The next lens

jct us101 · 04-12-2010, 02:17 PM

Am the only one here who wants something in the 18-105mm or 18-135mm range? I think that is something that Pentax has been missing for years, and now almost every other company has it.

Nubi · 04-12-2010, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by rparmar

You do know you are obligated to show us shots with that as soon as you can?

It's written down somewhere as the "bragging about great purchases" clause.

Oh, yes. Paypal'ed the dude already. He was also selling K10D and Zeiss 85 f/1.8 zk, which got sold. He still has 15 for sale. It coming from Berkeley, so 2-3 days max!

Blue · 04-13-2010, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by jct us101

Am the only one here who wants something in the 18-105mm or 18-135mm range? I think that is something that Pentax has been missing for years, and now almost every other company has it.

Some people have asked about a 28-135. There's the DA* 50-135mm.

jct us101 · 04-13-2010, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by Blue

Some people have asked about a 28-135. There's the DA* 50-135mm.

I don't really want a 28-135mm though, I had that for Canon and absolutely hated that range on a digital camera. I'm liking the idea of an 18-105mm more.

Caat · 04-14-2010, 01:46 AM

Pentax's DA lens line up is pretty much complete. I think the only lenses which I would like to see added are:

1) ~40-400mm f/4-5.6 SDM WR (I think a DA* version would be nice but would cost north of £1K

2) A replacement for the 18-250mm of some kind with SDM and WR

3) A telephoto macro between 150 and 200mm

Supertelephoto primes simply won't sell well enough in K-mount. I don't believe that there is enough of a market with Pentax's userbase for a 400+ lens. Perhaps a 400mm f/5.6 might be viable but anything longer I think would cost too much given the economies of scale which work against Pentax. The flexibility of a zoom increases their appeal amongst most users markedly.

starbase218 · 04-14-2010, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by Caat

2) A replacement for the 18-250mm of some kind with SDM and WR

Yup, this figures. You don't want to change lenses while it's raining cats and dogs.

gazonk · 04-14-2010, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by starbase218

Yup, this figures. You don't want to change lenses while it's raining cats and dogs.

Yes, a superzoom with WR makes a whole lot of sense.

I'm quite fond of the 16 mm end of my 16-45, so I would rather have something like the Tokina 16-135 than a 18-250.

Alternatively, if it helps keeping cost down and/or quality up (and makes making it WR easier?) I agree with "jct us101" that a 18-105 or 18-135 could be very interesting. Add close-focusing capabilities, and you have a perfect match for a possible WR camera body between the K-x and the K-7.

Mark D · 04-14-2010, 01:39 PM

Well I hope they come out with some FAST glass. A 1.something f stop would be nice. I'm fed up seeing f4 and f2.8 for their top of the line glass. (And preferably weather sealed )
Or just let Tokina release the 11-16 an 80-400 or whatever it is, in the pentax mount if Pentax aren't going to get round to doing it.
They need (very) fast glass in the 14 to 35 mm range and they need an Ultra Telephoto. It's a shame they have stopped offering the FA600mm this year. A weather sealed DA*600 would be a great addition to the line up.

Adrian Owerko · 04-14-2010, 03:21 PM

I think I would be happy to see any new lens from PENTAX.. They need more in the DA* line.. The DA line would be great with some great WR cheap primes like the FA 35 & FA 50..

dnaseigel · 04-14-2010, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by jct us101

Am the only one here who wants something in the 18-105mm or 18-135mm range? I think that is something that Pentax has been missing for years, and now almost every other company has it.

You are not the only one who wants this lens. In my store I get this request almost daily. It isn't just because Nikon and Canon each have an 18-135 lens, I also sell a reasonable number of the Sony DT 16-105 lens. Without that piece, it would be tough to sell much above the entrylevelest of alpha cameras.

I will join you in asking Pentax to make this lens range a priority.

raymeedc · 04-14-2010, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by jct us101

Am the only one here who wants something in the 18-105mm or 18-135mm range? I think that is something that Pentax has been missing for years, and now almost every other company has it.

This would be my primary zoom, especially if it was relatively small & light.

jct us101 · 04-15-2010, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by dnaseigel

You are not the only one who wants this lens. In my store I get this request almost daily. It isn't just because Nikon and Canon each have an 18-135 lens, I also sell a reasonable number of the Sony DT 16-105 lens. Without that piece, it would be tough to sell much above the entrylevelest of alpha cameras.

I will join you in asking Pentax to make this lens range a priority.

Exactly, when I think about why Pentax doesn't have it, I just wonder to myself why can't they see that its such a glaringly obvious hole in their lineup. I think this lens would sell so well if they made it too, and if they made it into a WR version, I think it could be Pentax's best selling lens of all time.

Caat · 04-15-2010, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by dnaseigel

You are not the only one who wants this lens. In my store I get this request almost daily. It isn't just because Nikon and Canon each have an 18-135 lens, I also sell a reasonable number of the Sony DT 16-105 lens. Without that piece, it would be tough to sell much above the entrylevelest of alpha cameras.

I will join you in asking Pentax to make this lens range a priority.

I agree - it's a very nice travel/walkaround lens that has a better chance of having better image quality than the 18-250s.

I really love my 16-50 2.8 but it's quite short for a lot of photography.

If Pentax wanted to get a lens out quickly they should work with Tokina on actually getting their 16-135 to market (was it that range? anyway the one Tokina announced ages ago)

Luin Gor · 04-15-2010, 04:05 AM

I want a DA* 24mm / 2.8, top quality from max aperture, and a DA 50mm / 2, as pancake as the 40mm, and not more expensive.

**rparmar** · 04-15-2010, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by dnaseigel

You are not the only one who wants this lens. In my store I get this request almost daily. It isn't just because Nikon and Canon each have an 18-135 lens, I also sell a reasonable number of the Sony DT 16-105 lens.

It certainly would make sense, but in line with other offerings it would be slower than the existing DA* zooms, lighter, not weather-sealed and perhaps not much cheaper, (since it covers a wider range). The DA55-300 is an example of a high quality zoom of the same class as any possible DA18-135. My guess is that it would be no faster than f/4. If it was a constant aperture it would still be quite desirable.

04-12-2010, 02:17 PM	#61
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	Am the only one here who wants something in the 18-105mm or 18-135mm range? I think that is something that Pentax has been missing for years, and now almost every other company has it.

04-12-2010, 05:47 PM	#62
Nubi Guest	Originally posted by rparmar You do know you are obligated to show us shots with that as soon as you can? It's written down somewhere as the "bragging about great purchases" clause. Oh, yes. Paypal'ed the dude already. He was also selling K10D and Zeiss 85 f/1.8 zk, which got sold. He still has 15 for sale. It coming from Berkeley, so 2-3 days max!

04-13-2010, 06:10 PM	#63
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by jct us101 Am the only one here who wants something in the 18-105mm or 18-135mm range? I think that is something that Pentax has been missing for years, and now almost every other company has it. Some people have asked about a 28-135. There's the DA* 50-135mm.

04-13-2010, 07:10 PM	#64
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	Originally posted by Blue Some people have asked about a 28-135. There's the DA* 50-135mm. I don't really want a 28-135mm though, I had that for Canon and absolutely hated that range on a digital camera. I'm liking the idea of an 18-105mm more.

04-14-2010, 01:46 AM	#65
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Pentax's DA lens line up is pretty much complete. I think the only lenses which I would like to see added are: 1) ~40-400mm f/4-5.6 SDM WR (I think a DA* version would be nice but would cost north of £1K 2) A replacement for the 18-250mm of some kind with SDM and WR 3) A telephoto macro between 150 and 200mm Supertelephoto primes simply won't sell well enough in K-mount. I don't believe that there is enough of a market with Pentax's userbase for a 400+ lens. Perhaps a 400mm f/5.6 might be viable but anything longer I think would cost too much given the economies of scale which work against Pentax. The flexibility of a zoom increases their appeal amongst most users markedly.

04-14-2010, 09:48 AM	#66
starbase218 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy, Universe Posts: 1,119	Originally posted by Caat 2) A replacement for the 18-250mm of some kind with SDM and WR Yup, this figures. You don't want to change lenses while it's raining cats and dogs.

04-14-2010, 10:55 AM	#67
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by starbase218 Yup, this figures. You don't want to change lenses while it's raining cats and dogs. Yes, a superzoom with WR makes a whole lot of sense. I'm quite fond of the 16 mm end of my 16-45, so I would rather have something like the Tokina 16-135 than a 18-250. Alternatively, if it helps keeping cost down and/or quality up (and makes making it WR easier?) I agree with "jct us101" that a 18-105 or 18-135 could be very interesting. Add close-focusing capabilities, and you have a perfect match for a possible WR camera body between the K-x and the K-7.

04-14-2010, 01:39 PM	#68
Mark D Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hertfordshire UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 44	Well I hope they come out with some FAST glass. A 1.something f stop would be nice. I'm fed up seeing f4 and f2.8 for their top of the line glass. (And preferably weather sealed ) Or just let Tokina release the 11-16 an 80-400 or whatever it is, in the pentax mount if Pentax aren't going to get round to doing it. They need (very) fast glass in the 14 to 35 mm range and they need an Ultra Telephoto. It's a shame they have stopped offering the FA600mm this year. A weather sealed DA*600 would be a great addition to the line up.

04-14-2010, 03:21 PM	#69
Adrian Owerko Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South Australia Posts: 435	I think I would be happy to see any new lens from PENTAX.. They need more in the DA* line.. The DA line would be great with some great WR cheap primes like the FA 35 & FA 50..

04-14-2010, 07:08 PM	#70
dnaseigel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rockford, IL Photos: Gallery Posts: 179	Originally posted by jct us101 Am the only one here who wants something in the 18-105mm or 18-135mm range? I think that is something that Pentax has been missing for years, and now almost every other company has it. You are not the only one who wants this lens. In my store I get this request almost daily. It isn't just because Nikon and Canon each have an 18-135 lens, I also sell a reasonable number of the Sony DT 16-105 lens. Without that piece, it would be tough to sell much above the entrylevelest of alpha cameras. I will join you in asking Pentax to make this lens range a priority.

04-14-2010, 08:16 PM	#71
raymeedc Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 951	Originally posted by jct us101 Am the only one here who wants something in the 18-105mm or 18-135mm range? I think that is something that Pentax has been missing for years, and now almost every other company has it. This would be my primary zoom, especially if it was relatively small & light.

04-15-2010, 12:44 AM	#72
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	Originally posted by dnaseigel You are not the only one who wants this lens. In my store I get this request almost daily. It isn't just because Nikon and Canon each have an 18-135 lens, I also sell a reasonable number of the Sony DT 16-105 lens. Without that piece, it would be tough to sell much above the entrylevelest of alpha cameras. I will join you in asking Pentax to make this lens range a priority. Exactly, when I think about why Pentax doesn't have it, I just wonder to myself why can't they see that its such a glaringly obvious hole in their lineup. I think this lens would sell so well if they made it too, and if they made it into a WR version, I think it could be Pentax's best selling lens of all time.

04-15-2010, 01:34 AM	#73
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by dnaseigel You are not the only one who wants this lens. In my store I get this request almost daily. It isn't just because Nikon and Canon each have an 18-135 lens, I also sell a reasonable number of the Sony DT 16-105 lens. Without that piece, it would be tough to sell much above the entrylevelest of alpha cameras. I will join you in asking Pentax to make this lens range a priority. I agree - it's a very nice travel/walkaround lens that has a better chance of having better image quality than the 18-250s. I really love my 16-50 2.8 but it's quite short for a lot of photography. If Pentax wanted to get a lens out quickly they should work with Tokina on actually getting their 16-135 to market (was it that range? anyway the one Tokina announced ages ago)

04-15-2010, 04:05 AM	#74
Luin Gor Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Paris Posts: 46	I want a DA* 24mm / 2.8, top quality from max aperture, and a DA 50mm / 2, as pancake as the 40mm, and not more expensive.

04-15-2010, 04:42 AM	#75
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819	Originally posted by dnaseigel You are not the only one who wants this lens. In my store I get this request almost daily. It isn't just because Nikon and Canon each have an 18-135 lens, I also sell a reasonable number of the Sony DT 16-105 lens. It certainly would make sense, but in line with other offerings it would be slower than the existing DA* zooms, lighter, not weather-sealed and perhaps not much cheaper, (since it covers a wider range). The DA55-300 is an example of a high quality zoom of the same class as any possible DA18-135. My guess is that it would be no faster than f/4. If it was a constant aperture it would still be quite desirable.