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Biro · 03-06-2010, 11:36 AM

I wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the lens section... but earlier this week, while in a hurry, I thought I saw a rumor about a possible Pentax 28mm f/2.0 prime - or something like that. Now, I may have been dreaming or confused by my oft-stated desire for a cheap(er) fast Pentax prime in the 28-35mm range.

I seem to have only spotty results when I run searches on Pentax Forums. So, I'm just asking: Did anyone else see a post like this? I ask because, while I intend to begin collecting Pentax DA Limited primes, I still want something fast and cheap for low-light work. Since I still want auto-focus, I'm thinking about picking up the Sigma 28mm f/1.8. No, it's not a Pentax Limited but it'll do as a "normal" low-light item. Unless that rumor really exists.

If administrators feel this post should be moved to the lens section, no problem.

Miserere · 03-06-2010, 11:43 AM

The rumour exists, but that doesn't mean the lens exists.

Does a tree make a noise if it falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it...?

...

jptreen · 03-06-2010, 12:20 PM

The best way to work out is a Pentax rumour is true or not is to work out if it's

a) a reasonable idea
or
b) fulfilling a need in a timely manner.

If it's either of those things, you're bang out of luck. Alas, this 28/2 is a good idea and would be a timely introduction to the range. Draw your own conclusions...

Biro · 03-06-2010, 12:35 PM

Well, yes... if even the rumor is really out there it doesn't mean the lens will be built. And even if Pentax has plans for such a product, past performance would indicate it could be quite a while before it might appear in stores.

Normally, I tend to have patience but I really don't want to wait until something like Photokina toward the end of the year. There are too many images to take between now and then. I'm firmly in the Pentax camp but this is a classic example of how the company hurts itself. Even the faithful are beginning to run out of patience in certain areas. If they would at least give us an indication that something is planned, it would be a big help.

I'd love to stick with all Pentax glass but it looks like the Sigma 28mm f/1.8 will find a home in my kit.

oxidized · 03-06-2010, 01:23 PM

you do know that the FA 35mm F2 i still available on the pentax webite (more expensive than before, yet still no where near the 31mm ltd).

Duplo · 03-06-2010, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by oxidized

you do know that the FA 35mm F2 i still available on the pentax webite (more expensive than before, yet still no where near the 31mm ltd).

and you do realise that there is quite a difference between 28 and 35mm right:-)

CWyatt · 03-06-2010, 05:02 PM

If they do make a 28mm or similar I hope it's a f/1.4 or f/1.8... f/2 probably isn't enough to shift me from a f/2.8 zoom or other prime options unless it's small and quiet. Pentax is missing a super-fast standard AF lens and the only other real option is the big Sigmas, and the f/1.4 30mm isn't HSM for Pentax or I'd have it already.

GoremanX · 03-06-2010, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by CWyatt

Pentax is missing a super-fast standard AF lens

Pentax is missing a whole lot of stuff...

edit: but a super-fast normal prime is not one of those things. See the FA Limited 31mm F1.8 for example.

CWyatt · 03-06-2010, 11:04 PM

Not sure how I forgot about the 31mm...

It's expensive.. but then photography's not cheap, you pay for quality, so I don't really take exception to that. However, AF's not the best from what I've read. Not that it's not accurate, just a tad slow and noisy. Perhaps part of the old lens design, I'm not sure. But yes, that would be the single ultra-fast standard choice I know of.

MJB DIGITAL · 03-06-2010, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by Miserere

Does a tree make a noise if it falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it...?

...

I'm going to say no because I believe that 'noise' is what has been interpreted by the brain when sound waves hit the ear drum.

Now, if there are other animals in the area I believe they WILL hear the noise.

Whatya think?

thibs · 03-07-2010, 12:15 AM

Sigma 28/1.8 macro?
Huge and slow to focus but vert useful on aps-c.

Jasvox · 03-07-2010, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by MJB DIGITAL

I'm going to say no because I believe that 'noise' is what has been interpreted by the brain when sound waves hit the ear drum.

Now, if there are other animals in the area I believe they WILL hear the noise.

Whatya think?

Noise happens whether you experience it or not. If the tree fell and never landed, that may be reason for suspicion though. Perpetually falling.

Jason

lithos · 03-07-2010, 02:21 AM

Originally posted by GoremanX

Pentax is missing a whole lot of stuff...

edit: but a super-fast normal prime is not one of those things. See the FA Limited 31mm F1.8 for example.

f1.8 is fast?

I'm sure we'll get an ultra-compact f4.2 27.3mm (or some other weird bunch o' numbers) made from aluminium, labeled as a Limited, and available for the low, low price of $980US RRP.

cezarL · 03-07-2010, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by Biro

earlier this week, while in a hurry, I thought I saw a rumor about a possible Pentax 28mm f/2.0 prime - or something like that. Now, I may have been dreaming or confused by my oft-stated desire for a cheap(er) fast Pentax prime in the 28-35mm range.

I assume you were referring to this thread:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/89786-645d-k-m2-new-le...ive-motor.html

If so, then... I wouldn't want to spoil your party, but... recently (before PMA) the same magazine published some 'predictions' (they are only making predictions, which are not based on leaks or anything like that) about what Sony's next cameras will be. Needless to say, PMA showed that they were waaaay off. So I wouldn't really expect their Pentax lens-related predictions to become reality.

TheTenaciousOne · 03-07-2010, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by MJB DIGITAL

I'm going to say no because I believe that 'noise' is what has been interpreted by the brain when sound waves hit the ear drum.

Now, if there are other animals in the area I believe they WILL hear the noise.

Whatya think?

Well technically the noise from a tree falling is just energy being imparted due to the tree hitting things, so its not really due to interpretation, more just the air around the tree being vibrated in such a manner. Compare it to say, `i left a wallet on a table. If i come back and its gone, but i didnt see who took it, was it stolen?` tad different but same principles.

At the OP, personally i tried a 28mm M lens and the focal length just didnt do it for me. Would much rather my 40mm, maybe just a tad wider. I hear lots of people call it a perfect normal lens though so guess i might be alone here

03-06-2010, 11:36 AM	#1
Biro Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,200	Pentax 28mm: Am I Dreaming? I wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the lens section... but earlier this week, while in a hurry, I thought I saw a rumor about a possible Pentax 28mm f/2.0 prime - or something like that. Now, I may have been dreaming or confused by my oft-stated desire for a cheap(er) fast Pentax prime in the 28-35mm range. I seem to have only spotty results when I run searches on Pentax Forums. So, I'm just asking: Did anyone else see a post like this? I ask because, while I intend to begin collecting Pentax DA Limited primes, I still want something fast and cheap for low-light work. Since I still want auto-focus, I'm thinking about picking up the Sigma 28mm f/1.8. No, it's not a Pentax Limited but it'll do as a "normal" low-light item. Unless that rumor really exists. If administrators feel this post should be moved to the lens section, no problem.

03-06-2010, 10:48 PM	#8
GoremanX Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Georgia, VT Photos: Albums Posts: 1,657	Originally posted by CWyatt Pentax is missing a super-fast standard AF lens Pentax is missing a whole lot of stuff... edit: but a super-fast normal prime is not one of those things. See the FA Limited 31mm F1.8 for example. Last edited by GoremanX; 03-06-2010 at 11:00 PM.

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03-06-2010, 11:43 AM	#2
Miserere Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Boston Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,993	The rumour exists, but that doesn't mean the lens exists. Does a tree make a noise if it falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it...? ...

03-06-2010, 12:20 PM	#3
jptreen Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: "around" Posts: 116	The best way to work out is a Pentax rumour is true or not is to work out if it's a) a reasonable idea or b) fulfilling a need in a timely manner. If it's either of those things, you're bang out of luck. Alas, this 28/2 is a good idea and would be a timely introduction to the range. Draw your own conclusions...

03-06-2010, 12:35 PM	#4
Biro Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,200 Original Poster	Well, yes... if even the rumor is really out there it doesn't mean the lens will be built. And even if Pentax has plans for such a product, past performance would indicate it could be quite a while before it might appear in stores. Normally, I tend to have patience but I really don't want to wait until something like Photokina toward the end of the year. There are too many images to take between now and then. I'm firmly in the Pentax camp but this is a classic example of how the company hurts itself. Even the faithful are beginning to run out of patience in certain areas. If they would at least give us an indication that something is planned, it would be a big help. I'd love to stick with all Pentax glass but it looks like the Sigma 28mm f/1.8 will find a home in my kit.

03-06-2010, 01:23 PM	#5
oxidized Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA - Delaware Photos: Albums Posts: 435	you do know that the FA 35mm F2 i still available on the pentax webite (more expensive than before, yet still no where near the 31mm ltd).

03-06-2010, 02:52 PM	#6
Duplo Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Copenhagen Photos: Gallery Posts: 924	Originally posted by oxidized you do know that the FA 35mm F2 i still available on the pentax webite (more expensive than before, yet still no where near the 31mm ltd). and you do realise that there is quite a difference between 28 and 35mm right:-)

03-06-2010, 05:02 PM	#7
CWyatt Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,291	If they do make a 28mm or similar I hope it's a f/1.4 or f/1.8... f/2 probably isn't enough to shift me from a f/2.8 zoom or other prime options unless it's small and quiet. Pentax is missing a super-fast standard AF lens and the only other real option is the big Sigmas, and the f/1.4 30mm isn't HSM for Pentax or I'd have it already.

03-06-2010, 11:04 PM	#9
CWyatt Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,291	Not sure how I forgot about the 31mm... It's expensive.. but then photography's not cheap, you pay for quality, so I don't really take exception to that. However, AF's not the best from what I've read. Not that it's not accurate, just a tad slow and noisy. Perhaps part of the old lens design, I'm not sure. But yes, that would be the single ultra-fast standard choice I know of.

03-06-2010, 11:36 PM	#10
MJB DIGITAL Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: st. louis Posts: 1,170	Originally posted by Miserere Does a tree make a noise if it falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it...? ... I'm going to say no because I believe that 'noise' is what has been interpreted by the brain when sound waves hit the ear drum. Now, if there are other animals in the area I believe they WILL hear the noise. Whatya think?

03-07-2010, 12:15 AM	#11
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Sigma 28/1.8 macro? Huge and slow to focus but vert useful on aps-c.

03-07-2010, 01:10 AM	#12
Jasvox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,107	Originally posted by MJB DIGITAL I'm going to say no because I believe that 'noise' is what has been interpreted by the brain when sound waves hit the ear drum. Now, if there are other animals in the area I believe they WILL hear the noise. Whatya think? Noise happens whether you experience it or not. If the tree fell and never landed, that may be reason for suspicion though. Perpetually falling. Jason

03-07-2010, 02:21 AM	#13
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	Originally posted by GoremanX Pentax is missing a whole lot of stuff... edit: but a super-fast normal prime is not one of those things. See the FA Limited 31mm F1.8 for example. f1.8 is fast? I'm sure we'll get an ultra-compact f4.2 27.3mm (or some other weird bunch o' numbers) made from aluminium, labeled as a Limited, and available for the low, low price of $980US RRP.

03-07-2010, 02:39 AM	#14
cezarL Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Romania Posts: 97	Originally posted by Biro earlier this week, while in a hurry, I thought I saw a rumor about a possible Pentax 28mm f/2.0 prime - or something like that. Now, I may have been dreaming or confused by my oft-stated desire for a cheap(er) fast Pentax prime in the 28-35mm range. I assume you were referring to this thread: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/89786-645d-k-m2-new-le...ive-motor.html If so, then... I wouldn't want to spoil your party, but... recently (before PMA) the same magazine published some 'predictions' (they are only making predictions, which are not based on leaks or anything like that) about what Sony's next cameras will be. Needless to say, PMA showed that they were waaaay off. So I wouldn't really expect their Pentax lens-related predictions to become reality.

03-07-2010, 08:23 AM	#15
TheTenaciousOne Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Adelaide, SA, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 111	Originally posted by MJB DIGITAL I'm going to say no because I believe that 'noise' is what has been interpreted by the brain when sound waves hit the ear drum. Now, if there are other animals in the area I believe they WILL hear the noise. Whatya think? Well technically the noise from a tree falling is just energy being imparted due to the tree hitting things, so its not really due to interpretation, more just the air around the tree being vibrated in such a manner. Compare it to say, `i left a wallet on a table. If i come back and its gone, but i didnt see who took it, was it stolen?` tad different but same principles. At the OP, personally i tried a 28mm M lens and the focal length just didnt do it for me. Would much rather my 40mm, maybe just a tad wider. I hear lots of people call it a perfect normal lens though so guess i might be alone here

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