Pentax Full Frame - An official statement from Pentax (they listened!)

Jodokast96 · 10-20-2011, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

I would 100% buy a FF Pentax.

Mine just arrived in the mail today.

Adam · 10-20-2011, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by Musicale

I did not know about Ricoh - I wonder what happened to them and their brand

At 6x the size of Nikon and about the size of Canon, I'd say they're hanging in there!

**alanjoke** · 10-20-2011, 07:13 PM - **1 Like**

I really hope they make FF DSLR. I own a K-5 and have to buy another Canon camera just for the full frame lens I have.

rjm · 10-20-2011, 07:19 PM

And Ricoh-Pentax hears your cries.

2014 : announces full-frame K-mount GXR module.

KEKEKEKEKEKE!

markac · 10-20-2011, 07:54 PM

At least Pentax isn't totally negative to the suggestion of a FF camera. Personally I still think Pentax could make the smallest and most economical FF DSLR. Sony might be able to undercut Pentax by making a FF SLT body, but that really isn't a DSLR anymore is it? Anyway latest reports seem to indicate that Sony will now introduce more than one new FF camera. Possibly one SLT and one OVF body? Anyhow I'd rather stay with a camera that uses Pentax lenses ( I currently have a Samsung GX-20) if I can. I certainly won't go to Nikon or Canon.

Some APS-C users seem to be fearful that Pentax building an FF camera would mean the decline of APS-C. I doubt if anything could be further from the truth. FF just gives us an option to step up without spending 10 grand on a Pentax 645 and lugging around a MF sized digital camera. Something few of us want or could afford.

Bloggs · 10-20-2011, 08:12 PM

Too late for me! I have already upgraded my Pentax DSLR to Canon. The reason is that I needed to upgrade to full frame and Pentax had nowhere to go, sad as that is.

So I now carry a Pentax 67II kit as well as the DSLR kit around. If Pentax can make a full frame I would consider going back.... After so many years with Pentax gear it was difficult to change.. but necessary.

So, come on Pentax... get your act together. There's a market here for you and loyal people who want IN!

mickey · 10-20-2011, 08:40 PM

Sure would be interesting if they did release one.
Has been heated, at times, discussion over a FF camera since I've been a member here.
There is demand...hard to say how much after just going on posters from this site alone though.

As for me, my next camera will, all being well, a K-5.
Personally, I don't feel the need for a FF camera atm.

markac · 10-20-2011, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by ogl

By the way, the leader of photomarket called Canon

stays just with TWO models of FF cameras - 1Dx and with new version of 5D (I think)...

JUST TWO cameras. I think that Nikon will offer D800 and D5 - and nothing more.

Sony will make new A99. 1 model.

I doubt that Ricoh/Pentax will make FF camera in the nearest 1-2 years.

It now appears that there might be more than one new FF Sony:

sonyalpharumors | Blog | (SR5) A9x with 24 Megapixel sensor coming in Spring. (SR4) 36 Megapixel FF a couple of months later?

**maxfield_photo** · 10-20-2011, 09:02 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Jodokast96

Mine just arrived in the mail today.

Hey, they sent you mine by mistake!

markac · 10-20-2011, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by maxfield_photo

Hey, they sent you mine by mistake!

Can you check if the postmark says 2013 or 2014?

sjwaldron · 10-20-2011, 09:13 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Iskandar Taib

Bah, humbug. A full frame dSLR will be huge and cost a ton of money, no matter who makes it. Not for me, I'm afraid.

Somewhat ironic about Ricoh "taking over " Pentax - in the early 80s I was in the market for a SLR, and quickly decided I wanted a K-Mount. Looking at all the features, I eventually went with a Ricoh XR2s. It had everything I could get in a K-mount SLR at the time, far more than the then top-of-the-line Pentax ME Super (at the expense of added bulk, of course) AND was quite a few dollars cheaper. Nice build quality, too. Used it for years. Bought a Pentax 50/1.4 to go with it later. Only started buying Pentax bodies years later when cheap used MEs and ME Supers started becoming available.

Iskandar

That's a good story, and I hope Ricoh has a similar mindset to what they had in days past. With Pentax and Ricoh engineering together it should be interesting.

Originally posted by Adam

They should just re-launch all their FA* lenses with quick-shift. That would make them perfect!

I absolutely agree.

I probably sound like a broken record on the forums, but I keep saying they did something good with the D-FA 100mm WR Macro lens. It's just strange that's the only lens they have done the treatment to. Imagine a FA* 85mm f1.4 turned into a "D-FA* 85mm f1.4 WR" with quick-shift, WR, machined aluminum casing, improved coatings, and rounded aperture blades.

markac · 10-20-2011, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by pentup

I don't suppose there's much chance that a full-frame Pentax would still have in-body stabilization, is there? I would think it'd be a problem in terms of weight and cost. Of course on full-frame there'd be less need, but still...

The Sony A900/A850 have it so I'd say there was a good chance. It's time to de-cripple that mount too, don't you think?

Frogfish · 10-20-2011, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by sjwaldron

I probably sound like a broken record on the forums, but I keep saying they did something good with the D-FA 100mm WR Macro lens. It's just strange that's the only lens they have done the treatment to. Imagine a FA* 85mm f1.4 turned into a "D-FA* 85mm f1.4 WR" with quick-shift, WR, machined aluminum casing, improved coatings, and rounded aperture blades.

Actually I think that is the one lens they have really messed up .... how can you offer a macro lens without an aperture ring ?

Frogfish · 10-20-2011, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by Iskandar Taib

Bah, humbug. A full frame dSLR will be huge and cost a ton of money, no matter who makes it. Not for me, I'm afraid.

Bah, humbug. Is the D700 huge ? Not at all, I have handled the D700 right next to a K5 .... there is little difference and it's easy to hold and handle.

Frogfish · 10-20-2011, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by choschiba

I think what Pentax should have first are really high class lenses as Canon offers them!! When you look at the tele lenses there is really a lack of lenses!! I had to buy a Sigma for wildlife photography.

Pentax have some lenses that are better than Canon lenses if that is what you require ....... show me Canon's pancakes such as the 40 or 70 or small form factor lenses with stunning IQ such as the 15 Ltd, 43 Ltd, 77 Ltd. Pentax are lacking in the tele dept over 300mm (the DA*300 is another stunning lens) but maybe you could look out for a used 250-600 !

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10-20-2011, 07:54 PM	#245
markac Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Adelaide Posts: 84	At least Pentax isn't totally negative to the suggestion of a FF camera. Personally I still think Pentax could make the smallest and most economical FF DSLR. Sony might be able to undercut Pentax by making a FF SLT body, but that really isn't a DSLR anymore is it? Anyway latest reports seem to indicate that Sony will now introduce more than one new FF camera. Possibly one SLT and one OVF body? Anyhow I'd rather stay with a camera that uses Pentax lenses ( I currently have a Samsung GX-20) if I can. I certainly won't go to Nikon or Canon. Some APS-C users seem to be fearful that Pentax building an FF camera would mean the decline of APS-C. I doubt if anything could be further from the truth. FF just gives us an option to step up without spending 10 grand on a Pentax 645 and lugging around a MF sized digital camera. Something few of us want or could afford. Last edited by markac; 10-20-2011 at 07:59 PM.

10-20-2011, 08:12 PM	#246
Bloggs New Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Hervey Bay area Photos: Gallery Posts: 16	Full Frame Pentax DSLR Too late for me! I have already upgraded my Pentax DSLR to Canon. The reason is that I needed to upgrade to full frame and Pentax had nowhere to go, sad as that is. So I now carry a Pentax 67II kit as well as the DSLR kit around. If Pentax can make a full frame I would consider going back.... After so many years with Pentax gear it was difficult to change.. but necessary. So, come on Pentax... get your act together. There's a market here for you and loyal people who want IN!

10-20-2011, 09:19 PM	#252
markac Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Adelaide Posts: 84	FF stabilization Originally posted by pentup I don't suppose there's much chance that a full-frame Pentax would still have in-body stabilization, is there? I would think it'd be a problem in terms of weight and cost. Of course on full-frame there'd be less need, but still... The Sony A900/A850 have it so I'd say there was a good chance. It's time to de-cripple that mount too, don't you think?

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10-20-2011, 07:08 PM	#241
Jodokast96 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Erial, NJ USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,134	Originally posted by deadwolfbones I would 100% buy a FF Pentax. Mine just arrived in the mail today.

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10-20-2011, 07:19 PM	#244
rjm Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kyoto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 72	And Ricoh-Pentax hears your cries. 2014 : announces full-frame K-mount GXR module. KEKEKEKEKEKE!

10-20-2011, 08:40 PM	#247
mickey Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,146	Sure would be interesting if they did release one. Has been heated, at times, discussion over a FF camera since I've been a member here. There is demand...hard to say how much after just going on posters from this site alone though. As for me, my next camera will, all being well, a K-5. Personally, I don't feel the need for a FF camera atm.

10-20-2011, 08:59 PM	#248
markac Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Adelaide Posts: 84	Originally posted by ogl By the way, the leader of photomarket called Canon stays just with TWO models of FF cameras - 1Dx and with new version of 5D (I think)... JUST TWO cameras. I think that Nikon will offer D800 and D5 - and nothing more. Sony will make new A99. 1 model. I doubt that Ricoh/Pentax will make FF camera in the nearest 1-2 years. It now appears that there might be more than one new FF Sony: sonyalpharumors \| Blog \| (SR5) A9x with 24 Megapixel sensor coming in Spring. (SR4) 36 Megapixel FF a couple of months later?

10-20-2011, 09:02 PM - 1 Like	#249
maxfield_photo Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,216	Originally posted by Jodokast96 Mine just arrived in the mail today. Hey, they sent you mine by mistake!

10-20-2011, 09:11 PM	#250
markac Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Adelaide Posts: 84	Originally posted by maxfield_photo Hey, they sent you mine by mistake! Can you check if the postmark says 2013 or 2014?

10-20-2011, 09:13 PM - 1 Like	#251
sjwaldron Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,235	Originally posted by Iskandar Taib Bah, humbug. A full frame dSLR will be huge and cost a ton of money, no matter who makes it. Not for me, I'm afraid. Somewhat ironic about Ricoh "taking over " Pentax - in the early 80s I was in the market for a SLR, and quickly decided I wanted a K-Mount. Looking at all the features, I eventually went with a Ricoh XR2s. It had everything I could get in a K-mount SLR at the time, far more than the then top-of-the-line Pentax ME Super (at the expense of added bulk, of course) AND was quite a few dollars cheaper. Nice build quality, too. Used it for years. Bought a Pentax 50/1.4 to go with it later. Only started buying Pentax bodies years later when cheap used MEs and ME Supers started becoming available. Iskandar That's a good story, and I hope Ricoh has a similar mindset to what they had in days past. With Pentax and Ricoh engineering together it should be interesting. Originally posted by Adam They should just re-launch all their FA* lenses with quick-shift. That would make them perfect! I absolutely agree. I probably sound like a broken record on the forums, but I keep saying they did something good with the D-FA 100mm WR Macro lens. It's just strange that's the only lens they have done the treatment to. Imagine a FA* 85mm f1.4 turned into a "D-FA* 85mm f1.4 WR" with quick-shift, WR, machined aluminum casing, improved coatings, and rounded aperture blades.

10-20-2011, 09:33 PM	#253
Frogfish Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shanghai Posts: 4,490	Originally posted by sjwaldron I probably sound like a broken record on the forums, but I keep saying they did something good with the D-FA 100mm WR Macro lens. It's just strange that's the only lens they have done the treatment to. Imagine a FA* 85mm f1.4 turned into a "D-FA* 85mm f1.4 WR" with quick-shift, WR, machined aluminum casing, improved coatings, and rounded aperture blades. Actually I think that is the one lens they have really messed up .... how can you offer a macro lens without an aperture ring ?

10-20-2011, 09:38 PM	#254
Frogfish Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shanghai Posts: 4,490	Originally posted by Iskandar Taib Bah, humbug. A full frame dSLR will be huge and cost a ton of money, no matter who makes it. Not for me, I'm afraid. Bah, humbug. Is the D700 huge ? Not at all, I have handled the D700 right next to a K5 .... there is little difference and it's easy to hold and handle.

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10-20-2011, 09:45 PM	#255
Frogfish Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shanghai Posts: 4,490	Originally posted by choschiba I think what Pentax should have first are really high class lenses as Canon offers them!! When you look at the tele lenses there is really a lack of lenses!! I had to buy a Sigma for wildlife photography. Pentax have some lenses that are better than Canon lenses if that is what you require ....... show me Canon's pancakes such as the 40 or 70 or small form factor lenses with stunning IQ such as the 15 Ltd, 43 Ltd, 77 Ltd. Pentax are lacking in the tele dept over 300mm (the DA*300 is another stunning lens) but maybe you could look out for a used 250-600 !