Rumeurs nouveau GR IV

PONCET · 08-25-2021, 12:24 AM

Bonjour,

Il paraîtrait qu’un nouveau GR IV serait annoncé pour fin de 2021?
Fake News ou réalité ?
Merci

Rumors new GR IV
Hello,

It seems that a new GR IV will be announced for the end of 2021?
Fake News or Reality?
Thank you

Last edited by MarkJerling; 08-25-2021 at 02:44 AM. Reason: English added.

fairyvilje · 08-25-2021, 01:07 AM

Where have you found such information?
I would be surprised since the last one was just a while ago and the development cycles for Ricoh are not the fastest in the industry.

**BigMackCam** · 08-25-2021, 03:14 AM

From what I can find online, the rumours appear to be based on nothing more than Ricoh filing patents for two lenses that cover the APS-C sensor format and are designed for a short registration distance, as per the GR series. I can't find anything else to suggest this would mean a new GR camera later this year, and would somehow doubt it considering the GR III is only two-and-a-half years old...

house · 08-25-2021, 03:21 AM

Hasn't Ooku or someone else suggested a new GR is in the works? Cant remember the source but I thought one of the frequent leakers have said so.

It also seems the GR line is popular and profitable which makes faster iterations more likely.

stevebrot · 08-25-2021, 10:40 AM

There is a thread in the rumors section involving an electronics registration somewhere for a new camera model that may be for a GR, though there is no reason to conclude it is a significant change to the existing model.

Steve

**Fontan** · 08-25-2021, 11:23 AM

I don't know. For me, unless the sensor (I presume it to be APS-C) is staggeringly better I won't have a reason to update. Would the sensor for K3iii works well in GR and makes it staggeringly better than GRiii? I just don't know. Now - if something like GR FF (not likely) or GR mono, then now we are talking. It's just that GRiii is such a great camera that I am not sure what you really do with that for improvement, other than sensors.

**Serkevan** · 08-25-2021, 12:13 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Fontan

I don't know. For me, unless the sensor (I presume it to be APS-C) is staggeringly better I won't have a reason to update. Would the sensor for K3iii works well in GR and makes it staggeringly better than GRiii? I just don't know. Now - if something like GR FF (not likely) or GR mono, then now we are talking. It's just that GRiii is such a great camera that I am not sure what you really do with that for improvement, other than sensors.

Different lens FL I guess... personally I'd see a narrower, say 28mm, lens having some interest - although I don't think I'm really qualified as a street photographer.

stevebrot · 08-25-2021, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by Serkevan

Different lens FL I guess... personally I'd see a narrower, say 28mm, lens having some interest - although I don't think I'm really qualified as a street photographer.

Current focal length is 28mm equivalent. Are you suggesting longer? I, personally, think there might be room for 35mm equivalent (24mm actual) as an option for a GRIII variant.

Steve

OoKU · 08-25-2021, 11:02 PM

It's name not called GR IV.

**BigMackCam** · 08-26-2021, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by OoKU

It's name not called GR IV.

Interesting! Any idea of timescale? 2021... 2022... later?

OoKU · 08-26-2021, 12:50 AM - **2 Likes**

soon.

**BigMackCam** · 08-26-2021, 01:21 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by OoKU

soon.

Wow. I guess the GR III must have sold very well for Ricoh to be (close to) releasing a follow-up so soon... assuming, of course, that it is a follow-up, as opposed to a completely new model. Either way, it's encouraging to see more new product releases on the way. Go Ricoh!

**Serkevan** · 08-26-2021, 01:40 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Wow. I guess the GR III must have sold very well for Ricoh to be (close to) releasing a follow-up so soon... assuming, of course, that it is a follow-up, as opposed to a completely new model. Either way, it's encouraging to see more new product releases on the way. Go Ricoh!

Mistral had mentioned that the GRiii (and Theta)'s very strong sales had quite literally saved the Pentax Boutique (Now Ricoh Imaging Square Paris?) from closing down. I hope this one also helps the balance sheet!

---------- Post added 08-26-21 at 01:46 AM ----------

Originally posted by stevebrot

Current focal length is 28mm equivalent. Are you suggesting longer? I, personally, think there might be room for 35mm equivalent (24mm actual) as an option for a GRIII variant.

Steve

Yeah, I was talking in FL itself - a 28mm lens (so 43mm equivalent) would also be a touch tighter than the Fuji X100, so it wouldn't compete directly with that camera, and I'm personally biased to the 43mm FL

(I often go strolling with just the FA43 on the K-1 and it works very well). I admittedly don't have a lot of experience with street, like I said, but for me a longer lens than 28mm eq. would be more of an ideal "carry everywhere" camera.

**Fontan** · 08-26-2021, 01:12 PM

I would literally crap in my pants if they put out a GR mono. I would love that so very much.

OoKU · 08-26-2021, 05:04 PM

Mono not this year.

08-25-2021, 12:24 AM	#1
PONCET New Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 13	Rumeurs nouveau GR IV Bonjour, Il paraîtrait qu’un nouveau GR IV serait annoncé pour fin de 2021? Fake News ou réalité ? Merci Rumors new GR IV Hello, It seems that a new GR IV will be announced for the end of 2021? Fake News or Reality? Thank you Last edited by MarkJerling; 08-25-2021 at 02:44 AM. Reason: English added.

08-26-2021, 01:40 AM - 2 Likes	#13
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by BigMackCam Wow. I guess the GR III must have sold very well for Ricoh to be (close to) releasing a follow-up so soon... assuming, of course, that it is a follow-up, as opposed to a completely new model. Either way, it's encouraging to see more new product releases on the way. Go Ricoh! Mistral had mentioned that the GRiii (and Theta)'s very strong sales had quite literally saved the Pentax Boutique (Now Ricoh Imaging Square Paris?) from closing down. I hope this one also helps the balance sheet! ---------- Post added 08-26-21 at 01:46 AM ---------- Originally posted by stevebrot Current focal length is 28mm equivalent. Are you suggesting longer? I, personally, think there might be room for 35mm equivalent (24mm actual) as an option for a GRIII variant. Steve Yeah, I was talking in FL itself - a 28mm lens (so 43mm equivalent) would also be a touch tighter than the Fuji X100, so it wouldn't compete directly with that camera, and I'm personally biased to the 43mm FL (I often go strolling with just the FA43 on the K-1 and it works very well). I admittedly don't have a lot of experience with street, like I said, but for me a longer lens than 28mm eq. would be more of an ideal "carry everywhere" camera. Last edited by Serkevan; 08-26-2021 at 01:47 AM.

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08-25-2021, 01:07 AM	#2
fairyvilje New Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 16	Where have you found such information? I would be surprised since the last one was just a while ago and the development cycles for Ricoh are not the fastest in the industry.

08-25-2021, 03:14 AM	#3
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,676	From what I can find online, the rumours appear to be based on nothing more than Ricoh filing patents for two lenses that cover the APS-C sensor format and are designed for a short registration distance, as per the GR series. I can't find anything else to suggest this would mean a new GR camera later this year, and would somehow doubt it considering the GR III is only two-and-a-half years old...

08-25-2021, 03:21 AM	#4
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Hasn't Ooku or someone else suggested a new GR is in the works? Cant remember the source but I thought one of the frequent leakers have said so. It also seems the GR line is popular and profitable which makes faster iterations more likely.

08-25-2021, 10:40 AM	#5
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	There is a thread in the rumors section involving an electronics registration somewhere for a new camera model that may be for a GR, though there is no reason to conclude it is a significant change to the existing model. Steve

08-25-2021, 11:23 AM	#6
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	I don't know. For me, unless the sensor (I presume it to be APS-C) is staggeringly better I won't have a reason to update. Would the sensor for K3iii works well in GR and makes it staggeringly better than GRiii? I just don't know. Now - if something like GR FF (not likely) or GR mono, then now we are talking. It's just that GRiii is such a great camera that I am not sure what you really do with that for improvement, other than sensors.

08-25-2021, 12:13 PM - 1 Like	#7
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by Fontan I don't know. For me, unless the sensor (I presume it to be APS-C) is staggeringly better I won't have a reason to update. Would the sensor for K3iii works well in GR and makes it staggeringly better than GRiii? I just don't know. Now - if something like GR FF (not likely) or GR mono, then now we are talking. It's just that GRiii is such a great camera that I am not sure what you really do with that for improvement, other than sensors. Different lens FL I guess... personally I'd see a narrower, say 28mm, lens having some interest - although I don't think I'm really qualified as a street photographer.

08-25-2021, 08:00 PM	#8
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Serkevan Different lens FL I guess... personally I'd see a narrower, say 28mm, lens having some interest - although I don't think I'm really qualified as a street photographer. Current focal length is 28mm equivalent. Are you suggesting longer? I, personally, think there might be room for 35mm equivalent (24mm actual) as an option for a GRIII variant. Steve

08-25-2021, 11:02 PM	#9
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740	It's name not called GR IV.

08-26-2021, 12:14 AM	#10
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,676	Originally posted by OoKU It's name not called GR IV. Interesting! Any idea of timescale? 2021... 2022... later?

08-26-2021, 12:50 AM - 2 Likes	#11
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740	soon.

08-26-2021, 01:21 AM - 1 Like	#12
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,676	Originally posted by OoKU soon. Wow. I guess the GR III must have sold very well for Ricoh to be (close to) releasing a follow-up so soon... assuming, of course, that it is a follow-up, as opposed to a completely new model. Either way, it's encouraging to see more new product releases on the way. Go Ricoh!

08-26-2021, 01:12 PM	#14
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	I would literally crap in my pants if they put out a GR mono. I would love that so very much.

08-26-2021, 05:04 PM	#15
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740	Mono not this year.