Pentax at Photokina

HawaiianOnline · 04-14-2010, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by Adrian Owerko

I would like to see a cam with twin SD card slots..

Pentax already has a dual slot camera, you'll just have to go to Japan and pay $9,400 US for it...

Pentaxie · 04-14-2010, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Hey Pentaxie, you've just copied and pasted the exact same thing that I said in Post #28 of this thread. And I saw you do this to another person's post in another thread.

What's going on here?

Hi johnmflores,

I have read your comments and I do share the same line of thinking as you.
If you felt that I have copied your comments, then I am sorry.It is just that I do share the same thought as what you described earlier.

Have a Nice Day.

jct us101 · 04-15-2010, 12:43 AM

Why would Pentax need a camera with dual slots? The RAW files are fairly well compressed and I can get a lot of photos at ten megapixels or so just with a two gigabyte one. I don't really see what the need is for it.

Asahiflex · 04-15-2010, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by jct us101

Why would Pentax need a camera with dual slots? The RAW files are fairly well compressed and I can get a lot of photos at ten megapixels or so just with a two gigabyte one. I don't really see what the need is for it.

Three words: speed, convenience and safety

Speed: two cards can be written simultaneously.
Convenience: write RAW on the first card, the JPG's on the second card
Safety: write the same files on both cards. If one card fails, then the other is still working.

That's just a few of the many possibilities with a dual card slot.

**Rondec** · 04-15-2010, 04:06 AM

Often when two cards are supported, one of the card slots is a CF Card slot. I know that SD Cards are getting better and faster, but I wonder if Pentax will ever go the route of using CF Cards?

Ben_Edict · 04-15-2010, 04:30 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

Often when two cards are supported, one of the card slots is a CF Card slot. I know that SD Cards are getting better and faster, but I wonder if Pentax will ever go the route of using CF Cards?

I do not think, you will ever see again a CF card slot in a Pentax APS-C DSLR. Just takes too much space, considering that Pentax as ever. tries to make the smallest DSLRs. Also, the speed advantage would only be useful, if Pentax releases a camera that bring us something like 8 fps RAWs. And thirdly the memory size is big enough for my taste with 16GB. I never use cards above 8GB, which would already lose 300 shots, if it gets faulty or lost. I prefer to distribute my shots over sevral cards to minimize risk.

Ben

grcolts · 04-15-2010, 05:37 AM

As popular as the micro 4/3rds and smaller APC-S bodies like the NX10 maybe Pentax will release a new smaller mirror-less camera body that uses the K-mount.
I imagine it would be a very popular camera. Sony is coming out with their version this summer. Pentax has to have taken notice of the popularity of them. Who knows?
GR

Originally posted by jct us101

I'm curious whether or not Pentax usually releases any cameras during or around Photokina. If I remember correctly, the K-m was released just around then, so I'm not sure about any other ones.

If they do, what do you think they'll show us?

Oh, and when is Photokina this year?

gazonk · 04-15-2010, 06:04 AM

Originally posted by grcolts

As popular as the micro 4/3rds and smaller APC-S bodies like the NX10 maybe Pentax will release a new smaller mirror-less camera body that uses the K-mount.

What would be the point of a mirrorless K-mount camera? The whole point of mirrorless is to reduce the registration distance.

ghelary · 04-15-2010, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

Often when two cards are supported, one of the card slots is a CF Card slot. I know that SD Cards are getting better and faster, but I wonder if Pentax will ever go the route of using CF Cards?

I don't think that Pentax will ever go CF, they chose SD for the 645D. CF is often rated as "more professional", even if more capacity and speed are available on top of the range cards but the pins of the reader makes this tech fragile.

All in all, SD is cheaper and more reliable.

johnmflores · 04-15-2010, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by Pentaxie

Hi johnmflores,

I have read your comments and I do share the same line of thinking as you.
If you felt that I have copied your comments, then I am sorry.It is just that I do share the same thought as what you described earlier.

Have a Nice Day.

Next time, please click on the Quote button for my comment, then simply add "I agree" and Submit. That's acceptable behavior here. Thx.

lurchlarson · 04-15-2010, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by ghelary

I don't think that Pentax will ever go CF, they chose SD for the 645D. CF is often rated as "more professional", even if more capacity and speed are available on top of the range cards but the pins of the reader makes this tech fragile.

All in all, SD is cheaper and more reliable.

I wonder if that has anything to do with a "bigger is better" mindset. I mean if you were to take the average person who doesn't know anything about cameras, and ask who has the more professional equipment out of two photographers, One with a 250$ 400mm phoenix lens and the other one with a 40mm Pentax pancake, I wouldn't be surprised if most people would pick the guy with the 400mm.

I personally prefer SD cards anyways.

Itai · 04-15-2010, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Nerdold Nerdith

I'd like to see an ultra wide DA* lens. That's kind of a missing part in the DA* lineup. I think the last lens Pentax needs though is yet another mid range zoom. They already have the 18-55mm II, 18-55mm WR, 16-45mm, 17-70mm, 16-50mm, and I guess the 18-250mm. That's 6 lenses. That's a lot of mid range zooms for someone like Pentax who has such a small lineup. Another lens could be a longer DA limited, something in the >100mm range. Maybe like a 136mm or something, since the focal lengths usually don't make any sense.

Absolutely agree about the ultra-wide. I've been asking for a DA* 8-16mm F2.8 for a while but I'll settle for F4 if they have trouble making it F2.8.

Ever since I used the Nikkor 14-24mm F2.8 (full-frame) and later the Zuiko 7-14mm F4, I have been wishing we could get that wide with the quality to match on Pentax. We would actually only need a 9-16mm range but 8 is a rounder number

and Sigma announced the 8-16mm (I forget the aperture but is not constant) but that won't have weather-sealing.

- Itai
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ogl · 04-19-2010, 11:27 PM

I hope we will see new FF camera at Photokina and new APS-C camera a bit below K-7. And OLD NEW classical limited lenses.

gazonk · 04-20-2010, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by ogl

I hope we will see new FF camera at Photokina and new APS-C camera a bit below K-7. And OLD NEW classical limited lenses.

If and when we do see a FF camera, I hope the mid level camera won't be "a bit below" K-7, but rather a "K-7 Super". So the range would be 645D - "K-FF" - "K-7 Super" - "K-x Super". But I think they might need an EVIL camera as well, and that it may be more urgent than a "K-FF".

ogl · 04-20-2010, 02:03 AM

no any EVIL camera from Pentax this year

04-15-2010, 05:37 AM	#52
grcolts Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 70	Smaller APC-S Camera Body to Compete with Micro-4/3rds As popular as the micro 4/3rds and smaller APC-S bodies like the NX10 maybe Pentax will release a new smaller mirror-less camera body that uses the K-mount. I imagine it would be a very popular camera. Sony is coming out with their version this summer. Pentax has to have taken notice of the popularity of them. Who knows? GR Originally posted by jct us101 I'm curious whether or not Pentax usually releases any cameras during or around Photokina. If I remember correctly, the K-m was released just around then, so I'm not sure about any other ones. If they do, what do you think they'll show us? Oh, and when is Photokina this year?

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04-14-2010, 06:59 PM	#46
HawaiianOnline Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hawaii Posts: 613	Originally posted by Adrian Owerko I would like to see a cam with twin SD card slots.. Pentax already has a dual slot camera, you'll just have to go to Japan and pay $9,400 US for it...

04-14-2010, 09:21 PM	#47
Pentaxie Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kuala Lumpur Malaysia Photos: Gallery Posts: 429	Originally posted by johnmflores Hey Pentaxie, you've just copied and pasted the exact same thing that I said in Post #28 of this thread. And I saw you do this to another person's post in another thread. What's going on here? Hi johnmflores, I have read your comments and I do share the same line of thinking as you. If you felt that I have copied your comments, then I am sorry.It is just that I do share the same thought as what you described earlier. Have a Nice Day.

04-15-2010, 12:43 AM	#48
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793 Original Poster	Why would Pentax need a camera with dual slots? The RAW files are fairly well compressed and I can get a lot of photos at ten megapixels or so just with a two gigabyte one. I don't really see what the need is for it.

04-15-2010, 02:14 AM	#49
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by jct us101 Why would Pentax need a camera with dual slots? The RAW files are fairly well compressed and I can get a lot of photos at ten megapixels or so just with a two gigabyte one. I don't really see what the need is for it. Three words: speed, convenience and safety Speed: two cards can be written simultaneously. Convenience: write RAW on the first card, the JPG's on the second card Safety: write the same files on both cards. If one card fails, then the other is still working. That's just a few of the many possibilities with a dual card slot.

04-15-2010, 04:06 AM	#50
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,657	Often when two cards are supported, one of the card slots is a CF Card slot. I know that SD Cards are getting better and faster, but I wonder if Pentax will ever go the route of using CF Cards?

04-15-2010, 04:30 AM	#51
Ben_Edict Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SouthWest "Regio" Photos: Albums Posts: 3,309	Originally posted by Rondec Often when two cards are supported, one of the card slots is a CF Card slot. I know that SD Cards are getting better and faster, but I wonder if Pentax will ever go the route of using CF Cards? I do not think, you will ever see again a CF card slot in a Pentax APS-C DSLR. Just takes too much space, considering that Pentax as ever. tries to make the smallest DSLRs. Also, the speed advantage would only be useful, if Pentax releases a camera that bring us something like 8 fps RAWs. And thirdly the memory size is big enough for my taste with 16GB. I never use cards above 8GB, which would already lose 300 shots, if it gets faulty or lost. I prefer to distribute my shots over sevral cards to minimize risk. Ben

04-15-2010, 06:04 AM	#53
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by grcolts As popular as the micro 4/3rds and smaller APC-S bodies like the NX10 maybe Pentax will release a new smaller mirror-less camera body that uses the K-mount. What would be the point of a mirrorless K-mount camera? The whole point of mirrorless is to reduce the registration distance.

04-15-2010, 07:18 AM	#54
ghelary Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 613	Originally posted by Rondec Often when two cards are supported, one of the card slots is a CF Card slot. I know that SD Cards are getting better and faster, but I wonder if Pentax will ever go the route of using CF Cards? I don't think that Pentax will ever go CF, they chose SD for the 645D. CF is often rated as "more professional", even if more capacity and speed are available on top of the range cards but the pins of the reader makes this tech fragile. All in all, SD is cheaper and more reliable.

04-15-2010, 07:37 AM	#55
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by Pentaxie Hi johnmflores, I have read your comments and I do share the same line of thinking as you. If you felt that I have copied your comments, then I am sorry.It is just that I do share the same thought as what you described earlier. Have a Nice Day. Next time, please click on the Quote button for my comment, then simply add "I agree" and Submit. That's acceptable behavior here. Thx.

04-15-2010, 08:32 AM	#56
lurchlarson Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Oregon, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 681	Originally posted by ghelary I don't think that Pentax will ever go CF, they chose SD for the 645D. CF is often rated as "more professional", even if more capacity and speed are available on top of the range cards but the pins of the reader makes this tech fragile. All in all, SD is cheaper and more reliable. I wonder if that has anything to do with a "bigger is better" mindset. I mean if you were to take the average person who doesn't know anything about cameras, and ask who has the more professional equipment out of two photographers, One with a 250$ 400mm phoenix lens and the other one with a 40mm Pentax pancake, I wouldn't be surprised if most people would pick the guy with the 400mm. I personally prefer SD cards anyways.

04-15-2010, 05:04 PM	#57
Itai Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Montreal Photos: Gallery Posts: 209	Originally posted by Nerdold Nerdith I'd like to see an ultra wide DA* lens. That's kind of a missing part in the DA* lineup. I think the last lens Pentax needs though is yet another mid range zoom. They already have the 18-55mm II, 18-55mm WR, 16-45mm, 17-70mm, 16-50mm, and I guess the 18-250mm. That's 6 lenses. That's a lot of mid range zooms for someone like Pentax who has such a small lineup. Another lens could be a longer DA limited, something in the >100mm range. Maybe like a 136mm or something, since the focal lengths usually don't make any sense. Absolutely agree about the ultra-wide. I've been asking for a DA* 8-16mm F2.8 for a while but I'll settle for F4 if they have trouble making it F2.8. Ever since I used the Nikkor 14-24mm F2.8 (full-frame) and later the Zuiko 7-14mm F4, I have been wishing we could get that wide with the quality to match on Pentax. We would actually only need a 9-16mm range but 8 is a rounder number and Sigma announced the 8-16mm (I forget the aperture but is not constant) but that won't have weather-sealing. - Itai Neovoyage \| Explore, Experience, Expand your horizons \| Travel Photography Tours

04-19-2010, 11:27 PM	#58
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	I hope we will see new FF camera at Photokina and new APS-C camera a bit below K-7. And OLD NEW classical limited lenses.

04-20-2010, 12:48 AM	#59
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by ogl I hope we will see new FF camera at Photokina and new APS-C camera a bit below K-7. And OLD NEW classical limited lenses. If and when we do see a FF camera, I hope the mid level camera won't be "a bit below" K-7, but rather a "K-7 Super". So the range would be 645D - "K-FF" - "K-7 Super" - "K-x Super". But I think they might need an EVIL camera as well, and that it may be more urgent than a "K-FF".

04-20-2010, 02:03 AM	#60
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	no any EVIL camera from Pentax this year