I still think W80 is one of the most interesting and useful pocketable cameras on the market.

gazonk · 01-25-2010, 06:03 AM

Originally posted by frank

Yeah, it's an I, not L I think.

Looks like a lower case L to me, in a slanted (not italic) version of a serif font.

Supernaut · 01-25-2010, 06:40 AM

A 1/1.7" -ish sensor would really be good news. If it later ends up in a water sealed body, I will get one!

lithos · 01-25-2010, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by frank

Well, maybe something even cuter? Like a matching leather case or something ...

What, bunny ears or something that fit onto the hotshoe?

**RuiC** · 01-25-2010, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

Looks like a lower case L to me, in a slanted (not italic) version of a serif font.

It is a marketing rule to name a model always with UPPER case unless you don't want/need to sell.
If this model is to look like the A110 then its name will be I10 not L10.

frank · 01-25-2010, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

Looks like a lower case L to me, in a slanted (not italic) version of a serif font.

Yeah, you might be right.

But I still think it'd be an I 'cause it sounds cooler and it's in line w/ the trend (many cool gadgets start w/ an I in their names, thanks to Apple)

Andres · 01-25-2010, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by GerryL

Looks like a Sony

Let's say that the So*ny looks like an Auto 110

I like the black one! even features SR and the wide angle (w60 like?)

gazonk · 01-25-2010, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by RuiC

It is a marketing rule to name a model always with UPPER case unless you don't want/need to sell.

You should tell Apple that they won't sell any iPods or iPhones! And Hyundai won't sell any cars at all any more, all their new models are follow the pattern i<some number>.

EDIT: But now that I've seen the black version, I'm convinced that it's I-10!

**RuiC** · 01-25-2010, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

You should tell Apple that they won't sell any iPods or iPhones! And Hyundai won't sell any cars at all any more, all their new models are follow the pattern i<some number>.

OK, I'll tell them. I wouldn't buy any of those anyway.

Art Vandelay II · 01-25-2010, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by m8o

Why is 1/2.33 something to be happy about and discuss? Not being sarcastic; I'm ignorant about these sensors & want to know.

1/2.33 = pretty much the smallest and most worthless sensor size currently being used in cameras. It's fine for cell phones, but if I'm going to buy an actual camera then 1/1.7 is the absolute smallest I will consider...and even with that size (I own a Canon G10) you still have virtually no depth of field control. I think 2/3's is as small as should be used in a camera and even with that I'd still need a second camera with a larger sensor. The 4/3's sensor is about as small as you can go and still have good DOF control as well as decent high iso IQ.

Here's are two nice image sensor size diagrams:

01-25-2010, 04:44 AM	#33
Steelski Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Varna Posts: 470	the lens is interesting. Most high end small cameras start at near 26-24mm equivalent lenses no adays. If the size of the sensor was 1/1.76 " ish, 1/8" it would be a 24mm equivalent with a 5.1mm lens. Infact the panasonic LX3 starts at 5.1 and its a 1/1.63 ", so it could use a similar sensor size. who knows. But I would like a LX3 competitor. with the 5x zoom and retro look. Cream all over!. But if its a low end camera then GIVE me a BREAK!

01-25-2010, 07:56 AM	#45
Art Vandelay II Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 886	Originally posted by m8o Why is 1/2.33 something to be happy about and discuss? Not being sarcastic; I'm ignorant about these sensors & want to know. 1/2.33 = pretty much the smallest and most worthless sensor size currently being used in cameras. It's fine for cell phones, but if I'm going to buy an actual camera then 1/1.7 is the absolute smallest I will consider...and even with that size (I own a Canon G10) you still have virtually no depth of field control. I think 2/3's is as small as should be used in a camera and even with that I'd still need a second camera with a larger sensor. The 4/3's sensor is about as small as you can go and still have good DOF control as well as decent high iso IQ. Here's are two nice image sensor size diagrams: Last edited by Art Vandelay II; 01-25-2010 at 08:02 AM.

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01-25-2010, 04:33 AM	#31
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	Originally posted by ogl It's not L. Is it I ??? New serie of cameras? Yeah, it's an I, not L I think. By the look of the camera, I guess Pentax is trying to produce something similar to the cute little 110 film camera, but this one doesn't come w/ interchangeable lens though. Originally posted by lithos The ability to fit into an Altoids tin? Well, maybe something even cuter? Like a matching leather case or something ...

01-25-2010, 04:36 AM	#32
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	Originally posted by gazonk The W80 is not only weather-sealed, you can dive to 5 meters with it. I've had the W10 for 3,5 years, it's great fun on the beach and in the pool. My daughter got the W80 for christmas, and it takes significantly better pictures than the W10 as long as you stay at ISO 400 or below (which is one step better than the W10, but I wish they could make it usable at ISO 800 at least). There might be a new W90 coming out this year with better features? Who knows, Pentax always gives us surprises

01-25-2010, 05:04 AM	#34
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	Originally posted by Steelski Most high end small cameras start at near 26-24mm equivalent lenses no adays. If the size of the sensor was 1/1.76 " ish, 1/8" it would be a 24mm equivalent with a 5.1mm lens. Infact the panasonic LX3 starts at 5.1 and its a 1/1.63 ", so it could use a similar sensor size. who knows. But I would like a LX3 competitor. with the 5x zoom and retro look. Cream all over!. But if its a low end camera then GIVE me a BREAK! I guess you need a break here

01-25-2010, 05:08 AM	#35
Erik Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 755	These are probably not Pentax lens designs, by the way -- like the X70 (which had a lens which was verifiably not made or designed by Pentax) they are labelled "PENTAX LENS", not "smc PENTAX LENS" like certain other Optios with actual Pentax lenses. Not that it really matters.

01-25-2010, 05:48 AM	#36
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by frank There might be a new W90 coming out this year with better features? Who knows, Pentax always gives us surprises If the W90 is one step noisier, I would be happy. But I still think W80 is one of the most interesting and useful pocketable cameras on the market.

01-25-2010, 06:03 AM	#37
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by frank Yeah, it's an I, not L I think. Looks like a lower case L to me, in a slanted (not italic) version of a serif font.

01-25-2010, 06:40 AM	#38
Supernaut Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Coast , Sweden Posts: 467	A 1/1.7" -ish sensor would really be good news. If it later ends up in a water sealed body, I will get one!

01-25-2010, 07:24 AM	#39
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	Originally posted by frank Well, maybe something even cuter? Like a matching leather case or something ... What, bunny ears or something that fit onto the hotshoe?

01-25-2010, 07:27 AM	#40
RuiC Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lisboa - The best destination in Europe Posts: 633	Originally posted by gazonk Looks like a lower case L to me, in a slanted (not italic) version of a serif font. It is a marketing rule to name a model always with UPPER case unless you don't want/need to sell. If this model is to look like the A110 then its name will be I10 not L10.

01-25-2010, 07:28 AM	#41
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	Originally posted by gazonk Looks like a lower case L to me, in a slanted (not italic) version of a serif font. Yeah, you might be right. But I still think it'd be an I 'cause it sounds cooler and it's in line w/ the trend (many cool gadgets start w/ an I in their names, thanks to Apple)

01-25-2010, 07:38 AM	#42
Andres Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Buenos Aires Photos: Albums Posts: 240	Originally posted by GerryL Looks like a Sony Let's say that the So*ny looks like an Auto 110 I like the black one! even features SR and the wide angle (w60 like?)

01-25-2010, 07:41 AM	#43
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by RuiC It is a marketing rule to name a model always with UPPER case unless you don't want/need to sell. You should tell Apple that they won't sell any iPods or iPhones! And Hyundai won't sell any cars at all any more, all their new models are follow the pattern i<some number>. EDIT: But now that I've seen the black version, I'm convinced that it's I-10!

01-25-2010, 07:43 AM	#44
RuiC Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lisboa - The best destination in Europe Posts: 633	Originally posted by gazonk You should tell Apple that they won't sell any iPods or iPhones! And Hyundai won't sell any cars at all any more, all their new models are follow the pattern i<some number>. OK, I'll tell them. I wouldn't buy any of those anyway.