Originally posted by les24preludes I'm thinking of something like a Mac Mini. This was brilliantly successful. Small form factor, basic features, but has all the processing power.
That's a good example. I think I might be typing this message with my fourth Mac mini, so far. It was and is brilliantly successful, has a small form factor, pretty basic features, has just about enough processing power and....
...is quite expensive, rather than cheap. You can get a much mightier PC box for the same price.
A big, ugly, traditional mojo box is easy and simple to manufacture, and adding more cards, ports and thingies inside it is cheap. But try to make it as simple, small and elegant as the mini, without too many functional sacrifices, and the price is likely to go up, rather than down. The wannabe-minis of the Wintel world are either very limited in their functionality (barebones, Atom processors, etc.) or as pricy as the Mac mini.
Quote: Or go back in time to the Praktica bodies for M42. Solid and practical and did the job. Still working today, a lot of them.
This is a business model which, in the right circumstances, has worked many times.
I would love to have a new, fully manual and even mechanical body, just like my old Minolta SRT-100x, or as simple and rugged as the Pentax P30t which I still have, with a 35mm full frame sensor. I'd buy such a camera for the heck of it. Provided that I had enough money. However, I don't think too many people today would want such a thing, especially among the younger generations who haven't even seen a film SLR in action.
Besides, the Praktica bodies of a couple of decades back were inexpensive because they were old tech, as the company ended up on the "wrong" side of the iron curtain, and they didn't need to compete on a free market. Back in the heyday of the brand their models weren't really much cheaper than others of that same era. Praktica was in fact one of the innovators, rather than the undercutters of the pre-WW2 world. After Germany was reunified, the brand could no longer survive with its 'cheap and simple' product line.
In other words, I don't think it's really about a freely chosen business model. If those Prakticas or Pentax P30's had been digital, they would most certainly not had been full frame models. Back in the day it was much simpler, because everybody had a "full frame" body, and no one had to provide the light sensitive material. The users took care of that themselves.
Quote: But Pentax won't do it because it requires coming out of the intellectual bunker they've dug themselves into.
I don't think that's a fair assessment. I think Pentax has actually done better in the un-gimmickification front than Canikon or Sony, if ever so slightly, but anyway. Now that Pentax are owned by Ricoh, that kind of nice development might even get better. At least I'm hopeful.
Take the entry level DSLR models, for example. Hold each of them in your hands for a while, and you'll notice that the K-30 actually has less gimmickry inside it than the Canikon and Sony models, and it even comes weather sealed. Not bad at all, IMO.
The screen layout, the knobs, buttons, dials and bits are somewhat nicer than in some other brand models, without the multitude of super-auto-everythings. At least from the POV of a seasoned (weathered) photographer who's been accustomed to other brand models.
All in all, the Pentax models look and feel refreshingly less cluttered and gimmickified. The street-level pricing of their DSLR models doesn't seem to be much of a problem these days, either.
If Pentax did some day come up with a new full frame DSLR, I'd be tempted to choose one over the Canikons or Sony, but not because of a price difference, (which I doubt will even exist), but because of those aforementioned reasons.