645D is here ...

Christopher M.W.T · 02-10-2010, 05:14 PM

Well I can say with 100% certainty that the 645D wont be a Japan only market product

Just got confirmation this morning from the top. So it's coming!

SteveM · 02-10-2010, 05:32 PM

Pentax Canada lists all of the 645 FA lenses....of course it doesn't help much as they don't have a web store. They can probably order it in though (they just brought in a new focus screen for my 67II without any problem)....

Pentax Canada - 645 Lenses - Auto Focus

Christopher M.W.T · 02-10-2010, 06:41 PM

Anyone know much about Digital Medium Format for Astrophotography?

Blue · 02-10-2010, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by ozlizard

I hope it's not the 645D, that has to be the ugliest piece of photographic equipment ever produced...no I am wrong, please forgive me, it's the ugliest piece of any equipment ever produced! Can't someone translate what it says on the site, might be a clue there?

Its not like the 645n was gorgeous or anything.

Google Image Result for http://www.ellenrooneydesign.com/gsproduction/sites/default/files/images/645n-1.jpg

jogiba · 02-10-2010, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by pdangcil

Forget about FF... medium format is the next best thing! This is clearly a 645D!

Right, why would anyone want a FF Pentax DSLR like the Canon 5D MKII for $2,500 that takes K mount lenses when you could get the MF 645D for $9,500 that does not work with the 24 million FF K mount lenses out there.

Blue · 02-10-2010, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

Right, why would anyone want a FF Pentax DSLR like the Canon 5D MKII for $2,500 that takes K mount lenses when you could get the MF 645D for $9,500 that does not work with the 24 million FF K mount lenses out there.

How about a Canon MKxxx that takes FD lenses? That would be one bitchin ride. What about all those people out there that have FA 645 glass already?

Damn Brit · 02-10-2010, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by creampuff

Sorry but what you've written is too condescending and insulting to say the least.
As a moderator I would have expected better.

Given the expected high price point and small pool of potential users, it makes sense for Pentax to release it to the Japanese market first.

It wasn't meant to be condescending or insulting Denis. I've seen it mentioned several times, most recently when there was a discussion about why Pentax wasn't selling all the colours of the Kx elsewhere other than Japan. My understanding is that culturally the Japanese consumer doesn't usually suffer from buyers remorse and return a product whereas over here in the US it happens a lot and so the stores and manufacturers are left with a lot of new products which can't be sold as new.

The guinea pig part of my comment was based on the reality that the consumer is the guinea pig these days. A product is shipped out for sale and problems are identified when the consumer experiences failure.

Danny Delcambre · 02-10-2010, 08:52 PM

How about CMOS and CCD? I don't know any user like CMOS or CCD?? I think old 645 was CCD. I am not sure about 645D.

Samsungian · 02-10-2010, 09:00 PM

Here's the quote:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/793056-post6.html

>"

Originally Posted by rawr
Thanks.

Any idea when/if all the '100 Colours' and styles will become available outside Japan?

That would be so cool.

Reply:

I don't think anytime soon. Something most people don't necessarily consider is the purchasing habits in different culture. In Japan, a customer would never dream of returning a product after they committed to purchasing it. If they order a pink and yellow camera, and they didn't like it after it arrived, they would stick with their decision. U.S. customers tend to return product for everything from real to perceived defects, to buyers remorse. That would leave Pentax or dealers with a bunch of odd colored cameras that people decided to return.

Thanks,

John

<"

Originally posted by Damn Brit

It wasn't meant to be condescending or insulting Denis. I've seen it mentioned several times, most recently when there was a discussion about why Pentax wasn't selling all the colours of the Kx elsewhere other than Japan. My understanding is that culturally the Japanese consumer doesn't usually suffer from buyers remorse and return a product whereas over here in the US it happens a lot and so the stores and manufacturers are left with a lot of new products which can't be sold as new.

The guinea pig part of my comment was based on the reality that the consumer is the guinea pig these days. A product is shipped out for sale and problems are identified when the consumer experiences failure.

jogiba · 02-10-2010, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Blue

How about a Canon MKxxx that takes FD lenses? That would be one bitchin ride. What about all those people out there that have FA 645 glass already?

There are at least 10x more people with FF K mount lenses that would buy a $2,500 FF Pentax DSLR than would buy a $9,500 645D to use with FA 645 glass.

Samsungian · 02-10-2010, 09:11 PM

Pentax USA only has 6x7 teleconverter, nothing else for 645 or 6X7

That FA 35mm f3.5 645 has been out of production for years.

Why not see what Pentax Canada can get for you from their historical 645, 6x7 listings.

I remember buying my first K-Mount dslr in 2006, &being excited about locating new Pentax made glass, &placing inquires with local shop and being told nothing was available after they called Pentax Colorado headquarters. Even though the lenses were in current Pentax catalogue.

Deja-Vu

Originally posted by smc

Pentax Canada lists all of the 645 FA lenses....of course it doesn't help much as they don't have a web store. They can probably order it in though (they just brought in a new focus screen for my 67II without any problem)....

Pentax Canada - 645 Lenses - Auto Focus

GoremanX · 02-10-2010, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by Danny Delcambre

How about CMOS and CCD? I don't know any user like CMOS or CCD?? I think old 645 was CCD. I am not sure about 645D.

pardon? Was that supposed to make sense?

The old 645 was a film camera, there was no sensor (CMOS, CCD or otherwise)

ogl · 02-10-2010, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by Samsungian

Pentax USA only has 6x7 teleconverter, nothing else for 645 or 6X7

That FA 35mm f3.5 645 has been out of production for years.

Why not see what Pentax Canada can get for you from their historical 645, 6x7 listings.

(

My friend from USA said that it's not very hard to find FA645 in even small photo shops. But the situation was MUCH better 1-2 year ago.

Deniz · 02-11-2010, 01:20 AM

How come you guys can be so asure about the 645D. I think this new thing can be an upgraded version of the K-x.

(Well, I hope it's not since I just orderded a K-x just a couple of days ago..)

Christopher M.W.T · 02-11-2010, 03:05 AM

Originally posted by Deniz

How come you guys can be so asure about the 645D. I think this new thing can be an upgraded version of the K-x.

(Well, I hope it's not since I just orderded a K-x just a couple of days ago..)

Definately is the 645D, I confirmed it this morning with those responsible and other info that I cannot disclose.

02-10-2010, 09:00 PM	#99
Samsungian Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 1,337	Thats what I recall reading Here's the quote: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/793056-post6.html >" Originally Posted by rawr Thanks. Any idea when/if all the '100 Colours' and styles will become available outside Japan? That would be so cool. Reply: I don't think anytime soon. Something most people don't necessarily consider is the purchasing habits in different culture. In Japan, a customer would never dream of returning a product after they committed to purchasing it. If they order a pink and yellow camera, and they didn't like it after it arrived, they would stick with their decision. U.S. customers tend to return product for everything from real to perceived defects, to buyers remorse. That would leave Pentax or dealers with a bunch of odd colored cameras that people decided to return. Thanks, John <" Originally posted by Damn Brit It wasn't meant to be condescending or insulting Denis. I've seen it mentioned several times, most recently when there was a discussion about why Pentax wasn't selling all the colours of the Kx elsewhere other than Japan. My understanding is that culturally the Japanese consumer doesn't usually suffer from buyers remorse and return a product whereas over here in the US it happens a lot and so the stores and manufacturers are left with a lot of new products which can't be sold as new. The guinea pig part of my comment was based on the reality that the consumer is the guinea pig these days. A product is shipped out for sale and problems are identified when the consumer experiences failure.

02-10-2010, 09:11 PM	#101
Samsungian Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 1,337	Pentax USA only has 6x7 teleconverter, nothing else for 645 or 6X7 Pentax USA only has 6x7 teleconverter, nothing else for 645 or 6X7 That FA 35mm f3.5 645 has been out of production for years. Why not see what Pentax Canada can get for you from their historical 645, 6x7 listings. I remember buying my first K-Mount dslr in 2006, &being excited about locating new Pentax made glass, &placing inquires with local shop and being told nothing was available after they called Pentax Colorado headquarters. Even though the lenses were in current Pentax catalogue. Deja-Vu Originally posted by smc Pentax Canada lists all of the 645 FA lenses....of course it doesn't help much as they don't have a web store. They can probably order it in though (they just brought in a new focus screen for my 67II without any problem).... Pentax Canada - 645 Lenses - Auto Focus

02-10-2010, 10:12 PM	#103
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Samsungian Pentax USA only has 6x7 teleconverter, nothing else for 645 or 6X7 That FA 35mm f3.5 645 has been out of production for years. Why not see what Pentax Canada can get for you from their historical 645, 6x7 listings. ( My friend from USA said that it's not very hard to find FA645 in even small photo shops. But the situation was MUCH better 1-2 year ago. Last edited by ogl; 02-10-2010 at 10:47 PM.

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02-10-2010, 05:14 PM	#91
Christopher M.W.T Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,689	Well I can say with 100% certainty that the 645D wont be a Japan only market product Just got confirmation this morning from the top. So it's coming!

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SteveM Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,294	Pentax Canada lists all of the 645 FA lenses....of course it doesn't help much as they don't have a web store. They can probably order it in though (they just brought in a new focus screen for my 67II without any problem).... Pentax Canada - 645 Lenses - Auto Focus

02-10-2010, 06:41 PM	#93
Christopher M.W.T Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,689	Anyone know much about Digital Medium Format for Astrophotography?

02-10-2010, 07:19 PM	#94
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by ozlizard I hope it's not the 645D, that has to be the ugliest piece of photographic equipment ever produced...no I am wrong, please forgive me, it's the ugliest piece of any equipment ever produced! Can't someone translate what it says on the site, might be a clue there? Its not like the 645n was gorgeous or anything. Google Image Result for http://www.ellenrooneydesign.com/gsproduction/sites/default/files/images/645n-1.jpg

02-10-2010, 07:39 PM	#95
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by pdangcil Forget about FF... medium format is the next best thing! This is clearly a 645D! Right, why would anyone want a FF Pentax DSLR like the Canon 5D MKII for $2,500 that takes K mount lenses when you could get the MF 645D for $9,500 that does not work with the 24 million FF K mount lenses out there.

02-10-2010, 07:48 PM	#96
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by jogiba Right, why would anyone want a FF Pentax DSLR like the Canon 5D MKII for $2,500 that takes K mount lenses when you could get the MF 645D for $9,500 that does not work with the 24 million FF K mount lenses out there. How about a Canon MKxxx that takes FD lenses? That would be one bitchin ride. What about all those people out there that have FA 645 glass already?

02-10-2010, 08:03 PM	#97
Damn Brit Guest	Originally posted by creampuff Sorry but what you've written is too condescending and insulting to say the least. As a moderator I would have expected better. Given the expected high price point and small pool of potential users, it makes sense for Pentax to release it to the Japanese market first. It wasn't meant to be condescending or insulting Denis. I've seen it mentioned several times, most recently when there was a discussion about why Pentax wasn't selling all the colours of the Kx elsewhere other than Japan. My understanding is that culturally the Japanese consumer doesn't usually suffer from buyers remorse and return a product whereas over here in the US it happens a lot and so the stores and manufacturers are left with a lot of new products which can't be sold as new. The guinea pig part of my comment was based on the reality that the consumer is the guinea pig these days. A product is shipped out for sale and problems are identified when the consumer experiences failure.

02-10-2010, 08:52 PM	#98
Danny Delcambre Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 550	How about CMOS and CCD? I don't know any user like CMOS or CCD?? I think old 645 was CCD. I am not sure about 645D.

02-10-2010, 09:11 PM	#100
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by Blue How about a Canon MKxxx that takes FD lenses? That would be one bitchin ride. What about all those people out there that have FA 645 glass already? There are at least 10x more people with FF K mount lenses that would buy a $2,500 FF Pentax DSLR than would buy a $9,500 645D to use with FA 645 glass.

02-10-2010, 09:40 PM	#102
GoremanX Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Georgia, VT Photos: Albums Posts: 1,657	Originally posted by Danny Delcambre How about CMOS and CCD? I don't know any user like CMOS or CCD?? I think old 645 was CCD. I am not sure about 645D. pardon? Was that supposed to make sense? The old 645 was a film camera, there was no sensor (CMOS, CCD or otherwise)

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02-11-2010, 01:20 AM	#104
Deniz Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ankara/Turkish Republic Posts: 26	How come you guys can be so asure about the 645D. I think this new thing can be an upgraded version of the K-x. (Well, I hope it's not since I just orderded a K-x just a couple of days ago..)

02-11-2010, 03:05 AM	#105
Christopher M.W.T Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,689	Originally posted by Deniz How come you guys can be so asure about the 645D. I think this new thing can be an upgraded version of the K-x. (Well, I hope it's not since I just orderded a K-x just a couple of days ago..) Definately is the 645D, I confirmed it this morning with those responsible and other info that I cannot disclose.