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lesmore49 · 03-14-2010, 01:39 PM

I read awhile ago that there maybe a Pentax 10-16 mm wide angle coming out for it's ASP-C digital SLR's.

This 10-16mm would be a extreme wide angle, not a fisheye, like the Pentax 10-17mm , which I have.

Has anyone heard / read anymore about the possibility of such a lens coming out ?

I wonder, if it does come out, what the price category it would be in, when it would come out...what F stop..ie; F 4, F 3.5, F 2.8, etc. ?

quarc · 03-14-2010, 01:52 PM

I think this rumour is purely based on the fact Tokina has the 11-16 for Nikon and Canon and people are hoping Pentax has access to it as well. Since it has not already been introduced I assume the 11-16 is pure Tokina technology and Pentax has no plans. Possibly Pentax has their own design in the making.

LeDave · 03-14-2010, 01:57 PM

Just because Tokina has it doesn't mean Pentax will have it. Tokina does not only buy Pentax designs and optics, but they also have their own designs they engineered from the ground up. I'm guessing that if it hasn't been released already, it's purely a Tokina design and Pentax did not have any part to do with it. Your best luck would be a DA* 12-24 or a Sigma 10-20.

emr · 03-14-2010, 01:57 PM

Sigma is also going to release a new 8-16mm f/4.5-5.6 lens in many mounts incl. Pentax.

Sigma goes ultrawide with 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC: Digital Photography Review

thibs · 03-14-2010, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by LeDave

Just because Tokina has it doesn't mean Pentax will have it. Tokina does not only buy Pentax designs and optics, but they also have their own designs they engineered from the ground up. I'm guessing that if it hasn't been released already, it's purely a Tokina design and Pentax did not have any part to do with it. Your best luck would be a DA* 12-24 or a Sigma 10-20.

But the argument, if logical, isn't always applied: the tokina 16.5-135 is Pentax design, never released by Pentax (Ogl found it if my memory serves me well).

This is a stupid situation, completely illogical but very... Pentax

lesmore49 · 03-14-2010, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by LeDave

Just because Tokina has it doesn't mean Pentax will have it. Tokina does not only buy Pentax designs and optics, but they also have their own designs they engineered from the ground up. I'm guessing that if it hasn't been released already, it's purely a Tokina design and Pentax did not have any part to do with it. Your best luck would be a DA* 12-24 or a Sigma 10-20.

The Pentax 12-24 in Canada costs around $ 1299 Canadian dollars(I know...unbelievable)...great lens...but that price !!

I tried the Sigma 10-20 on my K10D...not a bad lens...at least the copy I tried, but I've heard / read on some threads, that some try a number or examples before they get a good one.

But I'm still thinking of a Sigma 10-20 mm F 4 version.

LeDave · 03-14-2010, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by thibs

But the argument, if logical, isn't always applied: the tokina 16.5-135 is Pentax design, never released by Pentax (Ogl found it if my memory serves me well).

This is a stupid situation, completely illogical but very... Pentax

Maybe they made it but decided they don't want it =/ Plus they did discontinue the 18-250 anyways, maybe they don't want people using one set lenses?

GoremanX · 03-14-2010, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by LeDave

Just because Tokina has it doesn't mean Pentax will have it. Tokina does not only buy Pentax designs and optics, but they also have their own designs they engineered from the ground up.

Actually, on the Tokina 11-16mm page, they clearly state that they based its design on the 12-24mm, which is in fact a Pentax-designed lens formula.

Itai · 03-14-2010, 05:18 PM

Pentax and Tokina both are part of Hoya the same company, so it's not like they can't have access to it. It is simply lack of interest or resources from Pentax.

- Itai
Neoluminance | Fine Art Photography by Itai Danan

flyer · 03-14-2010, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by LeDave

Plus they did discontinue the 18-250 anyways

The 18-250 was a Tamron design, rebadged for Pentax. Since Tamron stopped producing it, Pentax can't have it anymore.

GoremanX · 03-14-2010, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by Itai

Pentax and Tokina both are part of Hoya the same company, so it's not like they can't have access to it. It is simply lack of interest or resources from Pentax.

AAAAUUUUUUGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!! NOT AGAIN!!!!

Tokina is not part of Hoya! Hoya does not own Tokina!

D W · 03-14-2010, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by Itai

Pentax and Tokina both are part of Hoya the same company, so it's not like they can't have access to it. It is simply lack of interest or resources from Pentax.

- Itai
Neoluminance | Fine Art Photography by Itai Danan

The confusion started due to Hoya and Tokina are distributed by the same companies is some countries/regions. They are two independent companies

lesmore49 · 03-14-2010, 09:49 PM

D W

Retired commercial photog - enjoying shooting for myself again.
Hoping to see/shoot as much as I can before the eyes and legs gives way
1st Pentax SP500-1968

IInteresting thumbnail...I note your first Pentax...a SP500 in '68. I bought my first Pentax in '68...a Pentax S1a...still have...bought from Gambles Dept. Store in Winnipeg.

Furansu · 03-14-2010, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by lesmore49

The Pentax 12-24 in Canada costs around $ 1299 Canadian dollars(I know...unbelievable)...great lens...but that price !!

When you say "it costs around", you should say it costs 1299$ maxi.
If you're in Western Canada, you can find it at CAD 1050$ at Broadway Camera.

jogiba · 03-15-2010, 08:18 AM

I like my 10-24mm Tamron since there is a big difference between 10mm and 24mm. With the 8-16mm Sigma coming out for Pentax K mount I see no reason for a 10-16mm.

03-14-2010, 01:39 PM	#1
lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,350	Pentax 10-16 mm wide angle ? I read awhile ago that there maybe a Pentax 10-16 mm wide angle coming out for it's ASP-C digital SLR's. This 10-16mm would be a extreme wide angle, not a fisheye, like the Pentax 10-17mm , which I have. Has anyone heard / read anymore about the possibility of such a lens coming out ? I wonder, if it does come out, what the price category it would be in, when it would come out...what F stop..ie; F 4, F 3.5, F 2.8, etc. ?

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03-14-2010, 01:52 PM	#2
quarc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 182	I think this rumour is purely based on the fact Tokina has the 11-16 for Nikon and Canon and people are hoping Pentax has access to it as well. Since it has not already been introduced I assume the 11-16 is pure Tokina technology and Pentax has no plans. Possibly Pentax has their own design in the making.

03-14-2010, 01:57 PM	#3
LeDave Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Minneapolis - St. Paul Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,067	Just because Tokina has it doesn't mean Pentax will have it. Tokina does not only buy Pentax designs and optics, but they also have their own designs they engineered from the ground up. I'm guessing that if it hasn't been released already, it's purely a Tokina design and Pentax did not have any part to do with it. Your best luck would be a DA* 12-24 or a Sigma 10-20.

03-14-2010, 01:57 PM	#4
emr Guest	Sigma is also going to release a new 8-16mm f/4.5-5.6 lens in many mounts incl. Pentax. Sigma goes ultrawide with 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC: Digital Photography Review

03-14-2010, 02:17 PM	#5
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by LeDave Just because Tokina has it doesn't mean Pentax will have it. Tokina does not only buy Pentax designs and optics, but they also have their own designs they engineered from the ground up. I'm guessing that if it hasn't been released already, it's purely a Tokina design and Pentax did not have any part to do with it. Your best luck would be a DA* 12-24 or a Sigma 10-20. But the argument, if logical, isn't always applied: the tokina 16.5-135 is Pentax design, never released by Pentax (Ogl found it if my memory serves me well). This is a stupid situation, completely illogical but very... Pentax

03-14-2010, 02:47 PM	#6
lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,350 Original Poster	Originally posted by LeDave Just because Tokina has it doesn't mean Pentax will have it. Tokina does not only buy Pentax designs and optics, but they also have their own designs they engineered from the ground up. I'm guessing that if it hasn't been released already, it's purely a Tokina design and Pentax did not have any part to do with it. Your best luck would be a DA* 12-24 or a Sigma 10-20. The Pentax 12-24 in Canada costs around $ 1299 Canadian dollars(I know...unbelievable)...great lens...but that price !! I tried the Sigma 10-20 on my K10D...not a bad lens...at least the copy I tried, but I've heard / read on some threads, that some try a number or examples before they get a good one. But I'm still thinking of a Sigma 10-20 mm F 4 version.

03-14-2010, 04:25 PM	#7
LeDave Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Minneapolis - St. Paul Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,067	Originally posted by thibs But the argument, if logical, isn't always applied: the tokina 16.5-135 is Pentax design, never released by Pentax (Ogl found it if my memory serves me well). This is a stupid situation, completely illogical but very... Pentax Maybe they made it but decided they don't want it =/ Plus they did discontinue the 18-250 anyways, maybe they don't want people using one set lenses?

03-14-2010, 05:17 PM	#8
GoremanX Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Georgia, VT Photos: Albums Posts: 1,657	Originally posted by LeDave Just because Tokina has it doesn't mean Pentax will have it. Tokina does not only buy Pentax designs and optics, but they also have their own designs they engineered from the ground up. Actually, on the Tokina 11-16mm page, they clearly state that they based its design on the 12-24mm, which is in fact a Pentax-designed lens formula.

03-14-2010, 05:18 PM	#9
Itai Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Montreal Photos: Gallery Posts: 209	Pentax and Tokina both are part of Hoya the same company, so it's not like they can't have access to it. It is simply lack of interest or resources from Pentax. - Itai Neoluminance \| Fine Art Photography by Itai Danan

03-14-2010, 05:20 PM	#10
flyer Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ste-Anne des Plaines, Qc., Canada Posts: 2,013	Originally posted by LeDave Plus they did discontinue the 18-250 anyways The 18-250 was a Tamron design, rebadged for Pentax. Since Tamron stopped producing it, Pentax can't have it anymore.

03-14-2010, 05:21 PM	#11
GoremanX Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Georgia, VT Photos: Albums Posts: 1,657	Originally posted by Itai Pentax and Tokina both are part of Hoya the same company, so it's not like they can't have access to it. It is simply lack of interest or resources from Pentax. AAAAUUUUUUGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!! NOT AGAIN!!!! Tokina is not part of Hoya! Hoya does not own Tokina!

03-14-2010, 05:43 PM	#12
D W Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hogtown, ON, Canada Posts: 329	Originally posted by Itai Pentax and Tokina both are part of Hoya the same company, so it's not like they can't have access to it. It is simply lack of interest or resources from Pentax. - Itai Neoluminance \| Fine Art Photography by Itai Danan The confusion started due to Hoya and Tokina are distributed by the same companies is some countries/regions. They are two independent companies

03-14-2010, 09:49 PM	#13
lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,350 Original Poster	D W Retired commercial photog - enjoying shooting for myself again. Hoping to see/shoot as much as I can before the eyes and legs gives way 1st Pentax SP500-1968 IInteresting thumbnail...I note your first Pentax...a SP500 in '68. I bought my first Pentax in '68...a Pentax S1a...still have...bought from Gambles Dept. Store in Winnipeg.

03-14-2010, 11:56 PM	#14
Furansu Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 69	Originally posted by lesmore49 The Pentax 12-24 in Canada costs around $ 1299 Canadian dollars(I know...unbelievable)...great lens...but that price !! When you say "it costs around", you should say it costs 1299$ maxi. If you're in Western Canada, you can find it at CAD 1050$ at Broadway Camera.

03-15-2010, 08:18 AM	#15
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	I like my 10-24mm Tamron since there is a big difference between 10mm and 24mm. With the 8-16mm Sigma coming out for Pentax K mount I see no reason for a 10-16mm.

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