Pentax Full Frame Dream Crushed Today

RonHendriks1966 · 03-06-2012, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

add $3000 to the 3 lens kit if the D4 is your goal

Did I mention 300mm/f2.8 with 1.4x TC?

eddie1960 · 03-06-2012, 01:43 PM

ok so for you the 4 lens and tc kit with d4 a mere 20 grand give or take - nice easy monthly payments available just prick your finger for some blood sign this form handing over your first born and your soul and it will be yours to take home bwahahaha

RonHendriks1966 · 03-06-2012, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

ok so for you the 4 lens and tc kit with d4 a mere 20 grand give or take - nice easy monthly payments available just prick your finger for some blood sign this form handing over your first born and your soul and it will be yours to take home bwahahaha

I discovered that working with two camera body's is very nice.................So maybe two D4's.

O and a few big and fast memorycards, since my SDHC cards won't fit. Having at least one f2.0 (or f1.4) lens would also be great.

Wow my Pentax kit is cheap

eddie1960 · 03-06-2012, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

I discovered that working with two camera body's is very nice.................So maybe two D4's.

O and a few big and fast memorycards, since my SDHC cards won't fit. Having at least one f2.0 (or f1.4) lens would also be great.

Wow my Pentax kit is cheap

ok since you want all that extra I'll need you to get your wife to prick her thumb an deposit her soul as well

it's a huge investment going full on Nikon pro huh

a lot of guys i know here own the lenses but lease the bodies. lenses are a better investment of course and bodies devalue rapidly and need reasonably frequent upgrades - every 3-4 years versus a lens being a minimum 10-12 year cycle barring any stupid accidents ( so a lease gives a nice clean tax write off)

Still cheaper than it was to fund a medium format setup back in the day (a nice hassy kit or RX67 mamiya added up to 15-20 grand in a heartbeat)

bossa · 03-06-2012, 02:03 PM

The K-5 doesn't look so bad at all in this side-by-side view.

Side by Side Comparison: Digital Photography Review

PS: Apart from the fact those clowns at DPR have left out quite a lot of spec data it looks pretty good on paper up against these other two machines.

eddie1960 · 03-06-2012, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by bossa

The K-5 doesn't look so bad at all in this side-by-side view.

Side by Side Comparison: Digital Photography Review

i love the way dpreview leaves features off the K5 list. apparently it wasn't worth mentioning it too is a mag alloy body

also it apparently has no colour space or filter arrays, and is missing an AF assist light as well. and of course there are no exposure modes

they really are hopeless over there

I don't thing id class the 5D3 or D800 mid size slrs either lol

ElJamoquio · 03-06-2012, 02:28 PM

You have to do some digging to find out how awesome Pentax cameras are.

It amazes me how ineptly marketed they are.

RonHendriks1966 · 03-06-2012, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

it's a huge investment going full on Nikon pro huh

a lot of guys i know here own the lenses but lease the bodies. lenses are a better investment of course and bodies devalue rapidly and need reasonably frequent upgrades - every 3-4 years versus a lens being a minimum 10-12 year cycle barring any stupid accidents ( so a lease gives a nice clean tax write off)

Well for the time being not an option for me. Who knows what the future brings, but I would want a nice FF (or yes APS-H) Pentax camera when the specs are right.

**monochrome** · 03-06-2012, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

add $3000 to the 3 lens kit if the D4 is your goal

after being intrigued i went on Vistek (local pro shop) and did a trial cart with the 3 zooms and 4 prime an 800E and a D700 backup (no flashes)
with tax $20350 CAD (I imagine the monthly lease with a close to zero buyout at the end would come in at about $700 a month on that. If I thought I could consistently generate the net income to cover that for the next 3 years i'd be in there tomorrow placing my order, but that would require me to get more serious about pursuing photography work and i am essentially a lazy git

Holy damn - that's a small CAR!!

bossa · 03-06-2012, 03:17 PM

Well you don't have to buy those lenses. You could just 'get by' with a 24, 50, 85 and a 135 or 200 with a TC. They do make cheaper lenses with great IQ.

**Ash** · 03-06-2012, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Holy damn - that's a small CAR!!

Yeah, but Eddie's FF setup has better IQ than the small car...

normhead · 03-06-2012, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Yeah, but Eddie's FF setup has better IQ than the small car...

I won't believe you until I see the comparison photos...

**monochrome** · 03-06-2012, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by Ash

Yeah, but Eddie's FF setup has better IQ than the small car...

The car has a bigger viewfinder even if it isn't body-on-frame.

eddie1960 · 03-06-2012, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by normhead

I won't believe you until I see the comparison photos...

LOL

I have seen some stuff shot by a friend on a D3 with the 3 zooms and the 85. they are all damn fine lenses - cut not worth taking a mortgage for in my case

gtl · 03-06-2012, 09:38 PM

Problem is the nikons weigh a ton. Arghh I just need a FF for FA limiteds. Problem solved. Till then... Leica looks to be the way in the far future.

03-06-2012, 02:03 PM	#275
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546	The K-5 doesn't look so bad at all in this side-by-side view. Side by Side Comparison: Digital Photography Review PS: Apart from the fact those clowns at DPR have left out quite a lot of spec data it looks pretty good on paper up against these other two machines. Last edited by bossa; 03-06-2012 at 02:38 PM.

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03-06-2012, 01:26 PM	#271
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by eddie1960 add $3000 to the 3 lens kit if the D4 is your goal Did I mention 300mm/f2.8 with 1.4x TC?

03-06-2012, 01:43 PM	#272
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	ok so for you the 4 lens and tc kit with d4 a mere 20 grand give or take - nice easy monthly payments available just prick your finger for some blood sign this form handing over your first born and your soul and it will be yours to take home bwahahaha

03-06-2012, 01:54 PM	#273
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by eddie1960 ok so for you the 4 lens and tc kit with d4 a mere 20 grand give or take - nice easy monthly payments available just prick your finger for some blood sign this form handing over your first born and your soul and it will be yours to take home bwahahaha I discovered that working with two camera body's is very nice.................So maybe two D4's. O and a few big and fast memorycards, since my SDHC cards won't fit. Having at least one f2.0 (or f1.4) lens would also be great. Wow my Pentax kit is cheap

03-06-2012, 02:02 PM	#274
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 I discovered that working with two camera body's is very nice.................So maybe two D4's. O and a few big and fast memorycards, since my SDHC cards won't fit. Having at least one f2.0 (or f1.4) lens would also be great. Wow my Pentax kit is cheap ok since you want all that extra I'll need you to get your wife to prick her thumb an deposit her soul as well it's a huge investment going full on Nikon pro huh a lot of guys i know here own the lenses but lease the bodies. lenses are a better investment of course and bodies devalue rapidly and need reasonably frequent upgrades - every 3-4 years versus a lens being a minimum 10-12 year cycle barring any stupid accidents ( so a lease gives a nice clean tax write off) Still cheaper than it was to fund a medium format setup back in the day (a nice hassy kit or RX67 mamiya added up to 15-20 grand in a heartbeat)

03-06-2012, 02:08 PM	#276
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	Originally posted by bossa The K-5 doesn't look so bad at all in this side-by-side view. Side by Side Comparison: Digital Photography Review i love the way dpreview leaves features off the K5 list. apparently it wasn't worth mentioning it too is a mag alloy body also it apparently has no colour space or filter arrays, and is missing an AF assist light as well. and of course there are no exposure modes they really are hopeless over there I don't thing id class the 5D3 or D800 mid size slrs either lol

03-06-2012, 02:28 PM	#277
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	You have to do some digging to find out how awesome Pentax cameras are. It amazes me how ineptly marketed they are.

03-06-2012, 03:03 PM	#278
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by eddie1960 it's a huge investment going full on Nikon pro huh a lot of guys i know here own the lenses but lease the bodies. lenses are a better investment of course and bodies devalue rapidly and need reasonably frequent upgrades - every 3-4 years versus a lens being a minimum 10-12 year cycle barring any stupid accidents ( so a lease gives a nice clean tax write off) Well for the time being not an option for me. Who knows what the future brings, but I would want a nice FF (or yes APS-H) Pentax camera when the specs are right.

03-06-2012, 03:07 PM	#279
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by eddie1960 add $3000 to the 3 lens kit if the D4 is your goal after being intrigued i went on Vistek (local pro shop) and did a trial cart with the 3 zooms and 4 prime an 800E and a D700 backup (no flashes) with tax $20350 CAD (I imagine the monthly lease with a close to zero buyout at the end would come in at about $700 a month on that. If I thought I could consistently generate the net income to cover that for the next 3 years i'd be in there tomorrow placing my order, but that would require me to get more serious about pursuing photography work and i am essentially a lazy git Holy damn - that's a small CAR!!

03-06-2012, 03:17 PM	#280
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546	Well you don't have to buy those lenses. You could just 'get by' with a 24, 50, 85 and a 135 or 200 with a TC. They do make cheaper lenses with great IQ.

03-06-2012, 04:23 PM	#281
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Originally posted by monochrome Holy damn - that's a small CAR!! Yeah, but Eddie's FF setup has better IQ than the small car...

03-06-2012, 04:26 PM	#282
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Quote: Yeah, but Eddie's FF setup has better IQ than the small car... I won't believe you until I see the comparison photos...

03-06-2012, 06:32 PM	#283
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Ash Yeah, but Eddie's FF setup has better IQ than the small car... The car has a bigger viewfinder even if it isn't body-on-frame.

03-06-2012, 08:53 PM	#284
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	Originally posted by normhead I won't believe you until I see the comparison photos... LOL I have seen some stuff shot by a friend on a D3 with the 3 zooms and the 85. they are all damn fine lenses - cut not worth taking a mortgage for in my case

03-06-2012, 09:38 PM	#285
gtl Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 349	Problem is the nikons weigh a ton. Arghh I just need a FF for FA limiteds. Problem solved. Till then... Leica looks to be the way in the far future.