645D, K-m2 and NEW LENSES DA10-16/4 SDM, DA20/2 SDM, DA*28/2 SDM

FullertonImages · 02-13-2010, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Pentax K-x price drops again: now $470 with one-lens, $574/$650 with two-lenses - 1001 Noisy Cameras

is it strange? so quick and big drop of price. K-x is just 5 month old

To make room for a third line between K-x and K-7...?

Tommy · 02-13-2010, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by Art Vandelay II

Still though, I think ultrawide zooms are pretty much pointless. I'd rather just have a 17mm f/2.8 (in full frame terms). I hardly ever used my Tokina anywhere other than 11mm's. So the zoom was just pointless bulk to me. I'd rather have an ultrawide prime and then a 24-xx zoom to go with it.

I agree. I'd like the DA12-24 or a DA*10-16 for the wider end. I think its a pity that they decided to do a limited (DA 15 ltd) on the longer side of the already avaliable DA14. I would much rather have a 12 mm prime.

Or maybe even a 13mm/f1.3 for us non-superstitious people

/Tommy

davidvcd · 02-13-2010, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by Tommy

I agree. I'd like the DA12-24 or a DA*10-16 for the wider end. I think its a pity that they decided to do a limited (DA 15 ltd) on the longer side of the already avaliable DA14. I would much rather have a 12 mm prime.

Or maybe even a 13mm/f1.3 for us non-superstitious people

/Tommy

I'm more partial to a 13mm f3.7 limited

emr · 02-13-2010, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by davidvcd

I'm more partial to a 13mm f3.7 limited

Ehm? Leet speak?

Urkeldaedalus · 02-13-2010, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by GeneralBenson

To make room for a third line between K-x and K-7...?

Seems like a logical move to me. The benefit of the K-x always was the fact that Pentax could reuse the R&D from the K-7 and the body of the K-m, so it probably didn't cost them that much to make. Also, the more they drop price of the K-x, the more they can drop the K-7 price, which would allow another model above the K-7 to be released. It all depends on what they are planning to do with these new cameras.

I'm sure they would have loved to keep the price of these cameras higher for longer, however. When they say things like [paraphrase] "profits are down due to competitive pricing in this sector" I bet this is the sort of thing they are referring to.

Corros · 02-15-2010, 02:12 PM

Why always the questions about a FF or Pro camera? Pentax needs a real good lineup from the buttom. Starting at 400 USD 600 USD 800 USD 1000 USD. When that's done make one for 1500 USD for pro's. FF is not really needed. Look at olympus!

asdf · 02-15-2010, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by Corros

Why always the questions about a FF or Pro camera? Pentax needs a real good lineup from the buttom. Starting at 400 USD 600 USD 800 USD 1000 USD. When that's done make one for 1500 USD for pro's. FF is not really needed. Look at olympus!

1D IV is not full frame, so not all current "pro" cameras are full frame...but Olympus is really pushing it with their tiny viewfinders. Have you looked through one? I have. It's not very good.

mawz · 02-16-2010, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by asdf

1D IV is not full frame, so not all current "pro" cameras are full frame...but Olympus is really pushing it with their tiny viewfinders. Have you looked through one? I have. It's not very good.

The E-30 and E-3 finders are good, with the E-3's being comparable to the K-7's and the E-30's to the K-x's. It's the consumer bodies which have a dim window at the end of a long tunnel for a finder.

Zebooka · 02-16-2010, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by asdf

1D IV is not full frame, so not all current "pro" cameras are full frame...but Olympus is really pushing it with their tiny viewfinders. Have you looked through one? I have. It's not very good.

Olympus E-3 has the same viewfinder size as K10D. I've compared both

Christopher M.W.T · 08-01-2010, 01:29 AM

Resurrected, but it's interesting to see that the price prediction for the 645D was spot on the money.

Now the wonder is will the lenses be?

As for the Km-2 it might gel with the K-x successor that I am aware of (the sub K-7 model to be announced at photokina) based on what I know....

zackspeed · 08-01-2010, 09:02 AM

that was only speculation and the price was no more a secret at this time

kxr4trids · 08-01-2010, 02:30 PM

Wonder what will replace the 16-50

zelovoc · 08-03-2010, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by kxr4trids

wonder what will replace the 16-50

16-50 ii

**Digitalis** · 08-08-2010, 08:35 AM

I don't usually post on rumours forums but I hope they do at least make the 20mm I couldn't care less about the zoom, but the 20 f/2 and 28mm f/2 are long overdue. I just hope they are conservative about the filter threads, (about 52~62mm diameter) but pentax usually are consistent with their prime lenses.

**Aristophanes** · 08-08-2010, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by Corros

Why always the questions about a FF or Pro camera? Pentax needs a real good lineup from the buttom. Starting at 400 USD 600 USD 800 USD 1000 USD. When that's done make one for 1500 USD for pro's. FF is not really needed. Look at olympus!

Olympus has abandoned their DSLR market for M4/3. It's orphaned precisely because 4/3 cannot compete when FF makes its way down the price points (as it inevitably will).

There's a Sony white paper on E-mount that indicates the NEX will eventually go FF.

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02-13-2010, 12:14 AM	#106
FullertonImages Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 883	Originally posted by ogl Pentax K-x price drops again: now $470 with one-lens, $574/$650 with two-lenses - 1001 Noisy Cameras is it strange? so quick and big drop of price. K-x is just 5 month old To make room for a third line between K-x and K-7...?

02-13-2010, 02:44 AM	#107
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 195	Originally posted by Art Vandelay II Still though, I think ultrawide zooms are pretty much pointless. I'd rather just have a 17mm f/2.8 (in full frame terms). I hardly ever used my Tokina anywhere other than 11mm's. So the zoom was just pointless bulk to me. I'd rather have an ultrawide prime and then a 24-xx zoom to go with it. I agree. I'd like the DA12-24 or a DA*10-16 for the wider end. I think its a pity that they decided to do a limited (DA 15 ltd) on the longer side of the already avaliable DA14. I would much rather have a 12 mm prime. Or maybe even a 13mm/f1.3 for us non-superstitious people /Tommy

02-13-2010, 07:48 AM	#108
davidvcd Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NorthernVA , USA / Grenoble, FRANCE Posts: 148	Originally posted by Tommy I agree. I'd like the DA12-24 or a DA*10-16 for the wider end. I think its a pity that they decided to do a limited (DA 15 ltd) on the longer side of the already avaliable DA14. I would much rather have a 12 mm prime. Or maybe even a 13mm/f1.3 for us non-superstitious people /Tommy I'm more partial to a 13mm f3.7 limited

02-13-2010, 08:06 AM	#109
emr Guest	Originally posted by davidvcd I'm more partial to a 13mm f3.7 limited Ehm? Leet speak?

02-13-2010, 10:22 AM	#110
Urkeldaedalus Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,369	Originally posted by GeneralBenson To make room for a third line between K-x and K-7...? Seems like a logical move to me. The benefit of the K-x always was the fact that Pentax could reuse the R&D from the K-7 and the body of the K-m, so it probably didn't cost them that much to make. Also, the more they drop price of the K-x, the more they can drop the K-7 price, which would allow another model above the K-7 to be released. It all depends on what they are planning to do with these new cameras. I'm sure they would have loved to keep the price of these cameras higher for longer, however. When they say things like [paraphrase] "profits are down due to competitive pricing in this sector" I bet this is the sort of thing they are referring to.

02-15-2010, 02:12 PM	#111
Corros Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gouda, Netherlands Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 165	Why always the questions about a FF or Pro camera? Pentax needs a real good lineup from the buttom. Starting at 400 USD 600 USD 800 USD 1000 USD. When that's done make one for 1500 USD for pro's. FF is not really needed. Look at olympus!

02-15-2010, 03:20 PM	#112
asdf Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,252	Originally posted by Corros Why always the questions about a FF or Pro camera? Pentax needs a real good lineup from the buttom. Starting at 400 USD 600 USD 800 USD 1000 USD. When that's done make one for 1500 USD for pro's. FF is not really needed. Look at olympus! 1D IV is not full frame, so not all current "pro" cameras are full frame...but Olympus is really pushing it with their tiny viewfinders. Have you looked through one? I have. It's not very good.

02-16-2010, 07:32 PM	#113
mawz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 166	Originally posted by asdf 1D IV is not full frame, so not all current "pro" cameras are full frame...but Olympus is really pushing it with their tiny viewfinders. Have you looked through one? I have. It's not very good. The E-30 and E-3 finders are good, with the E-3's being comparable to the K-7's and the E-30's to the K-x's. It's the consumer bodies which have a dim window at the end of a long tunnel for a finder.

02-16-2010, 08:09 PM	#114
Zebooka Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Russia, Siberia, Novosibirsk Posts: 323	Originally posted by asdf 1D IV is not full frame, so not all current "pro" cameras are full frame...but Olympus is really pushing it with their tiny viewfinders. Have you looked through one? I have. It's not very good. Olympus E-3 has the same viewfinder size as K10D. I've compared both

08-01-2010, 01:29 AM	#115
Christopher M.W.T Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,689	Resurrected, but it's interesting to see that the price prediction for the 645D was spot on the money. Now the wonder is will the lenses be? As for the Km-2 it might gel with the K-x successor that I am aware of (the sub K-7 model to be announced at photokina) based on what I know....

08-01-2010, 09:02 AM	#116
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	that was only speculation and the price was no more a secret at this time

08-01-2010, 02:30 PM	#117
kxr4trids Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: VA Photos: Albums Posts: 227	Wonder what will replace the 16-50

08-03-2010, 10:33 AM	#118
zelovoc Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kosice Posts: 80	Originally posted by kxr4trids wonder what will replace the 16-50 16-50 ii

08-08-2010, 08:35 AM	#119
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	I don't usually post on rumours forums but I hope they do at least make the 20mm I couldn't care less about the zoom, but the 20 f/2 and 28mm f/2 are long overdue. I just hope they are conservative about the filter threads, (about 52~62mm diameter) but pentax usually are consistent with their prime lenses.

08-08-2010, 08:44 AM	#120
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Originally posted by Corros Why always the questions about a FF or Pro camera? Pentax needs a real good lineup from the buttom. Starting at 400 USD 600 USD 800 USD 1000 USD. When that's done make one for 1500 USD for pro's. FF is not really needed. Look at olympus! Olympus has abandoned their DSLR market for M4/3. It's orphaned precisely because 4/3 cannot compete when FF makes its way down the price points (as it inevitably will). There's a Sony white paper on E-mount that indicates the NEX will eventually go FF.

645D, K-m2 and NEW LENSES DA*10-16/4 SDM, DA*20/2 SDM, DA*28/2 SDM

645D, K-m2 and NEW LENSES DA10-16/4 SDM, DA20/2 SDM, DA*28/2 SDM