Pentax K-x the winner of AlphaMountWorld.com entry-level DSLR comparison

juu · 03-15-2010, 08:57 AM

Well deserved!

Article:
Entry Level DSLR- Features Comparison - AlphaMountWorld.com

ilya80 · 03-15-2010, 01:35 PM

Haven't tried the other cameras but I can sure say that I`m very satisfied with my K-x.

**kiwi_jono** · 03-15-2010, 05:19 PM

Why is the K-x so expensive in Pounds or is this a typo? Does not compare so well for pricing if this pricing is right.

Quicksand · 03-15-2010, 05:20 PM

I think everyone here would agree that the K-x is a feature-packed unit. But what surprised me about this chart is what some other manufacturers leave out from their entry-level cameras.

Really Nikon, no MLU or bracketing?

lithos · 03-15-2010, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by Quicksand

I think everyone here would agree that the K-x is a feature-packed unit. But what surprised me about this chart is what some other manufacturers leave out from their entry-level cameras.

Really Nikon, no MLU or bracketing?

Yeah. Sure, things like more AF points and whether they're cross- or straight-type, and a higher top shutter speed are changes that would take a bit to implement, but things like MLU and (wider) bracketing and in-camera RAW development cost virtually nothing to implement.

This is actually where Pentax's smaller range of cameras might help them: it would cost them more to make a camera that has less features than their top-of-the-line.

(And that on-camera flash as a wireless trigger is hilarious when Canon made a big stink about how their latest prosumer cams now had that feature; something Pentax has had for pretty much forever.)

Erik · 03-16-2010, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by lithos

Yeah. Sure, things like more AF points and whether they're cross- or straight-type, and a higher top shutter speed are changes that would take a bit to implement, but things like MLU and (wider) bracketing and in-camera RAW development cost virtually nothing to implement.

Actually, I'm sure the camera hardware is quite capable of performing these functions -- what they're doing is de-implementing them on purpose to cripple the low-end models and make people buy the more expensive ones. Sony is terrible with stuff like this, especially. I don't know much about their bloated SLR line-up, but I hear murmurs from the Alpha mount world that the old A200 actually has MORE features than its replacements (A230, etc...) because the Sony line-up has grown so much that the entry level now needs to be more entry level than it used to be (while still costing as much, natch)

Glad Pentax is one of few manufacturers that are only doing a minimum of artificial crippling. Speaking of which, where is Olympus in this comparison? I'm sure the e-520 would do fairly well...

MrApollinax · 03-16-2010, 03:19 AM

Rush2112 one of the contributing people for that article had posted this late last week:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/93565-pentax-wins.html

MrCynical · 03-16-2010, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by kiwi_jono

Why is the K-x so expensive in Pounds or is this a typo? Does not compare so well for pricing if this pricing is right.

Not a typo: since about spring last year Pentax overcharge to a ludicrous extent here in the UK. For example the DA 12-24mm is £960 ($1450 US).

Rush2112 · 03-16-2010, 08:37 AM

I wonder how well the K7 is going to do in another comparison article being worked on?

Just ordered my vertical grip for those times when I don't need to go lightweight or discreet. Find myself missing the larger size DSLR sometimes but the grip will take care of that bulk just fine. What a great camera the K7.

Carl

paulelescoces · 03-16-2010, 09:13 AM

Excellent news... on the price variation... I noticed that also.

I am located in Spain... and almost always is cheaper to have electrical items shipped from the UK... this is including pentax equipment where I have made multiple puchases. (K20D, 50-135)... seems however that the kx does not fit this trend... can actually pick it up for the same price in Spain..... and is just ridiculous compared to the US.

Pablom · 03-16-2010, 09:25 AM

I agree the K-x is an excellent camera but that chart comparison doesn't make much sense. to compete with the 1000d and d3000 Pentax has the K-m, the K-x should be compared to Canon 450d/500d and Nikon d5000

RBellavance · 03-16-2010, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by Pablom

I agree the K-x is an excellent camera but that chart comparison doesn't make much sense. to compete with the 1000d and d3000 Pentax has the K-m, the K-x should be compared to Canon 450d/500d and Nikon d5000

I agree 100% with you. The 1000D and D3000 are in a class below the K-x, IMHO.

MrApollinax · 03-16-2010, 10:08 AM

Is the Km still in production? If it isn't the Kx is the only entry level DSLR Pentax offers. I'm guessing that is the reason why. But you can spin it one of two ways:

1. The Kx as an entry level camera that out specs the other entry level competition for a slightly higher price (US).

or

2. The Kx is an entry level camera that can compete spec-wise with mid-level offerings from Cannon and Nikon.

kari · 03-16-2010, 12:07 PM

Well the K-x is arguably better than both the D5000 and the 500D as well. It's really the best value APS-C DSLR on the market by miles.

Price wise, in South Africa I paid R8500 ($1150) for the K-x 55-300 kit.
And it was $200 cheaper than the D5000 55-200VR kit too!

Rush2112 · 03-16-2010, 12:59 PM

For one main reason:

Kx and the other cameras in the chart are all near the same price in the US, give or take 10% body only.

Not the same in the UK of course, but is the KM in production there anymore?

03-15-2010, 08:57 AM	#1
juu Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 680	Pentax K-x the winner of AlphaMountWorld.com entry-level DSLR comparison Well deserved! Article: Entry Level DSLR- Features Comparison - AlphaMountWorld.com

03-16-2010, 08:37 AM	#9
Rush2112 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: RSM, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 505	If the Kx did so well here on this chart I wonder how well the K7 is going to do in another comparison article being worked on? Just ordered my vertical grip for those times when I don't need to go lightweight or discreet. Find myself missing the larger size DSLR sometimes but the grip will take care of that bulk just fine. What a great camera the K7. Carl

03-16-2010, 12:59 PM	#15
Rush2112 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: RSM, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 505	The KX was included in the chart For one main reason: Kx and the other cameras in the chart are all near the same price in the US, give or take 10% body only. Not the same in the UK of course, but is the KM in production there anymore?

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ilya80 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Saint-Petersburg, Russia Photos: Albums Posts: 410	Haven't tried the other cameras but I can sure say that I`m very satisfied with my K-x.

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kiwi_jono Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,437	Why is the K-x so expensive in Pounds or is this a typo? Does not compare so well for pricing if this pricing is right.

03-15-2010, 05:20 PM	#4
Quicksand Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Ohio (formerly SF Bay Area) Posts: 1,519	I think everyone here would agree that the K-x is a feature-packed unit. But what surprised me about this chart is what some other manufacturers leave out from their entry-level cameras. Really Nikon, no MLU or bracketing?

03-15-2010, 11:08 PM	#5
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	Originally posted by Quicksand I think everyone here would agree that the K-x is a feature-packed unit. But what surprised me about this chart is what some other manufacturers leave out from their entry-level cameras. Really Nikon, no MLU or bracketing? Yeah. Sure, things like more AF points and whether they're cross- or straight-type, and a higher top shutter speed are changes that would take a bit to implement, but things like MLU and (wider) bracketing and in-camera RAW development cost virtually nothing to implement. This is actually where Pentax's smaller range of cameras might help them: it would cost them more to make a camera that has less features than their top-of-the-line. (And that on-camera flash as a wireless trigger is hilarious when Canon made a big stink about how their latest prosumer cams now had that feature; something Pentax has had for pretty much forever.)

03-16-2010, 02:53 AM	#6
Erik Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 755	Originally posted by lithos Yeah. Sure, things like more AF points and whether they're cross- or straight-type, and a higher top shutter speed are changes that would take a bit to implement, but things like MLU and (wider) bracketing and in-camera RAW development cost virtually nothing to implement. Actually, I'm sure the camera hardware is quite capable of performing these functions -- what they're doing is de-implementing them on purpose to cripple the low-end models and make people buy the more expensive ones. Sony is terrible with stuff like this, especially. I don't know much about their bloated SLR line-up, but I hear murmurs from the Alpha mount world that the old A200 actually has MORE features than its replacements (A230, etc...) because the Sony line-up has grown so much that the entry level now needs to be more entry level than it used to be (while still costing as much, natch) Glad Pentax is one of few manufacturers that are only doing a minimum of artificial crippling. Speaking of which, where is Olympus in this comparison? I'm sure the e-520 would do fairly well...

03-16-2010, 03:19 AM	#7
MrApollinax Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,529	Rush2112 one of the contributing people for that article had posted this late last week: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/93565-pentax-wins.html

03-16-2010, 08:29 AM	#8
MrCynical Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 132	Originally posted by kiwi_jono Why is the K-x so expensive in Pounds or is this a typo? Does not compare so well for pricing if this pricing is right. Not a typo: since about spring last year Pentax overcharge to a ludicrous extent here in the UK. For example the DA 12-24mm is £960 ($1450 US).

03-16-2010, 09:13 AM	#10
paulelescoces Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Switzerland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 252	Excellent news... on the price variation... I noticed that also. I am located in Spain... and almost always is cheaper to have electrical items shipped from the UK... this is including pentax equipment where I have made multiple puchases. (K20D, 50-135)... seems however that the kx does not fit this trend... can actually pick it up for the same price in Spain..... and is just ridiculous compared to the US.

03-16-2010, 09:25 AM	#11
Pablom Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Usa Posts: 1,940	I agree the K-x is an excellent camera but that chart comparison doesn't make much sense. to compete with the 1000d and d3000 Pentax has the K-m, the K-x should be compared to Canon 450d/500d and Nikon d5000

03-16-2010, 09:48 AM	#12
RBellavance Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Near Montréal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,716	Originally posted by Pablom I agree the K-x is an excellent camera but that chart comparison doesn't make much sense. to compete with the 1000d and d3000 Pentax has the K-m, the K-x should be compared to Canon 450d/500d and Nikon d5000 I agree 100% with you. The 1000D and D3000 are in a class below the K-x, IMHO.

03-16-2010, 10:08 AM	#13
MrApollinax Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,529	Is the Km still in production? If it isn't the Kx is the only entry level DSLR Pentax offers. I'm guessing that is the reason why. But you can spin it one of two ways: 1. The Kx as an entry level camera that out specs the other entry level competition for a slightly higher price (US). or 2. The Kx is an entry level camera that can compete spec-wise with mid-level offerings from Cannon and Nikon.

03-16-2010, 12:07 PM	#14
kari Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 142	Well the K-x is arguably better than both the D5000 and the 500D as well. It's really the best value APS-C DSLR on the market by miles. Price wise, in South Africa I paid R8500 ($1150) for the K-x 55-300 kit. And it was $200 cheaper than the D5000 55-200VR kit too!