Originally posted by Pål Jensen This is a persistent myth. You have no more control over DOF with FF. You have exactly the same control over DOF with APS or FF. However, you have one stop less DOF with FF than APS at the same magnification, shooting distance and aperture value. That is a minus in 99% of photography.
Nobody (I hope!) have ever been in the field insisting on shooting at a certain aperture value, at a certain magnification and distance and wished they had an APS camera instead of the FF they are using in order to get enough DOF. What you do in reality is realizing that formats aren't equal (thats why they are different formats - yes I'm also a rocket scientist
), and stop the lens down!
If you read Falk's article if you compare true equivalents there is no difference (same pixel pitch same effective focal length same effective F stop.
of course the reality is there are no direct effective comparisons possible since the product doesn't exist. a 50 1.4 on 16mp apsc though should come pretty close to the 77 ltd on a hypothetical Pentax using the 36MP sensor coming on the D800. Rendering may well be different though as pesky things like lens coatings, type of glass and number and style of blades on the aperture all effect the outcome as well. making it all kind of moot in most cases
Real world though shooting with 2.8 zooms I can get better subject isolation shooting FF at 2.8 (less DOF) @ 70/75 mm than I can on the DA50-135 @ 50mm and 2.8. Or I can stop down the Ff lens to f 4.0 and get the same level of isolation but sharper edge to edge performance (at a price premium of course, at the same price i would have to drop to a fixed f4.0 zoom on the FF losing the low light advantage of the faster lens)
But if you want a wide fast lens you have a much better chance of getting that on the FF. Performance wise I can think of no APSC wide that would give the same wide open shooting possibility the Nikon 24 1.4 would on FF (or for that matter that a leica 1 1.4 on an m9) For anyone shooting a lot of dusk/night street photography those pairings beat anything offered by any apsc camera
it goes the other way as you point out there are times the extra DOF afforded by apsc are in your favour as well. M4/3 has an even bigger advantage here and an even bigger problem getting a good fast wide
In many ways apsc hits a sweet spot (why Pentax,Canon,Nikon and Sony all chose it I assume before there was a good FF sensor available)
I own and oly as well and the 4/3 (now m4/3) made little sense to me as a guy who always wanted a bigger format and if i won a good lottery the first thing i would buy would be a MF camera not a FF
But since no big lottery win seems to be on the horizon (i'd have to actually buy a ticket for that) I have to live withing the parameters set by my paycheck. If the K5 replacement comes out at $1500 with all the Bells and whistles (24MP huge iso performance, great video performance ....etc) and a CCD based FF comes out with a lower FPS, no Video more limited High iso) for $2000 it would be a no brainer for me I'd buy the FF, If the FF is 36MP and Nikon D800 level at the price of a D800 I'd say great but I'll take the APSC for now (I'm sure others would feel different)
Thing is the $2000 idea could easily be a camera fitting with the unique in the market idea, and later as sensor pricing changes and brand market share goes up the higher end cmos variant can come out as a compliment as well
The other consideration is noise performance. If the sensors are same generation historically the FF has had about 1 stop better low light performance. Tech being what it is though apsc goes through more generations so it catches up to the FF before the FF is replaced. then the new FF comes out and the cycles starts again
Last edited by eddie1960; 02-28-2012 at 11:02 AM.