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03-03-2010, 11:52 AM   #31
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QuoteOriginally posted by Entropy Quote
K-x starter kit is slightly less than a D3000 kit. For a while the K-x 18-55 + 50-200 kit was only $30 more than a D3000 18-55 kit, but the K-x has gone back up a little.

XSi kit is about the same price as the D3000 too.

(These are all B&H prices.)

So the K-x is already priced below the Canikon entrylevel units...
In Poland that is definitely not the case. My girl picked a Nikon D3000 last night over the K-x :-( but the K-x was about $200 more!! But then again she was a Nikon fan before i met her :-(

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In Poland that is definitely not the case. My girl picked a Nikon D3000 last night over the K-x :-( but the K-x was about $200 more!! But then again she was a Nikon fan before i met her :-(
And you are still going out with her?
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This all sounds like music to my ears. I have a K100D Super and I sometimes wonder about upgrading, but I think the K-7 is perhaps more advanced than I need, and also a little expensive for me. With many of the K-7's features perhaps being not so expensive anymore as they were a year ago, I think Pentax has spotted an opportunity, being able to provide some of them in a lower-end body.

IMHO, this so-called K-5 should have these features:

Adopted from the K-7:
- Body (with a top-LCD and weather sealing)
- Li-ion battery
- SAFOX VIII+ autofocus
- Rotational SR, allowing for horizon correction
- Pentaprism viewfinder (although this may be wishful thinking)

Adopted from the K-x:
- Shutter, providing speeds up to 1/6000
- Image processing
- Same number of fps
- APS-C sensor, maybe increased to 14MP (noise similar to the K-x)
- Movie mode (not that I need it, but if the K-x has it, so should the K-5)
- Colors! Not that I want them, but apparently they boosted K-x sales

Other wishes:
- More controls than K-x: two wheels (front and back), drive mode, dedicated RAW button, and please bring back the SR button
- AF points illuminated in the viewfinder

In other words, a K-7 Light. I think I'd buy this camera.

Speculating is fun. A waste of time, but fun .
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QuoteOriginally posted by starbase218 Quote

In other words, a K-7 Light. I think I'd buy this camera.
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That sounds more like a K-7 Super to me

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QuoteOriginally posted by starbase218 Quote
Speculating is fun. A waste of time, but fun .
Beats buying stuff, because then... well you're stuck with it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by starbase218 Quote
- Colors! Not that I want them, but apparently they boosted K-x sales
I'd go for an olive drab or camo body for birding.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
This camera will be this year.
Lower than K-7, but in spirit of K200D.
K-x body? K-7 body? Or a new body in between?

The dream would be K-x body but weather sealed...
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
This camera will be this year.
Lower than K-7, but in spirit of K200D.
I heard it's gonna be a K300D ...

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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
This camera will be this year.
Lower than K-7, but in spirit of K200D.
Pentax needs to finally unleash the K-9, which will tear up the competition.

Sorry, bad joke, couldn't resist.
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They need a completely new camera with better AF and ISO. Not add more crap to the pot.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Fl_Gulfer Quote
They need a completely new camera with better AF and ISO. Not add more crap to the pot.
I don't think ISO is really a problem with the K-x sensor...
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It would be awesome to see a 3 camera lineup again. My preference is to keep the kx and ditch the k-7 in favor of something a little cheaper (k-5?) and something truly high-end along the lines of D300s/7D OR 5DII. I actually see FF being more feasible for Pentax than 7D/D300s. Pentax's strength is in image quality and not wiz-bang technology. To compete with the high-end APS-C cameras they need some big technological breakthroughs (my k-7 falls to about 2fps when shooting action in AF-C) that upgrade is probably more expensive than building a FF camera
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I am hanging out for a high-end camera priced above the K7 with awesome amazing features that address some of the issues had. Fps don't bother me so much, but quick and effective AF with good handling of noise at high ISOs is pretty much essential.

I don't plan on moving away from Pentax (mainly because I love my 31mm too much) but sometimes I do wonder why I stick it out so...
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Regardless of what camera Pentax comes out with, I hope that they will support SDXC standards simply because the write speeds to SDHC cannot currently compete with write speeds of CF cards. The K7 seems to be able to shoot fast enough, but isn't able to empty its buffer quickly enough to continuously shoot competitively compared to similarly ranked DSLRs from other brands.
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@Starbase218: That's almost exactly what I was thinking.

A K-7 with AA batteries and lower-noise sensor like the K-x would be awesome as K-5.

I'm still hoping something higher than the K-7 though. Basically a K-7 in a K20D body (which
I prefer the design and find more ergonomic) but with the 100% viewfinder and automatic
horizon correction.

I'd really like to see though a leap in sensor-capabilities without going full-frame. Could they
not license the SuperCCD EXR from Fuji to give a modern DSLR some awesome dynamic range
or ultra-low noise? Would be nice if the technology scales to APS sized sensors.

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