The Ricoh GXR Club

cali92rs · 09-26-2012, 04:27 PM

If the GXR would come out with a K-Mount module, i would sell my K-5 in an instant. But some are speculating that Ricoh doesnt want to eat into the K-01 sales. IMHO, that would be a huuuuge mistake. I would like to get some indication that Ricoh was interested in sustaining and furthering the GXR before I invest in it. Photokina was not good on that front

SOldBear · 09-26-2012, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by ogl

As for me, 24-85 is not sharp...

My A16 24-85mm is sharper, albeit slower, than my DA* 16-50mm + K7.

ogl · 09-26-2012, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by SOldBear

My A16 24-85mm is sharper, albeit slower, than my DA* 16-50mm + K7.

Oh...dear friend, can you download some DNG somewhere...?
I think about this unit...But JPEG photos are not in my taste...I shoot in RAW.

The second question - is AA filter weak as in A12 or not?

ogl · 09-26-2012, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by cali92rs

If the GXR would come out with a K-Mount module, i would sell my K-5 in an instant. But some are speculating that Ricoh doesnt want to eat into the K-01 sales. IMHO, that would be a huuuuge mistake. I would like to get some indication that Ricoh was interested in sustaining and furthering the GXR before I invest in it. Photokina was not good on that front

K-01 is one-off camera.

SOldBear · 09-28-2012, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by ogl

Oh...dear friend, can you download some DNG somewhere...?

Here are some DNG files from the A16 24-85mm, nothing exciting however:

R0011168
R0011169
R0011170
R0011171
R0011171
R0011174
R0011176
R0011177
R0011178
R0011180
R0011183
R0011184
R0011186
R0011187
R0011188
R0011189

DNG files from the A12 28mm:

R0011098
R0011101
R0011104
R0011116
R0011121
R0011130

I'm just "borrowing" this space, and have to remove the files after a few days.

Originally posted by ogl

The second question - is AA filter weak as in A12 or not?

I have no clue.

ogl · 09-28-2012, 08:52 PM

Thanks a lot

Ohh....A16 is rather sharp. Of course, A16 has better resolution than A12. To say, honest 24-85 is outstanding zoom...Not too fast, but really cool.

GXRUser · 09-29-2012, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by Biro

I'm really struggling with this. I just gifted my K200D to my niece, along with the DA 18-55 WR, DA 50-200 WR and DA 35 f/2.4 lenses. That leaves the K-5 as my only Pentax body.. along with about a dozen lenses including most of the DA Limiteds. I was thinking about a K-5 II or a K-30. But it occurs to me that a GXR would make a perfect second "Pentax" body if a K-mount module (especially with auto-focus) were introduced. So I'm waiting for that to happen, especially after the hints we've seen from Adam. Given the fact that I also have a micro four-thirds kit, it's kind of hard to justify yet another "system." But if that K-mount module actually happens, I might not need micro four thirds any longer. And the P10 module might allow me to also dump my Canon SX230. I'm hoping Ricoh Pentax will come though. In the meantime, a GXR with A16 24-85mm module is awfully tempting. I handled the GXR for the first time at a Pentax event in New York a couple of months ago and just fell in love with it.

I bought a used GXR with P10 last January. I fell in love with it. It is the perfect travel camera... 28mm to 300mm equivalent with a macro focus function.

I sold my Panasonic LX5, Panasonic G1, GF1, Olympus PL1 and I have not looked back.

To use my two M-Rokkors and my Olympus OM lenses, I got the M Mount module.

My only regret was selling the G1. It's built in EVF is superb. That said, I found the button pressing to get in into enlarged focus assist was awkward. The one button access (either native or with button redefining with the Olympus) was much easier. It is very easy on the GXR and the focus peaking (focus assist) is superb with the GXR.

My dream is for the GXR to have a built in EVF (like the Nikon V1 or Sony Nex 6/7). That would make the body perfect for me.

I would also like for Ricoh to develop a K mount module with AF. I want to migrate to AF as I age and the "Limited" Pentax DA and FA lenses are nearly perfect for me. I am very satisfied with APS and I do not need a full frame sensor. In fact, I would be satisfied with a 1" sensor (the Sony RX100 and Nikon V1 are superb).

Maiku · 09-29-2012, 06:05 PM

I am a new memeber I just want to throw my two-cents in a say this camera system is simple the best for travel or if you have kids. Lens are amazing.

ogl · 09-30-2012, 03:06 AM

GXR is the best camera I ever used in my life (I had my first camera 33 years ago). The control's functions are made by cleverest engineer. The body is too cute and too solid...I'm in love with this camera.

Urkeldaedalus · 09-30-2012, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Thanks a lot

Ohh....A16 is rather sharp. Of course, A16 has better resolution than A12. To say, honest 24-85 is outstanding zoom...Not too fast, but really cool.

"The lens configuration has 11 elements in 9 groups. The use of three aspherical lenses (six surfaces) and high-refraction lenses effectively reduces various types of distortion across the entire zoom range. The result is high resolution and excellent contrast from edge to edge. In addition, the configuration of nine rounded aperture blades enables both highly precise aperture control and beautiful bokeh."

It's really a pretty impressive zoom from the images I've seen. I think it's the variable aperture that gives people the idea that it's a cheap zoom, which is a shame.

Urkeldaedalus · 09-30-2012, 05:39 AM

Originally posted by ogl

GXR is the best camera I ever used in my life (I had my first camera 33 years ago). The control's functions are made by cleverest engineer. The body is too cute and too solid...I'm in love with this camera.

Glad you like it! I'm hoping they refresh the A12 prime units with the 16 mp Sony sensor because that A12 28 mm is also one of my favorite lenses/camera combos ever and I need to replace my broken lensor unit

Urkeldaedalus · 09-30-2012, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by cali92rs

If the GXR would come out with a K-Mount module, i would sell my K-5 in an instant. But some are speculating that Ricoh doesnt want to eat into the K-01 sales. IMHO, that would be a huuuuge mistake. I would like to get some indication that Ricoh was interested in sustaining and furthering the GXR before I invest in it. Photokina was not good on that front

Ricoh GXR A16 Kmount unit + DA15 Limited = an awesome walkaround camera. Even if you couldn't autofocus on the K-mount module I'd just use zone focusing plus the GXR snapshot for streetshooting.

Urkeldaedalus · 09-30-2012, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by Maiku

I am a new memeber I just want to throw my two-cents in a say this camera system is simple the best for travel or if you have kids. Lens are amazing.

Hello Maiku! Welcome to the thread and the forum.

ogl · 09-30-2012, 06:40 AM

Originally posted by Urkeldaedalus

It's really a pretty impressive zoom from the images I've seen. I think it's the variable aperture that gives people the idea that it's a cheap zoom, which is a shame.

A16 24-85 is sharp like prime...IMO. It's surprise for me...It seems to me the module has no AA filter or AA filter is very weak. I see some moire on curtains.
Somebody dislike moire. But I like sharpness.

As for K-mount. I'm afraid GXR could lose the compactness with such module.

Urkeldaedalus · 09-30-2012, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by ogl

A16 24-85 is sharp like prime...IMO. It's surprise for me...It seems to me the module has no AA filter or AA filter is very weak. I see some moire on curtains.
Somebody dislike moire. But I like sharpness.

As for K-mount. I'm afraid GXR could lose the compactness with such module.

I believe you are correct about the lack of an AA filter. I referenced that in an earlier post when I posted this image (also some nice bokeh. Makes you wish it was an f/2.8 but that might have been expensive/huge)
http://www.ricoh.com/r_dc/gxr/img/sample_34.jpg

I also agree the K-mount module would make the GXR a bit bulkier as I'm imagining it would have to be built out a little bit to accommodate the K-mount. But like the Sony RX1, this would just mean it would be portable without being pocketable.

09-28-2012, 08:52 PM	#276
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Thanks a lot Ohh....A16 is rather sharp. Of course, A16 has better resolution than A12. To say, honest 24-85 is outstanding zoom...Not too fast, but really cool. Last edited by ogl; 09-29-2012 at 06:54 AM.

09-29-2012, 09:49 AM	#277
GXRUser Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 165	GXR is the solution Originally posted by Biro I'm really struggling with this. I just gifted my K200D to my niece, along with the DA 18-55 WR, DA 50-200 WR and DA 35 f/2.4 lenses. That leaves the K-5 as my only Pentax body.. along with about a dozen lenses including most of the DA Limiteds. I was thinking about a K-5 II or a K-30. But it occurs to me that a GXR would make a perfect second "Pentax" body if a K-mount module (especially with auto-focus) were introduced. So I'm waiting for that to happen, especially after the hints we've seen from Adam. Given the fact that I also have a micro four-thirds kit, it's kind of hard to justify yet another "system." But if that K-mount module actually happens, I might not need micro four thirds any longer. And the P10 module might allow me to also dump my Canon SX230. I'm hoping Ricoh Pentax will come though. In the meantime, a GXR with A16 24-85mm module is awfully tempting. I handled the GXR for the first time at a Pentax event in New York a couple of months ago and just fell in love with it. I bought a used GXR with P10 last January. I fell in love with it. It is the perfect travel camera... 28mm to 300mm equivalent with a macro focus function. I sold my Panasonic LX5, Panasonic G1, GF1, Olympus PL1 and I have not looked back. To use my two M-Rokkors and my Olympus OM lenses, I got the M Mount module. My only regret was selling the G1. It's built in EVF is superb. That said, I found the button pressing to get in into enlarged focus assist was awkward. The one button access (either native or with button redefining with the Olympus) was much easier. It is very easy on the GXR and the focus peaking (focus assist) is superb with the GXR. My dream is for the GXR to have a built in EVF (like the Nikon V1 or Sony Nex 6/7). That would make the body perfect for me. I would also like for Ricoh to develop a K mount module with AF. I want to migrate to AF as I age and the "Limited" Pentax DA and FA lenses are nearly perfect for me. I am very satisfied with APS and I do not need a full frame sensor. In fact, I would be satisfied with a 1" sensor (the Sony RX100 and Nikon V1 are superb).

09-30-2012, 03:06 AM	#279
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	GXR is the best camera I ever used in my life (I had my first camera 33 years ago). The control's functions are made by cleverest engineer. The body is too cute and too solid...I'm in love with this camera. Last edited by ogl; 09-30-2012 at 03:17 AM.

09-30-2012, 06:40 AM	#284
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Urkeldaedalus It's really a pretty impressive zoom from the images I've seen. I think it's the variable aperture that gives people the idea that it's a cheap zoom, which is a shame. A16 24-85 is sharp like prime...IMO. It's surprise for me...It seems to me the module has no AA filter or AA filter is very weak. I see some moire on curtains. Somebody dislike moire. But I like sharpness. As for K-mount. I'm afraid GXR could lose the compactness with such module. Last edited by ogl; 09-30-2012 at 06:48 AM.

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09-26-2012, 04:27 PM	#271
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	If the GXR would come out with a K-Mount module, i would sell my K-5 in an instant. But some are speculating that Ricoh doesnt want to eat into the K-01 sales. IMHO, that would be a huuuuge mistake. I would like to get some indication that Ricoh was interested in sustaining and furthering the GXR before I invest in it. Photokina was not good on that front

09-26-2012, 04:57 PM	#272
SOldBear Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alameda, CA Posts: 3,206	Originally posted by ogl As for me, 24-85 is not sharp... My A16 24-85mm is sharper, albeit slower, than my DA* 16-50mm + K7.

09-26-2012, 11:37 PM	#273
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by SOldBear My A16 24-85mm is sharper, albeit slower, than my DA* 16-50mm + K7. Oh...dear friend, can you download some DNG somewhere...? I think about this unit...But JPEG photos are not in my taste...I shoot in RAW. The second question - is AA filter weak as in A12 or not?

09-26-2012, 11:38 PM	#274
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by cali92rs If the GXR would come out with a K-Mount module, i would sell my K-5 in an instant. But some are speculating that Ricoh doesnt want to eat into the K-01 sales. IMHO, that would be a huuuuge mistake. I would like to get some indication that Ricoh was interested in sustaining and furthering the GXR before I invest in it. Photokina was not good on that front K-01 is one-off camera.

09-28-2012, 01:02 PM	#275
SOldBear Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alameda, CA Posts: 3,206	Originally posted by ogl Oh...dear friend, can you download some DNG somewhere...? Here are some DNG files from the A16 24-85mm, nothing exciting however: R0011168 R0011169 R0011170 R0011171 R0011171 R0011174 R0011176 R0011177 R0011178 R0011180 R0011183 R0011184 R0011186 R0011187 R0011188 R0011189 DNG files from the A12 28mm: R0011098 R0011101 R0011104 R0011116 R0011121 R0011130 I'm just "borrowing" this space, and have to remove the files after a few days. Originally posted by ogl The second question - is AA filter weak as in A12 or not? I have no clue.

09-29-2012, 06:05 PM	#278
Maiku New Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 4	I am a new memeber I just want to throw my two-cents in a say this camera system is simple the best for travel or if you have kids. Lens are amazing.

09-30-2012, 05:36 AM	#280
Urkeldaedalus Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,369 Original Poster	Originally posted by ogl Thanks a lot Ohh....A16 is rather sharp. Of course, A16 has better resolution than A12. To say, honest 24-85 is outstanding zoom...Not too fast, but really cool. "The lens configuration has 11 elements in 9 groups. The use of three aspherical lenses (six surfaces) and high-refraction lenses effectively reduces various types of distortion across the entire zoom range. The result is high resolution and excellent contrast from edge to edge. In addition, the configuration of nine rounded aperture blades enables both highly precise aperture control and beautiful bokeh." It's really a pretty impressive zoom from the images I've seen. I think it's the variable aperture that gives people the idea that it's a cheap zoom, which is a shame.

09-30-2012, 05:39 AM	#281
Urkeldaedalus Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,369 Original Poster	Originally posted by ogl GXR is the best camera I ever used in my life (I had my first camera 33 years ago). The control's functions are made by cleverest engineer. The body is too cute and too solid...I'm in love with this camera. Glad you like it! I'm hoping they refresh the A12 prime units with the 16 mp Sony sensor because that A12 28 mm is also one of my favorite lenses/camera combos ever and I need to replace my broken lensor unit

09-30-2012, 05:43 AM	#282
Urkeldaedalus Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,369 Original Poster	Originally posted by cali92rs If the GXR would come out with a K-Mount module, i would sell my K-5 in an instant. But some are speculating that Ricoh doesnt want to eat into the K-01 sales. IMHO, that would be a huuuuge mistake. I would like to get some indication that Ricoh was interested in sustaining and furthering the GXR before I invest in it. Photokina was not good on that front Ricoh GXR A16 Kmount unit + DA15 Limited = an awesome walkaround camera. Even if you couldn't autofocus on the K-mount module I'd just use zone focusing plus the GXR snapshot for streetshooting.

09-30-2012, 05:44 AM	#283
Urkeldaedalus Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,369 Original Poster	Originally posted by Maiku I am a new memeber I just want to throw my two-cents in a say this camera system is simple the best for travel or if you have kids. Lens are amazing. Hello Maiku! Welcome to the thread and the forum.

09-30-2012, 09:03 AM	#285
Urkeldaedalus Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,369 Original Poster	Originally posted by ogl A16 24-85 is sharp like prime...IMO. It's surprise for me...It seems to me the module has no AA filter or AA filter is very weak. I see some moire on curtains. Somebody dislike moire. But I like sharpness. As for K-mount. I'm afraid GXR could lose the compactness with such module. I believe you are correct about the lack of an AA filter. I referenced that in an earlier post when I posted this image (also some nice bokeh. Makes you wish it was an f/2.8 but that might have been expensive/huge) http://www.ricoh.com/r_dc/gxr/img/sample_34.jpg I also agree the K-mount module would make the GXR a bit bulkier as I'm imagining it would have to be built out a little bit to accommodate the K-mount. But like the Sony RX1, this would just mean it would be portable without being pocketable.