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RXrenesis8 · 02-08-2012, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by D0n

so I got it wrong.. use the 645 mount, with a slightly shorter register distance, and sell BOTH 645 and k-mount adaptors?

That would work, but now the body must be made larger for the 645 mount to fit!

D0n · 02-08-2012, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by RXrenesis8

That would work, but now the body must be made larger for the 645 mount to fit!

Larger than the k-01
smaller than the 645...
I'm talking about making a 645 evil with a shorter register distance after removing the mirror box.. so making BOTH 645 and k-mount adaptors for it is possible...
size wise... remember the old fuji medium format rangerfinder?

gazonk · 02-09-2012, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by D0n

Larger than the k-01
smaller than the 645...
I'm talking about making a 645 evil with a shorter register distance after removing the mirror box.. so making BOTH 645 and k-mount adaptors for it is possible...
size wise... remember the old fuji medium format rangerfinder?

That sounds like an interesting concept!

I think we need to wait for yet a couple of generations of EVFs before potential photographers are willing to give up the 645Ds large OVF, though.

raider · 02-11-2012, 04:07 PM

Wow. This is a really really long thread :-) I can see the enthusiasm to get a FF Pentax :-)

One question I have is this. If Pentax introduce a FF camera, won't we all suddenly have an issue to use all our beloved pancake lenses with the camera, given that most of the current lenses are aps only? Don't we all need to start selling our aps lenses then?

**maxfield_photo** · 02-11-2012, 05:07 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by raider

Wow. This is a really really long thread :-) I can see the enthusiasm to get a FF Pentax :-)

One question I have is this. If Pentax introduce a FF camera, won't we all suddenly have an issue to use all our beloved pancake lenses with the camera, given that most of the current lenses are aps only? Don't we all need to start selling our aps lenses then?

No, they have the ability to include a virtual crop factor so that if you mount a DA lens (with a few exceptions that already project a 35mm image circle) the camera would just capture the image in the APS-C area. If the camera were to use a 36mp sensor, the cropped images would be roughly the size of the K-5's. Nikon already does this with their FX and DX formats. If the camera is only 18~24Mp though the images will be smaller. Of course some of us have largely stayed away from DA lenses this whole time for that very reason.

raider · 02-11-2012, 06:51 PM

I see. Thanks for that helpful explanation. I feel very comfortable with this approach. I hope Pentax's FF will be like what you described.

I m not too confident the FF will be 36MP? Unless Pentax uses the same sensor as the d800... The latest canon 1d series only has 18MP for the sensor....

But anyway thanks again for the explanation ;-)

Freak · 02-11-2012, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by raider

I see. Thanks for that helpful explanation. I feel very comfortable with this approach. I hope Pentax's FF will be like what you described.

I m not too confident the FF will be 36MP? Unless Pentax uses the same sensor as the d800..

Pentax don't make their own sensors, (like Canon) they would have no choice but to use the new Sony sensor, and it would be silly to use anything else anyway.

Chex · 02-12-2012, 12:37 AM

Well according to the "hints" from the interview that's currently being translated.. this thread can/will be around until next year.. at which time I'll see if Pentax releases a FF mirrorless and how much better it will be than the D800 it looks like I'll be getting in the next few months.. pending Canon's 5D Mark III release I guess...

Freak · 02-12-2012, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by Chex

Well according to the "hints" from the interview that's currently being translated.. this thread can/will be around until next year.. at which time I'll see if Pentax releases a FF mirrorless and how much better it will be than the D800 it looks like I'll be getting in the next few months.. pending Canon's 5D Mark III release I guess...

Yes very disappointed that Pentax just don't seem to listen to what their customers want. I do have some regrets about not going Nikon right about now. I would still prefer a Pentax FF than a Nikon one, but their is obviously a hole in the Pentax lineup that Pentax just don't want to fill.... ;(

Chex · 02-12-2012, 09:08 PM

Yup, I want nothing more than a FF solution to put behind some of the great glass like the FA limited series.. I have one, I would definitely be buying the 31 and 77 if they came out with a FF camera.. but now I guess I'll be looking to spend that money on a new system and unfortunately new glass to go with it. I want a D800, but the 5D Mark II is dropping in price like crazy right now as the Mark III approaches.. time to look into what my 43 Ltd would do better mounted to, Nikon or Canon.

ElJamoquio · 02-12-2012, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by Chex

I would definitely be buying the 31 and 77 if they came out with a FF camera..

Yup, the day a DSLR FF is announced I'd order a FA 31. And probably their 24-75. Until there's a FF I'm all set on Pentax glass, save a >500 mm lens.

rawr · 02-12-2012, 09:16 PM

I wish Pentax would just bite the bullet, say they are going to do a FF, and put a stop to all these FF threads.

Freak · 02-12-2012, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by Chex

Yup, I want nothing more than a FF solution to put behind some of the great glass like the FA limited series.. I have one, I would definitely be buying the 31 and 77 if they came out with a FF camera.. but now I guess I'll be looking to spend that money on a new system and unfortunately new glass to go with it. I want a D800, but the 5D Mark II is dropping in price like crazy right now as the Mark III approaches.. time to look into what my 43 Ltd would do better mounted to, Nikon or Canon.

Yes I would also like to use my FA77, D-FA 100mm Macro, and even my Sigma 50-500 is full frame compatible, I would add an FA31 and be all set for FF goodness. But it's not meant to be. I also have thought about adapting FA's to another brand of FF like the 5DMKII, now I need to contemplate it all again. (Sigh)

Chex · 02-12-2012, 09:31 PM

I don't like the fact that you need to "modify" your lens to mount to Canon EOS system... Nikon mount adapters that I saw have another piece of glass in them.. just not sure which route would be better. I would prefer the D800 over the 5D MII though.

**maxfield_photo** · 02-12-2012, 09:56 PM - **1 Like**

I'm thinking of maybe just selling all my APS-C gear, my K20d, my 50-135, my Sigma 8-16 etc, but keeping all my full frame glass, I can at least still use it on my KX. I figure my collection will get me a good ways towards a D800 body, it's the lenses that are gonna hurt. Makes me sick to my stomach. Pentax, I'm so pissed at you right now.

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02-08-2012, 06:29 PM	#2416
RXrenesis8 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orlando, FL (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 523	Originally posted by D0n so I got it wrong.. use the 645 mount, with a slightly shorter register distance, and sell BOTH 645 and k-mount adaptors? That would work, but now the body must be made larger for the 645 mount to fit!

02-08-2012, 06:48 PM	#2417
D0n Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 530	Originally posted by RXrenesis8 That would work, but now the body must be made larger for the 645 mount to fit! Larger than the k-01 smaller than the 645... I'm talking about making a 645 evil with a shorter register distance after removing the mirror box.. so making BOTH 645 and k-mount adaptors for it is possible... size wise... remember the old fuji medium format rangerfinder?

02-09-2012, 01:53 AM	#2418
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by D0n Larger than the k-01 smaller than the 645... I'm talking about making a 645 evil with a shorter register distance after removing the mirror box.. so making BOTH 645 and k-mount adaptors for it is possible... size wise... remember the old fuji medium format rangerfinder? That sounds like an interesting concept! I think we need to wait for yet a couple of generations of EVFs before potential photographers are willing to give up the 645Ds large OVF, though.

02-11-2012, 04:07 PM	#2419
raider Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,989	Wow. This is a really really long thread :-) I can see the enthusiasm to get a FF Pentax :-) One question I have is this. If Pentax introduce a FF camera, won't we all suddenly have an issue to use all our beloved pancake lenses with the camera, given that most of the current lenses are aps only? Don't we all need to start selling our aps lenses then?

02-11-2012, 05:07 PM - 1 Like	#2420
maxfield_photo Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,216	Originally posted by raider Wow. This is a really really long thread :-) I can see the enthusiasm to get a FF Pentax :-) One question I have is this. If Pentax introduce a FF camera, won't we all suddenly have an issue to use all our beloved pancake lenses with the camera, given that most of the current lenses are aps only? Don't we all need to start selling our aps lenses then? No, they have the ability to include a virtual crop factor so that if you mount a DA lens (with a few exceptions that already project a 35mm image circle) the camera would just capture the image in the APS-C area. If the camera were to use a 36mp sensor, the cropped images would be roughly the size of the K-5's. Nikon already does this with their FX and DX formats. If the camera is only 18~24Mp though the images will be smaller. Of course some of us have largely stayed away from DA lenses this whole time for that very reason.

02-11-2012, 06:51 PM	#2421
raider Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,989	I see. Thanks for that helpful explanation. I feel very comfortable with this approach. I hope Pentax's FF will be like what you described. I m not too confident the FF will be 36MP? Unless Pentax uses the same sensor as the d800... The latest canon 1d series only has 18MP for the sensor.... But anyway thanks again for the explanation ;-)

02-11-2012, 06:57 PM	#2422
Freak Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 361	Originally posted by raider I see. Thanks for that helpful explanation. I feel very comfortable with this approach. I hope Pentax's FF will be like what you described. I m not too confident the FF will be 36MP? Unless Pentax uses the same sensor as the d800.. Pentax don't make their own sensors, (like Canon) they would have no choice but to use the new Sony sensor, and it would be silly to use anything else anyway.

02-12-2012, 12:37 AM	#2423
Chex Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The 'Stoke, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,678	Well according to the "hints" from the interview that's currently being translated.. this thread can/will be around until next year.. at which time I'll see if Pentax releases a FF mirrorless and how much better it will be than the D800 it looks like I'll be getting in the next few months.. pending Canon's 5D Mark III release I guess...

02-12-2012, 09:02 PM	#2424
Freak Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 361	Originally posted by Chex Well according to the "hints" from the interview that's currently being translated.. this thread can/will be around until next year.. at which time I'll see if Pentax releases a FF mirrorless and how much better it will be than the D800 it looks like I'll be getting in the next few months.. pending Canon's 5D Mark III release I guess... Yes very disappointed that Pentax just don't seem to listen to what their customers want. I do have some regrets about not going Nikon right about now. I would still prefer a Pentax FF than a Nikon one, but their is obviously a hole in the Pentax lineup that Pentax just don't want to fill.... ;(

02-12-2012, 09:08 PM	#2425
Chex Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The 'Stoke, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,678	Yup, I want nothing more than a FF solution to put behind some of the great glass like the FA limited series.. I have one, I would definitely be buying the 31 and 77 if they came out with a FF camera.. but now I guess I'll be looking to spend that money on a new system and unfortunately new glass to go with it. I want a D800, but the 5D Mark II is dropping in price like crazy right now as the Mark III approaches.. time to look into what my 43 Ltd would do better mounted to, Nikon or Canon.

02-12-2012, 09:13 PM	#2426
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by Chex I would definitely be buying the 31 and 77 if they came out with a FF camera.. Yup, the day a DSLR FF is announced I'd order a FA 31. And probably their 24-75. Until there's a FF I'm all set on Pentax glass, save a >500 mm lens.

02-12-2012, 09:16 PM	#2427
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	I wish Pentax would just bite the bullet, say they are going to do a FF, and put a stop to all these FF threads.

02-12-2012, 09:23 PM	#2428
Freak Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 361	Originally posted by Chex Yup, I want nothing more than a FF solution to put behind some of the great glass like the FA limited series.. I have one, I would definitely be buying the 31 and 77 if they came out with a FF camera.. but now I guess I'll be looking to spend that money on a new system and unfortunately new glass to go with it. I want a D800, but the 5D Mark II is dropping in price like crazy right now as the Mark III approaches.. time to look into what my 43 Ltd would do better mounted to, Nikon or Canon. Yes I would also like to use my FA77, D-FA 100mm Macro, and even my Sigma 50-500 is full frame compatible, I would add an FA31 and be all set for FF goodness. But it's not meant to be. I also have thought about adapting FA's to another brand of FF like the 5DMKII, now I need to contemplate it all again. (Sigh)

02-12-2012, 09:31 PM	#2429
Chex Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The 'Stoke, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,678	I don't like the fact that you need to "modify" your lens to mount to Canon EOS system... Nikon mount adapters that I saw have another piece of glass in them.. just not sure which route would be better. I would prefer the D800 over the 5D MII though.

02-12-2012, 09:56 PM - 1 Like	#2430
maxfield_photo Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,216	I'm thinking of maybe just selling all my APS-C gear, my K20d, my 50-135, my Sigma 8-16 etc, but keeping all my full frame glass, I can at least still use it on my KX. I figure my collection will get me a good ways towards a D800 body, it's the lenses that are gonna hurt. Makes me sick to my stomach. Pentax, I'm so pissed at you right now.

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