How to push the Pentax Full-Frame Idea and get that FF out faster...

ElJamoquio · 08-25-2012, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Yes, but why would they do that? To help Pentax launch a FF camera? I don't think so... they would do it on a case by case basis, for those lenses they believe there is a high enough demand.
I doubt people would go crazy about Pentax, and ready to buy every lens Sigma doesn't currently have in K-mount, just because Pentax would have a FF camera.

L.E. And exactly how large is that number? I've counted 7:
APO Macro 180mm F2.8 EX DG OS HSM
200-500mm F2.8 APO EX DG
300-800mm F5.6 EX DG APO HSM
8mm F3.5 EX DG Circular Fisheye
800mm F5.6 EX APO DG HSM
120-300mm F2.8 EX DG OS APO HSM
150mm F2.8 EX DG OS HSM APO Macro

So with the 18 full-frame lenses currently made by sigma in Pentax mount, add on maybe three or four more... that's a pretty big full-frame lineup. Far larger than any 'new' mount introduced to the world gets.

Last edited by ElJamoquio; 08-25-2012 at 11:53 AM.

Kunzite · 08-25-2012, 11:46 AM - **1 Like**

And the K-mount 200-500 f/2.8 will be delivered by flying pigs.

Medium FormatPro · 08-26-2012, 04:29 AM

Originally posted by ElJamoquio

There's about 35 lenses right now, plus whatever DA lenses and roadmap lenses you want to call FF. Current K-mount Full-Frame Lenses

Sorry but the link is just plain inaccurate. Might I again refer everyone to the B&H site, but it's also not just them - there are a number of companies selling cameras that are also able to come up with their version of about 50-60 cirrently marketed Pentax PK full frame lens'.

...And yes as Eddie1960 stated, Sigma would not have much work in getting out their fair share of new full frame lens' - in addition to the ones they already offer in PK.

RonHendriks1966 · 08-26-2012, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Yes, but why would they do that? To help Pentax launch a FF camera? I don't think so... they would do it on a case by case basis, for those lenses they believe there is a high enough demand.
I doubt people would go crazy about Pentax, and ready to buy every lens Sigma doesn't currently have in K-mount, just because Pentax would have a FF camera.

L.E. And exactly how large is that number? I've counted 7:
APO Macro 180mm F2.8 EX DG OS HSM
200-500mm F2.8 APO EX DG
300-800mm F5.6 EX DG APO HSM
8mm F3.5 EX DG Circular Fisheye
800mm F5.6 EX APO DG HSM
120-300mm F2.8 EX DG OS APO HSM
150mm F2.8 EX DG OS HSM APO Macro

Well the 120-300mm/f2.8 would be a great lens to use.

ElJamoquio · 08-26-2012, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by Medium FormatPro

Sorry but the link is just plain inaccurate.

Are you saying the list is incomplete? I'd love to add some lenses. I know the 50mm f/1.8 should be on there but right now it's only described as APS-C.

Kunzite · 08-26-2012, 07:47 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Well the 120-300mm/f2.8 would be a great lens to use.

Yes, sure, but it's not like it will be automatically launched in K-mount only because Pentax has a FF

Anvh · 08-26-2012, 08:32 AM

And sigma had the 180mm for pentax but they pulled it out of production.

eddie1960 · 08-26-2012, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

And the K-mount 200-500 f/2.8 will be delivered by flying pigs.

given what that monster costs i will be money you can get one built. pretty sure they don't have dozens on hand

eddie1960 · 08-26-2012, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by ElJamoquio

Are you saying the list is incomplete? I'd love to add some lenses. I know the 50mm f/1.8 should be on there but right now it's only described as APS-C.

DA 50 1.8 is marketed as being compatible with FF, not as an apsc lens (reality is it's likely just a reworked 1.7 with the rounded blades changing the aperture value to 1.8 and new coatings in a cheap body)

ElJamoquio · 08-26-2012, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

DA 50 1.8 is marketed as being compatible with FF, not as an apsc lens (reality is it's likely just a reworked 1.7 with the rounded blades changing the aperture value to 1.8 and new coatings in a cheap body)

I've never seen Pentax say that it was full-frame capable. That was my requirement.

RonHendriks1966 · 08-26-2012, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

given what that monster costs i will be money you can get one built. pretty sure they don't have dozens on hand

Well in stock for Canon and Nikon at this store Sigma 200-500mm F2.8 IF EX APO DG HSM Nikon | Foto Konijnenberg so seen the price, just take one with D4 or 1Dx

eddie1960 · 08-26-2012, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Well in stock for Canon and Nikon at this store Sigma 200-500mm F2.8 IF EX APO DG HSM Nikon | Foto Konijnenberg so seen the price, just take one with D4 or 1Dx

that price says to me they are getting rid of it. 10000 euros off the price!!!!

RonHendriks1966 · 08-26-2012, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

that price says to me they are getting rid of it. 10000 euros off the price!!!!

Well they either sell them a lot and restock again very quickly or the things are there for some years now

Medium FormatPro · 08-28-2012, 04:53 AM

Originally posted by Anvh

And sigma had the 180mm for pentax but they pulled it out of production

Sigma 180mm f/2.8 APO Macro EX DG OS HSM Lens (for Pentax)

Do you mean this one??

Hoping not. I have "orders in" at three different camera stores to see which one gets it first - most likely as shown in the link it will be B&H. This lens is one of only three lens I would ever purchase with a version of hsm. The 86mm front filter should be interesting too.

...And if this lens is pulled from production; would that also include the Sigma 150mm macro as well?

Anvh · 08-28-2012, 02:33 PM

The not HSM version.

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08-25-2012, 08:50 AM	#751
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by Kunzite Yes, but why would they do that? To help Pentax launch a FF camera? I don't think so... they would do it on a case by case basis, for those lenses they believe there is a high enough demand. I doubt people would go crazy about Pentax, and ready to buy every lens Sigma doesn't currently have in K-mount, just because Pentax would have a FF camera. L.E. And exactly how large is that number? I've counted 7: APO Macro 180mm F2.8 EX DG OS HSM 200-500mm F2.8 APO EX DG 300-800mm F5.6 EX DG APO HSM 8mm F3.5 EX DG Circular Fisheye 800mm F5.6 EX APO DG HSM 120-300mm F2.8 EX DG OS APO HSM 150mm F2.8 EX DG OS HSM APO Macro So with the 18 full-frame lenses currently made by sigma in Pentax mount, add on maybe three or four more... that's a pretty big full-frame lineup. Far larger than any 'new' mount introduced to the world gets. Last edited by ElJamoquio; 08-25-2012 at 11:53 AM.

08-25-2012, 11:46 AM - 1 Like	#752
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	And the K-mount 200-500 f/2.8 will be delivered by flying pigs.

08-26-2012, 04:29 AM	#753
Medium FormatPro Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Charleston & Pittsburgh Photos: Albums Posts: 1,668	Originally posted by ElJamoquio There's about 35 lenses right now, plus whatever DA lenses and roadmap lenses you want to call FF. Current K-mount Full-Frame Lenses Sorry but the link is just plain inaccurate. Might I again refer everyone to the B&H site, but it's also not just them - there are a number of companies selling cameras that are also able to come up with their version of about 50-60 cirrently marketed Pentax PK full frame lens'. ...And yes as Eddie1960 stated, Sigma would not have much work in getting out their fair share of new full frame lens' - in addition to the ones they already offer in PK.

08-26-2012, 06:16 AM	#754
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by Kunzite Yes, but why would they do that? To help Pentax launch a FF camera? I don't think so... they would do it on a case by case basis, for those lenses they believe there is a high enough demand. I doubt people would go crazy about Pentax, and ready to buy every lens Sigma doesn't currently have in K-mount, just because Pentax would have a FF camera. L.E. And exactly how large is that number? I've counted 7: APO Macro 180mm F2.8 EX DG OS HSM 200-500mm F2.8 APO EX DG 300-800mm F5.6 EX DG APO HSM 8mm F3.5 EX DG Circular Fisheye 800mm F5.6 EX APO DG HSM 120-300mm F2.8 EX DG OS APO HSM 150mm F2.8 EX DG OS HSM APO Macro Well the 120-300mm/f2.8 would be a great lens to use.

08-26-2012, 07:04 AM	#755
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by Medium FormatPro Sorry but the link is just plain inaccurate. Are you saying the list is incomplete? I'd love to add some lenses. I know the 50mm f/1.8 should be on there but right now it's only described as APS-C.

08-26-2012, 07:47 AM	#756
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Well the 120-300mm/f2.8 would be a great lens to use. Yes, sure, but it's not like it will be automatically launched in K-mount only because Pentax has a FF

08-26-2012, 08:32 AM	#757
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	And sigma had the 180mm for pentax but they pulled it out of production.

08-26-2012, 02:00 PM	#758
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	Originally posted by Kunzite And the K-mount 200-500 f/2.8 will be delivered by flying pigs. given what that monster costs i will be money you can get one built. pretty sure they don't have dozens on hand

08-26-2012, 02:02 PM	#759
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	Originally posted by ElJamoquio Are you saying the list is incomplete? I'd love to add some lenses. I know the 50mm f/1.8 should be on there but right now it's only described as APS-C. DA 50 1.8 is marketed as being compatible with FF, not as an apsc lens (reality is it's likely just a reworked 1.7 with the rounded blades changing the aperture value to 1.8 and new coatings in a cheap body)

08-26-2012, 02:18 PM	#760
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by eddie1960 DA 50 1.8 is marketed as being compatible with FF, not as an apsc lens (reality is it's likely just a reworked 1.7 with the rounded blades changing the aperture value to 1.8 and new coatings in a cheap body) I've never seen Pentax say that it was full-frame capable. That was my requirement.

08-26-2012, 02:28 PM	#761
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by eddie1960 given what that monster costs i will be money you can get one built. pretty sure they don't have dozens on hand Well in stock for Canon and Nikon at this store Sigma 200-500mm F2.8 IF EX APO DG HSM Nikon \| Foto Konijnenberg so seen the price, just take one with D4 or 1Dx

08-26-2012, 02:35 PM	#762
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Well in stock for Canon and Nikon at this store Sigma 200-500mm F2.8 IF EX APO DG HSM Nikon \| Foto Konijnenberg so seen the price, just take one with D4 or 1Dx that price says to me they are getting rid of it. 10000 euros off the price!!!!

08-26-2012, 03:17 PM	#763
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by eddie1960 that price says to me they are getting rid of it. 10000 euros off the price!!!! Well they either sell them a lot and restock again very quickly or the things are there for some years now

08-28-2012, 04:53 AM	#764
Medium FormatPro Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Charleston & Pittsburgh Photos: Albums Posts: 1,668	Originally posted by Anvh And sigma had the 180mm for pentax but they pulled it out of production Sigma 180mm f/2.8 APO Macro EX DG OS HSM Lens (for Pentax) Do you mean this one?? Hoping not. I have "orders in" at three different camera stores to see which one gets it first - most likely as shown in the link it will be B&H. This lens is one of only three lens I would ever purchase with a version of hsm. The 86mm front filter should be interesting too. ...And if this lens is pulled from production; would that also include the Sigma 150mm macro as well?

08-28-2012, 02:33 PM	#765
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	The not HSM version.