Rumor: 5 new Sigma lenses

thibs · 02-22-2010, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by gnd

I know you said zoom, but I think this is quite amazing never the less.

Yep and that one is still OK IMO (although only a prototype):
K 8.4/2.8 Bird's-Eye

jogiba · 02-22-2010, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by gnd

I know you said zoom, but I think this is quite amazing never the less.

It produces circular image , I prefer my 6.5mm fish-eye for APS-C and 16mm F2.8 Sigma FF fisheye.

Nikon 220° Fish-Eye:

6.5mm fish-eye on K-7:
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsB5dtJTWz0[/yt]

15mm F2.8 Sigma FF fish-eye on K-7:
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMMCewXHdGs[/yt]

krtwood · 02-22-2010, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by Miserere

It's not optically stabilised. My guess would be $650-800. Any higher than that and it will be a tough sell for Pentaxians (and Canikonians for that matter). Priced around $700 I can see many Pentaxians reaching out for one, as well as Canon shooters willing to spend a bit more than their 85mm f/1.8 costs in order to gain 2/3 stop.

This is all assuming the IQ is as good as the Sigma 105mm f/2.8.

.

From dpreview:

"FLD elements are also used in the company's completely redesigned 70-200mm F2.8 OS, new 17-50mm F2.8 OS and 85mm F1.4, which has been attracting a lot of attention at the show. 'It's similar in concept to the 50mm F1.4 - it's bigger, heavier and more expensive than OEM lenses but achieves higher performance,' says Yamaki.

'We've made this for professional and advance amateur photographers,' he explained: 'we've tried to achieve better performance [than the OEM equivalents], particularly when using fully open apertures on the latest DSLRs.'"

Sigma planning interchangeable lens compact: Digital Photography Review

Well it isn't going to bigger and more expensive than the 85L, but I don't think he's talking about the 85/1.8s either. I was expecting $1000 but that sounds like >$1300

Cosmo · 02-22-2010, 04:02 PM

12mm

Widest rectangular wide angle.

jogiba · 02-22-2010, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by Cosmo

12mm

Widest rectangular wide angle.

The new SIGMA 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM has the same 121.2° angle of view (APS-C crop).

[vimeo]http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=9613704&server=vimeo.com&amp[/vimeo]

Quote:

new FLD glass the company has co-developed with glass maker Hoya

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10022210sigmainterview.asp

jezza323 · 02-22-2010, 06:16 PM

test shots test shots, pricing, pricing...lol

jms698 · 02-28-2010, 07:38 PM

The amount of interest in the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 (I want one too!!) sure goes to show what an opportunity Pentax has left lying on the table for so long. If only they had released an updated 77mm with SDM, or a 90mm Limited f/2.0, or any kind of fast new prime between 70mm and 200mm. So, now everyone buys from Sigma instead. Oh well. Pentax's loss...

eurostar · 03-01-2010, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by jms698

So, now everyone buys from Sigma instead. Oh well. Pentax's loss...

I for sure will not buy it... and I am sure many others, when the price will be disclosed...

24X36NOW · 03-01-2010, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by Mike.P®

That wont happen because they will just stop production of the older non OS versions to make the newer lenses. (unless you are talking about the used market).

Let's hope not; I'm not remotely interested in the new 70-200, for example, since they've reversed the direction the zoom ring turns (making it opposite everything else in their lens line-up I'm interested in) AND changed the position of the zoom and focusing rings (making THAT the opposite of everything else in their lens line-up I'm interested in). It annoys the crap out of me that they can't pick a f%$^ing standard for the location and function of the controls on their lenses, since I don't want every lens I pick up to be an adventure in "which ring is this?" and "which way does it turn?". They ruined the 24-70 HSM update in similar fashion (reversed the direction of the zoom ring), so they can keep THAT too.

24X36NOW · 03-01-2010, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by HawaiianOnline

Where's the damn 300-800 f5.6?

Damn straight! And where's the FF Pentax dSLR to go with it!!

24X36NOW · 03-01-2010, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

The 8-16mm is the APS-C version of the 12-24mm FF version.

12-24mm FF Pentax :
Amazon.com: Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX DG IF HSM Aspherical Ultra Wide Angle Zoom Lens for Pentax and Samsung SLR Cameras: Camera & Photo

Originally posted by Cosmo

12mm

Widest rectangular wide angle.

Originally posted by jogiba

The new SIGMA 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM has the same 121.2° angle of view (APS-C crop).

[vimeo]http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=9613704&server=vimeo.com&amp[/vimeo]

Sigma planning interchangeable lens compact: Digital Photography Review

Actually, the Sigma 12-24 EX DG HSM f 4.5-5.6 is the widest rectilinear @ 12mm, with a 122 degree angle of view. The 8-16 isn't quite as wide, but is probably the best they could manage. I imagine, however, that it will have quite a bit of distortion (based on what I've seen from posted images using APS-C 10mm rectilinear lenses) as compared with the amazing and almost distortion-free 12-24 EX DG HSM f 4.5-5.6, due to the compromises of the APS-C design (i.e., the FF register distance).

WMBP · 03-01-2010, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by Noisychip

85 mm 1.4 HSM (WOW!)
...
I don't know how long I've been waiting for an affordable AF 84/1.4 lens! This would be too cool!

Well, I hope it is affordable, because I would really like to get that lens, too.

Will

**anpqnguyen** · 03-01-2010, 11:32 PM

Wow the 85 mm 1.4 HSM is especially tempting. I hope it's under $600. But I doubt it will be.

Entropy · 03-02-2010, 08:54 AM

I was starting to consider a 70-200, but I'm definately going to hold off if an OS version is coming.

As far as zoom ring turn direction - I don't care, it takes me about 5 seconds to adjust.

WMBP · 03-02-2010, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by Entropy

I was starting to consider a 70-200, but I'm definately going to hold off if an OS version is coming.

As far as zoom ring turn direction - I don't care, it takes me about 5 seconds to adjust.

I'm impressed. You're either young and agile, or, um, just agile. One of the things I hate about some of my otherwise quite nice lenses—like the Pentax 16-45 and the Sigma 17-70—is that they zoom the "wrong way," that is, I have to turn them counterclockwise (from the perspective of my eyeball against the finder) to zoom out. I think zooms should all work the way ordinary wood screws work: clockwise turn means in, counterclockwise means out. Why can't the lens makers can't be consistent about this?

Anyway, it's a small problem for me. When I switch zooms, of course I get it right, but I find myself frequently starting in the wrong direction, then correcting myself. May be my old brain. One of the nice things about shooting primes is that I don't have to remember which way to turn the lens!

Will

02-22-2010, 05:32 PM	#80
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by Cosmo 12mm Widest rectangular wide angle. The new SIGMA 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM has the same 121.2° angle of view (APS-C crop). [vimeo]http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=9613704&server=vimeo.com&amp[/vimeo] Quote: new FLD glass the company has co-developed with glass maker Hoya http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10022210sigmainterview.asp Last edited by jogiba; 02-22-2010 at 06:07 PM.

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02-22-2010, 01:43 PM	#76
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by gnd I know you said zoom, but I think this is quite amazing never the less. Yep and that one is still OK IMO (although only a prototype): K 8.4/2.8 Bird's-Eye

02-22-2010, 02:27 PM	#77
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by gnd I know you said zoom, but I think this is quite amazing never the less. It produces circular image , I prefer my 6.5mm fish-eye for APS-C and 16mm F2.8 Sigma FF fisheye. Nikon 220° Fish-Eye: 6.5mm fish-eye on K-7: [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsB5dtJTWz0[/yt] 15mm F2.8 Sigma FF fish-eye on K-7: [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMMCewXHdGs[/yt]

02-22-2010, 03:16 PM	#78
krtwood Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NH Posts: 40	Originally posted by Miserere It's not optically stabilised. My guess would be $650-800. Any higher than that and it will be a tough sell for Pentaxians (and Canikonians for that matter). Priced around $700 I can see many Pentaxians reaching out for one, as well as Canon shooters willing to spend a bit more than their 85mm f/1.8 costs in order to gain 2/3 stop. This is all assuming the IQ is as good as the Sigma 105mm f/2.8. . From dpreview: "FLD elements are also used in the company's completely redesigned 70-200mm F2.8 OS, new 17-50mm F2.8 OS and 85mm F1.4, which has been attracting a lot of attention at the show. 'It's similar in concept to the 50mm F1.4 - it's bigger, heavier and more expensive than OEM lenses but achieves higher performance,' says Yamaki. 'We've made this for professional and advance amateur photographers,' he explained: 'we've tried to achieve better performance [than the OEM equivalents], particularly when using fully open apertures on the latest DSLRs.'" Sigma planning interchangeable lens compact: Digital Photography Review Well it isn't going to bigger and more expensive than the 85L, but I don't think he's talking about the 85/1.8s either. I was expecting $1000 but that sounds like >$1300

02-22-2010, 04:02 PM	#79
Cosmo Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 488	12mm Widest rectangular wide angle.

02-22-2010, 06:16 PM	#81
jezza323 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,421	test shots test shots, pricing, pricing...lol

02-28-2010, 07:38 PM	#82
jms698 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 133	The amount of interest in the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 (I want one too!!) sure goes to show what an opportunity Pentax has left lying on the table for so long. If only they had released an updated 77mm with SDM, or a 90mm Limited f/2.0, or any kind of fast new prime between 70mm and 200mm. So, now everyone buys from Sigma instead. Oh well. Pentax's loss...

03-01-2010, 12:41 AM	#83
eurostar Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albareto, Italy Photos: Gallery Posts: 819	Originally posted by jms698 So, now everyone buys from Sigma instead. Oh well. Pentax's loss... I for sure will not buy it... and I am sure many others, when the price will be disclosed...

03-01-2010, 05:47 AM	#84
24X36NOW Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CT, USA Posts: 498	Originally posted by Mike.P® That wont happen because they will just stop production of the older non OS versions to make the newer lenses. (unless you are talking about the used market). Let's hope not; I'm not remotely interested in the new 70-200, for example, since they've reversed the direction the zoom ring turns (making it opposite everything else in their lens line-up I'm interested in) AND changed the position of the zoom and focusing rings (making THAT the opposite of everything else in their lens line-up I'm interested in). It annoys the crap out of me that they can't pick a f%$^ing standard for the location and function of the controls on their lenses, since I don't want every lens I pick up to be an adventure in "which ring is this?" and "which way does it turn?". They ruined the 24-70 HSM update in similar fashion (reversed the direction of the zoom ring), so they can keep THAT too.

03-01-2010, 02:44 PM	#85
24X36NOW Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CT, USA Posts: 498	Originally posted by HawaiianOnline Where's the damn 300-800 f5.6? Damn straight! And where's the FF Pentax dSLR to go with it!!

03-01-2010, 02:56 PM	#86
24X36NOW Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CT, USA Posts: 498	Originally posted by jogiba The 8-16mm is the APS-C version of the 12-24mm FF version. 12-24mm FF Pentax : Amazon.com: Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX DG IF HSM Aspherical Ultra Wide Angle Zoom Lens for Pentax and Samsung SLR Cameras: Camera & Photo Originally posted by Cosmo 12mm Widest rectangular wide angle. Originally posted by jogiba The new SIGMA 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM has the same 121.2° angle of view (APS-C crop). [vimeo]http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=9613704&server=vimeo.com&amp[/vimeo] Sigma planning interchangeable lens compact: Digital Photography Review Actually, the Sigma 12-24 EX DG HSM f 4.5-5.6 is the widest rectilinear @ 12mm, with a 122 degree angle of view. The 8-16 isn't quite as wide, but is probably the best they could manage. I imagine, however, that it will have quite a bit of distortion (based on what I've seen from posted images using APS-C 10mm rectilinear lenses) as compared with the amazing and almost distortion-free 12-24 EX DG HSM f 4.5-5.6, due to the compromises of the APS-C design (i.e., the FF register distance).

03-01-2010, 10:18 PM	#87
WMBP Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,482	Originally posted by Noisychip 85 mm 1.4 HSM (WOW!) ... I don't know how long I've been waiting for an affordable AF 84/1.4 lens! This would be too cool! Well, I hope it is affordable, because I would really like to get that lens, too. Will

03-01-2010, 11:32 PM	#88
anpqnguyen Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 42	Wow the 85 mm 1.4 HSM is especially tempting. I hope it's under $600. But I doubt it will be.

03-02-2010, 08:54 AM	#89
Entropy Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Owego, NY Posts: 976	I was starting to consider a 70-200, but I'm definately going to hold off if an OS version is coming. As far as zoom ring turn direction - I don't care, it takes me about 5 seconds to adjust.

03-02-2010, 09:04 AM	#90
WMBP Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,482	Originally posted by Entropy I was starting to consider a 70-200, but I'm definately going to hold off if an OS version is coming. As far as zoom ring turn direction - I don't care, it takes me about 5 seconds to adjust. I'm impressed. You're either young and agile, or, um, just agile. One of the things I hate about some of my otherwise quite nice lenses—like the Pentax 16-45 and the Sigma 17-70—is that they zoom the "wrong way," that is, I have to turn them counterclockwise (from the perspective of my eyeball against the finder) to zoom out. I think zooms should all work the way ordinary wood screws work: clockwise turn means in, counterclockwise means out. Why can't the lens makers can't be consistent about this? Anyway, it's a small problem for me. When I switch zooms, of course I get it right, but I find myself frequently starting in the wrong direction, then correcting myself. May be my old brain. One of the nice things about shooting primes is that I don't have to remember which way to turn the lens! Will