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**maxfield_photo** · 11-28-2011, 04:40 PM

Happy 100th page!! I didn't think we'd make it. 100 pages, 1486 posts, and 71,777 views and 136 "likes" in six weeks.

builttospill · 11-28-2011, 04:47 PM

And is it bad I've read every one of those posts and pages hoping for more information on an upcoming FF from Pentax?

Parallax · 11-28-2011, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by builttospill

And is it bad I've read every one of those posts and pages hoping for more information on an upcoming FF from Pentax?

Not bad, but certainly futile. Anything anybody says regarding when or if there will be a FF is pure speculation. Now that you have read the entire thread, make your own guess. It will be as valid as anybody else's.

alohadave · 11-28-2011, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by Winder

The Q is one of the cameras that I just don't understand the need for. If I care enough about IQ to deal with interchangeable prime lenses then I probably care enough to go for a larger sensor and carry around a larger camera. If size and convenience are the most important factors then any new smart phone will do.

BSI is cool tech and an obvious step forward. There is a good chance the heat issues will be resolved and they will be able to make larger sensors like m4/3. If Panasonic can put BSI sensors in a m4/3 body they will easily exceed APS-C performance.

Exactly who is the target demographic for the Q? James Bond fans?

The Japanese home market. They have different tastes than the US market does.

**jatrax** · 11-28-2011, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by maxfield_photo

Happy 100th page!! I didn't think we'd make it. 100 pages, 1486 posts, and 71,777 views and 136 "likes" in six weeks.

And I am shocked that after all of that effort Pentax has STILL not announced a full frame camera. Shocked.

Alizarine · 11-28-2011, 11:40 PM

maybe after 100 more pages...?

StepOne · 11-29-2011, 01:19 AM

I don't think there will be an FF. Ricoh just updated GXR roadmap for 2012, APS-C sensor (16mp) module. Maybe a new K-r with 16 mp sensor and K-5x or whatever name with problems solved. What they would need to do, in my opinion is not FF but better AF (smaller points, better tracking and accuracy) and 1/250 flash sync.

Maybe they want to bet on GXR line, keep the lenses and still have no idea what to do with Pentax cameras. Or maybe they will make a plastic fantastic bright pink 645D toy middle format camera that works for 1000 shots and cost 150, who knows?

After 100 pages i know for sure we don't! Cheers!

Kunzite · 11-29-2011, 01:40 AM

If they wanted to "bet on GXR line" and they had "no idea what to do with Pentax cameras" they wouldn't had bought Pentax. But they did

Anyway, Ricoh is Ricoh, Pentax is Pentax; separate entities (even if Ricoh owns Pentax), separate camera lines. And we know what Ricoh want to do with Pentax: Pentax cameras

Indeed, better AF is a must but this should also include faster (AF-wise) lenses. Hopefully, they'll get rid of the huge AF points SAFOX IX+ (otherwise I liked their arrangement) and of those SDM micromotors (low-end solution) in their top lenses.
1/250 is only 1/3 stop from 1/180 (or something like that), so it's not such a big issue.

falconeye · 11-29-2011, 06:36 AM - **2 Likes**

FF ?

Did anybody say FF? Almost 1500 times?

So, here you have FF, 30FF ...

starbase218 · 11-29-2011, 06:57 AM

Originally posted by maxfield_photo

Happy 100th page!! I didn't think we'd make it. 100 pages, 1486 posts, and 71,777 views and 136 "likes" in six weeks.

It's amazing how people can talk about nothing at all, isn't it? OTOH if there were something to talk about, the thread probably wouldn't even be half as long. It amazes me, so much time and energy gone to waste...

Clavius · 11-29-2011, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by starbase218

It's amazing how people can talk about nothing at all, isn't it? OTOH if there were something to talk about, the thread probably wouldn't even be half as long. It amazes me, so much time and energy gone to waste...

I don't know if it's a waste. Is having fun a waste?

The amount of reactions and views caused by a tiny spec of light at the end of the tunnel does indicate that Pentax users are very passionate about their brand.

Zygonyx · 11-29-2011, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

FF ?

Did anybody say FF? Almost 1500 times?

So, here you have FF, 30FF ...

Argh... with this kind of present, you're gonna give inspiration for thousands more views and posts !

stanleyk · 11-29-2011, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

FF ?

Did anybody say FF? Almost 1500 times?

So, here you have FF, 30FF ...

That beats my D700.

starbase218 · 11-29-2011, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

I don't know if it's a waste. Is having fun a waste?

The amount of reactions and views caused by a tiny spec of light at the end of the tunnel does indicate that Pentax users are very passionate about their brand.

Well, it may be fun talking about it for a minute or 5. But in the end I'd rather just do something else. But don't let that stop you, because you're not me.

And it may be me, but the part of the camera that matters the least is located just below the pop-up flash when looked at from the front. It's usually white letters on a black background...

I'd rather be done with it and just use the thing.

Now, using a 30FF is a whole different thing from the looks of it.

Spare Tire · 11-29-2011, 08:36 AM

I'd do street with that 30FF

11-29-2011, 06:36 AM - 2 Likes	#1494
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11-28-2011, 04:40 PM	#1486
maxfield_photo Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,216	Happy 100th page!! I didn't think we'd make it. 100 pages, 1486 posts, and 71,777 views and 136 "likes" in six weeks.

11-28-2011, 04:47 PM	#1487
builttospill Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Utah, Idaho Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,398	And is it bad I've read every one of those posts and pages hoping for more information on an upcoming FF from Pentax?

11-28-2011, 06:43 PM	#1488
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by builttospill And is it bad I've read every one of those posts and pages hoping for more information on an upcoming FF from Pentax? Not bad, but certainly futile. Anything anybody says regarding when or if there will be a FF is pure speculation. Now that you have read the entire thread, make your own guess. It will be as valid as anybody else's.

11-28-2011, 08:17 PM	#1489
alohadave Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Quincy, MA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,024	Originally posted by Winder The Q is one of the cameras that I just don't understand the need for. If I care enough about IQ to deal with interchangeable prime lenses then I probably care enough to go for a larger sensor and carry around a larger camera. If size and convenience are the most important factors then any new smart phone will do. BSI is cool tech and an obvious step forward. There is a good chance the heat issues will be resolved and they will be able to make larger sensors like m4/3. If Panasonic can put BSI sensors in a m4/3 body they will easily exceed APS-C performance. Exactly who is the target demographic for the Q? James Bond fans? The Japanese home market. They have different tastes than the US market does.

11-28-2011, 11:26 PM	#1490
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by maxfield_photo Happy 100th page!! I didn't think we'd make it. 100 pages, 1486 posts, and 71,777 views and 136 "likes" in six weeks. And I am shocked that after all of that effort Pentax has STILL not announced a full frame camera. Shocked.

11-28-2011, 11:40 PM	#1491
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	maybe after 100 more pages...?

11-29-2011, 01:19 AM	#1492
StepOne Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Botosani Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 285	I don't think there will be an FF. Ricoh just updated GXR roadmap for 2012, APS-C sensor (16mp) module. Maybe a new K-r with 16 mp sensor and K-5x or whatever name with problems solved. What they would need to do, in my opinion is not FF but better AF (smaller points, better tracking and accuracy) and 1/250 flash sync. Maybe they want to bet on GXR line, keep the lenses and still have no idea what to do with Pentax cameras. Or maybe they will make a plastic fantastic bright pink 645D toy middle format camera that works for 1000 shots and cost 150, who knows? After 100 pages i know for sure we don't! Cheers!

11-29-2011, 01:40 AM	#1493
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	If they wanted to "bet on GXR line" and they had "no idea what to do with Pentax cameras" they wouldn't had bought Pentax. But they did Anyway, Ricoh is Ricoh, Pentax is Pentax; separate entities (even if Ricoh owns Pentax), separate camera lines. And we know what Ricoh want to do with Pentax: Pentax cameras Indeed, better AF is a must but this should also include faster (AF-wise) lenses. Hopefully, they'll get rid of the huge AF points SAFOX IX+ (otherwise I liked their arrangement) and of those SDM micromotors (low-end solution) in their top lenses. 1/250 is only 1/3 stop from 1/180 (or something like that), so it's not such a big issue.

11-29-2011, 06:57 AM	#1495
starbase218 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy, Universe Posts: 1,119	Originally posted by maxfield_photo Happy 100th page!! I didn't think we'd make it. 100 pages, 1486 posts, and 71,777 views and 136 "likes" in six weeks. It's amazing how people can talk about nothing at all, isn't it? OTOH if there were something to talk about, the thread probably wouldn't even be half as long. It amazes me, so much time and energy gone to waste...

11-29-2011, 07:24 AM	#1496
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by starbase218 It's amazing how people can talk about nothing at all, isn't it? OTOH if there were something to talk about, the thread probably wouldn't even be half as long. It amazes me, so much time and energy gone to waste... I don't know if it's a waste. Is having fun a waste? The amount of reactions and views caused by a tiny spec of light at the end of the tunnel does indicate that Pentax users are very passionate about their brand.

11-29-2011, 07:41 AM	#1497
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by falconeye FF ? Did anybody say FF? Almost 1500 times? So, here you have FF, 30FF ... Argh... with this kind of present, you're gonna give inspiration for thousands more views and posts !

11-29-2011, 07:44 AM	#1498
stanleyk Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Taylor, Texas Posts: 1,018	Originally posted by falconeye FF ? Did anybody say FF? Almost 1500 times? So, here you have FF, 30FF ... That beats my D700.

11-29-2011, 08:04 AM	#1499
starbase218 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy, Universe Posts: 1,119	Originally posted by Clavius I don't know if it's a waste. Is having fun a waste? The amount of reactions and views caused by a tiny spec of light at the end of the tunnel does indicate that Pentax users are very passionate about their brand. Well, it may be fun talking about it for a minute or 5. But in the end I'd rather just do something else. But don't let that stop you, because you're not me. And it may be me, but the part of the camera that matters the least is located just below the pop-up flash when looked at from the front. It's usually white letters on a black background... I'd rather be done with it and just use the thing. Now, using a 30FF is a whole different thing from the looks of it.

11-29-2011, 08:36 AM	#1500
Spare Tire Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Montréal Posts: 118	I'd do street with that 30FF

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