Originally posted by les24preludes I would have thought that the one sure way to sell a FF camera against Nikon and Canon models was to make it CHEAPER!
For Pentax's own sake I hope they never will take that route. Well, that is, more aggressively than they're already doing it with the K5 II, for example. That would be a sure route to business graveyard, eventually. A better approach would be the one Sony took, to make it different, á la a99 and RX-1.
Quote: Maybe by making it simpler - a cut down design built to a price.
What would be the point of a crippled design with a fancy sensor? The sensor is not the only thing that makes a good photograph. Making things simpler is often harder than making them complex, and thus often costs more. Furthermore, Pentax have already done one clever thing to improve the IQ of their top of the line APS-C body by removing the AA filter. You end up getting more resolution without a FF sensor.
Besides, price is not the only factor behind people's buying decisions. Case in point, the aforementioned Pentax K5 II. It's actually relatively cheap compared to other top of the line APS-C camera bodies. But the mainstream audience is still buying the more expensive Canikons and even Sonys.
Quote: But I'd buy a FF body that undercut existing models, and I'm sure others would. A lot of APS-C shooters want to make the switch and are simply put off by the present cost of bodies.
The fact that you/we've got GAS and want to have a FF camera but can't afford one right now is not a feasible reason for Pentax to come up with one. I think a better approach would be to try getting along with what we have now, until we can afford the fanciest cameras. Until Pentax comes up with a FF model, I think the K5 IIs is a nice substitute.
Quote: How about a FF body for under $1,000. Surely that can be done?
Well, given that no one, not even the eager copiers and undercutters from China have tried to do that yet might indicate that in reality it's not financially and/or technically feasible.
Quote: What I'm saying is "less is more". A message seemingly lost on manufacturers leapfrogging over each other for the most arcane bag of new features to add to their products, many of which are rarely used in practice.
If you ever designed something by yourself or studied some fine, premium desings, you might notice that making things simpler and well at the same time is actually pretty hard. I don't know if it was Jony Ives or some other famous designer who said something like any fool can make a product more complex, you just slap on more features. But to make a product as simple as it can possibly be, that takes a lot of effort, and doesn't come cheap.
Just start saving for the FF body now, and you might be able to buy one when it finally comes, after a year or so. I'll be doing the same.