645D is here ...

PeteyJ · 03-09-2010, 09:17 PM

I don't have 10 grand to spend on a camera when/if this thing comes to the states, but this thing has me excited. 10 grand for a MF camera is a damn good price, especially with those specs. I've never really been afraid that the Pentax brand would disappear forever, and now, the thought won't cross my mind at all for awhile.

lithos · 03-09-2010, 09:17 PM

The more I think about it, the 645D is pure Pentax:

* Inexpensive. Not "cheap," but not pointlessly overpriced.
* Especially considering what you get. It is, as far as I can tell, the first MF DSLR with dust reduction. Weather sealing. It's stuff that the other manufacturers haven't really bothered with, that doesn't (in the grand scheme of things) cost much to implement, but Pentax has been the only one with the balls to do it.
* In that sense, it's obviously true to the original 645's raison d'etre: a miniature field camera. It's inexpensive, tough, easy to use (it's got scene modes, for gods' sakes!) and compact.
* Students are going to love it.

There is, however, one thing that is very, very un-Pentax-like about it, something that takes bucks one of the grandest Pentax traditions and micturates all over it:

* The 645D will probably have best-in-class AF - WE'RE ALL DOOMED! THE END TIMES ARE UPON US!

Here's some food for thought:

Canon ID Mk IV Dimensions/Weight: 156x157x80mm/1230g (with battery)

Pentax 645D Dimensions/Weight: 156x117x119/1480g (with battery and 2 SD cards)

jsherman999 · 03-09-2010, 09:21 PM

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Some ruminations from the D3 camp ---> here.

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allill · 03-09-2010, 09:28 PM

Looks awesome, specs are there, just wish my wallet was, too. Glad to see our brand step up and above what has been expected.

ogl · 03-09-2010, 10:13 PM

SAFOX IX+ and cool specs for MF camera.
The first MF camera with 11 AF points....

ogl · 03-09-2010, 10:24 PM

The camera will initially be available only in the Japanese market....

Terzof · 03-09-2010, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by ogl

SAFOX IX+ and cool specs for MF camera.
The first MF camera with 11 AF points....

If there was SAFOX IX+, so where is the SAFOX IX?

K-7 successor, I hope

quarc · 03-09-2010, 11:15 PM

Isn't the + the colour temperature correction added for the K-7 ?

ogl · 03-09-2010, 11:19 PM

Google Translate

FAQ for 645D

It's important that pentax 67 system users can buy 645D - and use 67 lenses via adapter.

ogl · 03-09-2010, 11:36 PM

PENTAX 645D

Roberts · 03-09-2010, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by Terzof

If there was SAFOX IX+, so where is the SAFOX IX?

K-7 successor, I hope

I agree with you!

Roberts · 03-09-2010, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by quarc

Isn't the + the colour temperature correction added for the K-7 ?

I don't think that + in SAFOX IX must stand for the same as in SAFOX VIII

As I wrote on DPR: "This new SAFOX is "SAFOX IX + wide-frame autofocus system". I think that + stands for "wide-frame" to better fit to MF frame, and SAFOX IX (without +) will be in K7 successor."

deejjjaaaa · 03-09-2010, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by quarc

Isn't the + the colour temperature correction added for the K-7 ?

exactly, "+" should indicate that extra sensor is being used, intended to adjust the AF based on the ambient light

Roberts · 03-09-2010, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by deejjjaaaa

exactly, "+" should indicate that extra sensor is being used, intended to adjust the AF based on the ambient light

Yes, but SAFOX IX is new AF system and that extra sensor there is included already as standard and without need to put + in name. And this is why I think that + in 645D SAFOX IX+ stands for "wide-frame" as I wrote previously.

ogl · 03-09-2010, 11:58 PM

Ken Rockwell is some kind of id...t... I've never read before such sillest and funniest opus.
He is in hysterics.

Pentax 645D

He said that 1 AF point is better than 11, and 1-segment metering is better than 77.
Picture mode is no need. In-camera HDR is for amatuers. He forgot that 44*33 mm sensor is in various cameras on the market and there is no crop 1.0 in the world of 645 digital.

If you don't like to use it, don't use. It's easy.

Pentax' 33x44mm sensor isn't much bigger than 24x36mm; only 27% bigger

He-he...To put Pentax down, he uses linear dimensions...

I see no aperture or shutter speed dials. All I see is another confusing array of meaningless buttons that aren't going to help.
On the Pentax 645D, it looks like everything you actually need to do is only available via menus and stupid multi-function scroll wheels.

645NII had the best AF in MF world, for example.

03-09-2010, 11:44 PM	#491
Roberts Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Latvia Photos: Gallery Posts: 127	Agree Originally posted by Terzof If there was SAFOX IX+, so where is the SAFOX IX? K-7 successor, I hope I agree with you!

03-09-2010, 11:58 PM	#495
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Ken Rockwell is some kind of id...t... I've never read before such sillest and funniest opus. He is in hysterics. Pentax 645D He said that 1 AF point is better than 11, and 1-segment metering is better than 77. Picture mode is no need. In-camera HDR is for amatuers. He forgot that 4433 mm sensor is in various cameras on the market and there is no crop 1.0 in the world of 645 digital. If you don't like to use it, don't use. It's easy. Pentax' 33x44mm sensor isn't much bigger than 24x36mm; only 27% bigger* He-he...To put Pentax down, he uses linear dimensions... I see no aperture or shutter speed dials. All I see is another confusing array of meaningless buttons that aren't going to help. On the Pentax 645D, it looks like everything you actually need to do is only available via menus* and stupid multi-function scroll wheels.* 645NII had the best AF in MF world, for example. Last edited by ogl; 03-10-2010 at 12:13 AM.

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03-09-2010, 09:17 PM	#481
PeteyJ Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago/Cleveland Posts: 176	I don't have 10 grand to spend on a camera when/if this thing comes to the states, but this thing has me excited. 10 grand for a MF camera is a damn good price, especially with those specs. I've never really been afraid that the Pentax brand would disappear forever, and now, the thought won't cross my mind at all for awhile.

03-09-2010, 09:17 PM	#482
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	The more I think about it, the 645D is pure Pentax: * Inexpensive. Not "cheap," but not pointlessly overpriced. * Especially considering what you get. It is, as far as I can tell, the first MF DSLR with dust reduction. Weather sealing. It's stuff that the other manufacturers haven't really bothered with, that doesn't (in the grand scheme of things) cost much to implement, but Pentax has been the only one with the balls to do it. * In that sense, it's obviously true to the original 645's raison d'etre: a miniature field camera. It's inexpensive, tough, easy to use (it's got scene modes, for gods' sakes!) and compact. * Students are going to love it. There is, however, one thing that is very, very un-Pentax-like about it, something that takes bucks one of the grandest Pentax traditions and micturates all over it: * The 645D will probably have best-in-class AF - WE'RE ALL DOOMED! THE END TIMES ARE UPON US! Here's some food for thought: Canon ID Mk IV Dimensions/Weight: 156x157x80mm/1230g (with battery) Pentax 645D Dimensions/Weight: 156x117x119/1480g (with battery and 2 SD cards)

03-09-2010, 09:21 PM	#483
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237	. Some ruminations from the D3 camp ---> here. .

03-09-2010, 09:28 PM	#484
allill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 267	Looks awesome, specs are there, just wish my wallet was, too. Glad to see our brand step up and above what has been expected.

03-09-2010, 10:13 PM	#485
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	SAFOX IX+ and cool specs for MF camera. The first MF camera with 11 AF points....

03-09-2010, 10:24 PM	#486
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	The camera will initially be available only in the Japanese market....

03-09-2010, 10:45 PM	#487
Terzof Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Vietnam Posts: 45	Originally posted by ogl SAFOX IX+ and cool specs for MF camera. The first MF camera with 11 AF points.... If there was SAFOX IX+, so where is the SAFOX IX? K-7 successor, I hope

03-09-2010, 11:15 PM	#488
quarc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 182	Isn't the + the colour temperature correction added for the K-7 ?

03-09-2010, 11:19 PM	#489
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Google Translate FAQ for 645D It's important that pentax 67 system users can buy 645D - and use 67 lenses via adapter.

03-09-2010, 11:36 PM	#490
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	PENTAX 645D

03-09-2010, 11:46 PM	#492
Roberts Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Latvia Photos: Gallery Posts: 127	Originally posted by quarc Isn't the + the colour temperature correction added for the K-7 ? I don't think that + in SAFOX IX must stand for the same as in SAFOX VIII As I wrote on DPR: "This new SAFOX is "SAFOX IX + wide-frame autofocus system". I think that + stands for "wide-frame" to better fit to MF frame, and SAFOX IX (without +) will be in K7 successor."

03-09-2010, 11:47 PM	#493
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	Originally posted by quarc Isn't the + the colour temperature correction added for the K-7 ? exactly, "+" should indicate that extra sensor is being used, intended to adjust the AF based on the ambient light

03-09-2010, 11:51 PM	#494
Roberts Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Latvia Photos: Gallery Posts: 127	Originally posted by deejjjaaaa exactly, "+" should indicate that extra sensor is being used, intended to adjust the AF based on the ambient light Yes, but SAFOX IX is new AF system and that extra sensor there is included already as standard and without need to put + in name. And this is why I think that + in 645D SAFOX IX+ stands for "wide-frame" as I wrote previously.