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02-09-2010, 04:48 AM   #1
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prime lens envy -- never mind "upping the ante" on camera bodies

For a while, it seemed like Pentax was the only one who "got" prime lenses. And they still do. But, yum:

Nikon releases 24mm f/1.4 G ED fast wideangle lens: Digital Photography Review

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QuoteOriginally posted by mattdm Quote
For a while, it seemed like Pentax was the only one who "got" prime lenses. And they still do. But, yum:

Nikon releases 24mm f/1.4 G ED fast wideangle lens: Digital Photography Review
My slightly hidden 1000th post was about this.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/88447-what-you...m-lense-5.html
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Nice looking lens. But even if it was a pentax there is no way I could afford to slap down 2.2K on a lens.

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QuoteOriginally posted by NaClH2O Quote
Nice looking lens. But even if it was a pentax there is no way I could afford to slap down 2.2K on a lens.
That's what I was thinking too...what kind of che...errr frugal pentaxian would buy that?

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It also outweighs and is nearly as large as a DA* 16-50/2.8. Methinks that as nice as Pentax equipment is, if this is the sort of lens you really want, you'll get the body to mount it on. I wouldn't want Pentax to go broke trying to match this kind of thing. A DA* 24/2 (designed for APS-C, meaning smaller than FA*) might be a more realistic goal for Pentax but I'd rather see them make a 80-400/4.5-5.6, a 400/4, a new TC, and a DA* version of the well-regarded (for other mounts) Tokina 11-16/2.8.
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Andrew, I have to agree with you. My FA ltd's are nice and small and handy. besides I already have a fast 24, the Sigma f1.8 which is quite good and can be had for a small fraction of the the Nikon. Even the FA* 24 is much much much cheaper. Personally I'd like to see the FA 20-35remade and increased to F2.8. Now that would be a lens to drool over.

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QuoteOriginally posted by NaClH2O Quote
Andrew, I have to agree with you. My FA ltd's are nice and small and handy. besides I already have a fast 24, the Sigma f1.8 which is quite good and can be had for a small fraction of the the Nikon. Even the FA* 24 is much much much cheaper. Personally I'd like to see the FA 20-35remade and increased to F2.8. Now that would be a lens to drool over.

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I use my FA20-35/4 when i want a compact zoom--covers mild wide to normal with good quality. In truth I could probably use the kit zoom for the same purpose as it is probably pretty close in performance through this range, plus has quick-shift focusing and a properly-designed-for-digital hood...but I sort of like the stubby 20-35. I agree that it would be nice...though I fear if f/2.8 it would need to be larger, even if made for APS-C. Sometimes I think Pentax should try some constant f/3.5 designs, though I kind of doubt they well--I think they like to differentiate their f/4 and f/2.8 products that way.

One of my favorite zooms is the FA24-90/3.5-4.5. I now have a 17-70/4 as well which is nice enough but kind of wish they'd make a 20-80/3.5-4.5 instead to keep it a bit smaller (probably).

I'm pretty sure that Nikon is a good deal better than that Sigma you mention though (and it had better be for the price)--I have to imagine they designed it to beat their excellent 14-24/2.8 and 16-35/2.8 zooms. The FA*24/2 doesn't appear that strong with modern tests--especially not for use in the way that people would like to use it. You're sort of willing to expect to have to stop down an ultra-wide for landscape shooting--don't necessarily need to shoot it wide open--but on digital, when it's basically used like a classic 35mm, you're more likely to want to shoot it wide open, and the FA*24/2, despite being designed for full-frame, isn't as good at this, with soft corners.
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Pentax mount for the Tokina 80-400 for me too - I would love to upgrade from the series one I like using but has low res al full zoom unlike the more recent versions on other mounts - would even sell the DA50-200 to get it.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Arjay Bee Quote
Pentax mount for the Tokina 80-400 for me too - I would love to upgrade from the series one I like using but has low res al full zoom unlike the more recent versions on other mounts - would even sell the DA50-200 to get it.
Sell DA50-200 to pay for a polarizing filter for the Tokina 80-400?
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2.2k, good god that's big money. You can get all 3 FA Limiteds for 2.2k.
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I think Pentax can't sell enough 24/1.4 for 2.2K to cover the expenses for development.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mattdm Quote
For a while, it seemed like Pentax was the only one who "got" prime lenses. And they still do. But, yum:

Nikon releases 24mm f/1.4 G ED fast wideangle lens: Digital Photography Review
Nobody seems excited that "brand C" has had a 24/1.4 out for quite some time now... in fact they're on Mark II version of it.

And I dare say Canon "gets" primes. Not only do they have a VERY extensive lineup including a nice group of tilt/shift lenses, they also offer many lenses in both high and mid grade versions (e.g. 24/2.8 and 24/1.8, 35/2 and 35/1.4, 50/1.8 and 50/1.4 and 50/1.2) so that there's "something for everyone" depending on how much money they want to spend.

At a glance, they currently have 36 primes listed as in production.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pingflood Quote
Nobody seems excited that "brand C" has had a 24/1.4 out for quite some time now... in fact they're on Mark II version of it.
This one's weather sealed though. The only weather sealed non-telephoto prime in the Canon lineup is 50 f/1.2. But Nikon does have a poor selection of non-telephoto primes.

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And I dare say Canon "gets" primes.
I mentioned something to the effect elsewhere.
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This one's weather sealed though.
So is the Canon 24/1.4L II.
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So is the Canon 24/1.4L II.
I see. Thanks for the correction.
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