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02-12-2012, 10:57 PM   #2431
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I must say that Pentax have not listened to us, at least during 2012-13 there will not come any new FF lenses, so the body will not come before that, I can not wait. Because I have some FF lenses for A mount, I most probably will buy next FF Sony or an used A900 for them, and then I might sell all APS-C lenses and buy Oly's new EM5 as my every day camera.
Pentax do not understand that now a days the time windows closes quite fast, and when the window is closed, it is too late

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QuoteOriginally posted by markku55 Quote
I must say that Pentax have not listened to us, at least during 2012-13 there will not come any new FF lenses, so the body will not come before that, I can not wait. Because I have some FF lenses for A mount, I most probably will buy next FF Sony or an used A900 for them, and then I might sell all APS-C lenses and buy Oly's new EM5 as my every day camera.
Pentax do not understand that now a days the time windows closes quite fast, and when the window is closed, it is too late
I thought the planned DA 50mm f/1.7 was full frame? Whether that's true or not, I'd bet a decent chunk of change that the 560mm is FF. I'd bet a less decent chunk of change that the 24-75mm is FF.
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If DA lens can also be FF, that is ok, but I do not understand that kind of confusing markings, FF should be DFA or FA, and only APS-C should be DA
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QuoteOriginally posted by markku55 Quote
If DA lens can also be FF, that is ok, but I do not understand that kind of confusing markings, FF should be DFA or FA, and only APS-C should be DA
I agree, but those marketing people don't. A lot of the "DA" lenses work well on FF.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/31629-da-lens-...ts-thread.html

02-12-2012, 11:44 PM   #2435
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DA lenses - means that this lenses are optimized for digital sensors, not for film. DA mark doesn't indicate that lenses are only for APS-C.
DA doesn't show the size of sensor.
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Ok, so I suggest DFA for FF
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QuoteOriginally posted by markku55 Quote
Ok, so I suggest DFA for FF
DFA is some kind of casus... for K-mount.
Only DFA 50/2.8 macro and new DFA 100/2.8 macro carry such name.
it's redesigned a bit for digital sensor from old FA macro (which copies of F macro).
For new version DFA100 -Pentax made only new body for DFA100, put WR and change the shape of aperture. Without optical changes.
DFA is a part of history. IMO.

DFA for 645D is another case. It shows that lens can cover 56*41.5 mm
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QuoteOriginally posted by maxfield_photo Quote
No, they have the ability to include a virtual crop factor so that if you mount a DA lens (with a few exceptions that already project a 35mm image circle) the camera would just capture the image in the APS-C area.
IMHO it would be great if they assigned individual crops to the DA lenses, some of them cover quite a bit more than APS-C, but not quite FF.

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I think the best would be a mirrorless 645D with a new, short mount bayonet, where we could use K lenses with an adapter, cropping to the individual cover circle of the lens. While we know some DA lens cover 24x36, it is possible that some K, F or FA lenses cover a frame much larger than 43mm in diagonal.
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I do not believe in adapters to use our full frame glass. What you are essentially proposing is a 645D with a completely new mount? I'm sorry, this is not a path Pentax should pursue. Keep the K mount and 645 mount alone but give us more choice in sensors.

Instead of adapters I believe in removable backs (and yes, camera bodies are essentially removable backs )
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If they showed that the new lenses would be FF then everybody could come to the simple conclusion that an FF CAMERA would be in the wings. I don't think it would be very wise to provide that kind of information to the competetion too soon.
So I think you will find that info only when and IF the FF camera is announced.
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That might be too late for many Pentax fans
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I would hate to burst anyones bubble but we have a LONG wait till Photokina before even News of a FF is possibly imminent. Add 6 months minimum to that again to release one.
6 months of that wait can be blamed on the disasters and the sale to Ricoh.
I do believe some of the glass to be released WILL be FF compatible just not marked as such to keep the opposition guessing.
A FF body is ESSENTIAL to send a message that Pentax is to be considered as a serious professional platform along with 645D, it is just too little time to develop anything as it doesn't look like Hoya had anything in development.
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QuoteOriginally posted by gazonk Quote
IMHO it would be great if they assigned individual crops to the DA lenses, some of them cover quite a bit more than APS-C, but not quite FF.
Boy, that would be unique! I had the same thought.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Asahiflex Quote
I do not believe in adapters to use our full frame glass. What you are essentially proposing is a 645D with a completely new mount?
That's what most would like to have for the K-01. A slimmer body with an adapter for K lens. And it's what Olympus OM-D is about, also. It' s Pentax to have spoken about a mirrorless 645D. And keeping the enormous 645 mirrobox, that'0s enopurmus even for today 44x33 sensor, I don't know how wise it would be. They could create a tube adapter for current 645D lenses, but they could also build a title/shift one, a thing that would be appreciated by the pro costumers of the MF. Shortening the registration distance, instantly, by Pentax or third parts, an adapter would permit the use of full frame lenses, not only Pentax, but of any makers, a thing that would be a plus for the many customers of the 645D that are into Canon and Nikon.

If Pentax does a full frame "legit" camera, it will do it to sell new lenses, not to let old costumers use lenses the ones they just own. IMO.

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