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04-14-2010, 05:29 AM   #76
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I'm just hoping for a mirror-less design.

That would be awesome!

04-14-2010, 05:32 AM   #77
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QuoteOriginally posted by feverbeaver Quote
Realistic I think:
- new 645D-Body: entry (less features and cheaper), 24x36 Sensor
- new 645-DFA lenses (1 Zoom and 1 Ultrawide)
- K-7 refresh (new sensor, same body, better LV and full manual video)
If you take 24x36 mm sensor is put it in a body with a mount other than K (e.g. 645) you will have effectively shot down all the users who have K mount full frame lenses. To me it seems like a rather illogical step.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Boris Quote
If you take 24x36 mm sensor is put it in a body with a mount other than K (e.g. 645) you will have effectively shot down all the users who have K mount full frame lenses. To me it seems like a rather illogical step.
You have 4 advantages with the 24x36 sensor in a 645.
- 645 for 3-5000$ (name it 645s), people with old 645 or 6x7 lenses who havn't the money for the 645D can buy a body. The new 645s users can upgrade to a bigger sensor if they like.
- more production of the 645D-body -> higher margin
- with 24x36 a shake reduction (SR) is easier
- new sensor but no need for a new body

6 month later you can put the sensor with SR in a new and smaller body with a smaller mount (K-mount) and better AF.

The K10D was a new body with new sensor.
The 645D was a new body (old electronics from the K-7) with new sensor.
All other new Pentax bodys of the last years used an old sensor (K10D -> K200 & K-m, K-20D -> K-7, *istD -> K100)
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QuoteOriginally posted by feverbeaver Quote
You have 4 advantages with the 24x36 sensor in a 645.
- 645 for 3-5000$ (name it 645s), people with old 645 or 6x7 lenses who havn't the money for the 645D can buy a body. The new 645s users can upgrade to a bigger sensor if they like.
- more production of the 645D-body -> higher margin
- with 24x36 a shake reduction (SR) is easier
- new sensor but no need for a new body

6 month later you can put the sensor with SR in a new and smaller body with a smaller mount (K-mount) and better AF.

The K10D was a new body with new sensor.
The 645D was a new body (old electronics from the K-7) with new sensor.
All other new Pentax bodys of the last years used an old sensor (K10D -> K200 & K-m, K-20D -> K-7, *istD -> K100)
You forget about the K-x, but I generally agree with you. On top of adding SR it would be also easy to use a CMOS sensor + Lireview to implement a true shift functionnality on the body.

The 645D is not that big compared to a D3s or a 1DsMKIII so, why not ?

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Who would buy the bulkiest FF camera on the market that lack support for all FF lenses made? And for 3000-5000 USD??

This is by a good margin the worst Pentax could do imo.
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The K-x uses the body of the k-m.

A 645 with 24x36 Sensor is not a FF Body!
It is a crop. Like 4/3. Because it is not a K-mount, it is 645 and 24x36 is a crop from 645.
It can support all FF-645-lenses and all 6x7-lenses. There are no crop 645 lenses.

The advantage is, it uses the technology for a future FF K-mount body.
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QuoteOriginally posted by feverbeaver Quote
The K-x uses the body of the k-m.

A 645 with 24x36 Sensor is not a FF Body!
It is a crop. Like 4/3. Because it is not a K-mount, it is 645 and 24x36 is a crop from 645.
It can support all FF-645-lenses and all 6x7-lenses. There are no crop 645 lenses.

The advantage is, it uses the technology for a future FF K-mount body.
Clear crazy idea. We need K-mount FF body, not 645D with small sensor.
It's absurd. No any need for any mythical technology for future FF body.

645D uses all APS-C technologies (soft, menu system, processor, battery) and has no any problem.

There are no any MF digital camera or backs with 24*36 mm sensor on the market

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QuoteOriginally posted by jct us101 Quote
According to my sources.

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You've got sources? laugh


j/k I sometimes wonder if places like BH and Adorama even have sources when it comes to Pentax, Hoya and Tokina!

sarcasm

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You've got sources? :laugh:


j/k I sometimes wonder if places like BH and Adorama even have sources when it comes to Pentax, Hoya and Tokina!

:sarcasm:
When did I say that? I don't think I meant to.

I get updates from 43rumors, but that's about it.
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Personally I'd like to see a FF with K mount at a reasonable price - ie pitched below the 5D Mkll.

All of my lenses are either old FF ones or DI ones that allegedly will work with a FF body.

I'd have to save up for it, but I would

(Otherwise I shall be saving up for the Canon . . . )
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Worthy Upgrades

What I would hope to see in the near future would be something of a professional line of Pentax cameras including either full frame or faster FPS (8-10FPS) and a more extensive line of Star class lenses. While I am planning to upgrade my K10D to a newer model I would love to shot faster and then get another camera to shot full frame. And if possible, maybe Pentax would produce another fabled 200MM Macro. As a person who used canon cameras like the 50D, 7D, 5Dmark2 and plays around with the 1DmarkIII and IV, I still love my Pentax and will go to no other. To see a profession line combined with a pro-sumer and Hobbyist line would be awesome.
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I've moved to Pentax 5 or less years ago from Minolta MD (oldies but goodies :-) - paperweight now :-( ) with the K10D release AND the K-mount compatibility status.
Since then I'm waiting for a FF "D700 killer" model... the ONLY pair body to the K-x.

Three steps are IMHO the future for Pentax:

1. Keep the body line VERY simple: a.645D, b. FF "D700 killer" and c. K-x with body upgrade in each model line.

2. Start re-producing new versions of good old lenses (esp FA's with DA improvements).

3. Open your software and wait for the community to respond... We will all be amazed...

Happy Milestone Pentaxforums
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When will they be announcing the new body and lenses?
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When will they be announcing the new body and lenses?
Nobody knows, but it seems likely that they will be announcing one or two new bodies at Photokina 2010 in September.
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And if possible, maybe Pentax would produce another fabled 200MM Macro.
That is a development i could get behind. I love macros.
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