Originally posted by rawr There is no need for them to have all the pieces in place at once. They can ramp it up over time, just as Canon, Nikon, Phase One etc have done. None of those got into their current market positions in one big-bang.
True, but then they have to take losses because they'll have lower sales volumes. That's the key issue is whether Ricoh is willing to take years worth of losses to break into a smallish market.
Big whup that Nikon will sell 35,000 FF units/month and Canon another 15,000. That's about 500,000 per year on a new release, which will taper off dramatically to much less in 3 years. What carries sales then is lenses and accessories.
What this tells you is that for a 5-year run of cameras Nikon will sell 3-4 million units at $3k each for the D800.
Pentax would sell what? Maybe 5% that on their FF because it would be the same price but with a far lesser array of lenses and other products?
And compete against the D700 which is still in production and going to be below $2,000/unit soon?
Pentax would have to use the same Sony sensors as Nikon and need to sell the K-FF against the D700 at the same price, but realistically, it's Nikon lenses and flashes vs. Pentax's that will make or break the sale.
And the concept that Pentax can make a cheap, small FF is nonsense because the sensor price sets a minimum sales price and for that much $$$ you need features equal to or greater than a top-of-the-line APS-C model, which is expensive. No cost cutting there or you lose even more sales to Nikon.
And the whole small FF body thing has been done to death. They are large cameras to support large lenses and brace a large sensor with shutters that blast away at high velocity and FPS. The offloading circuitry to support FF files from current Sony sensors demands larger cameras, and will for some time.
Sometimes there is not enough space in a market for the brand you like. That's just the reality here. We are a couple of years away at least before Pentax FF comes into focus I predict. A price war between Canon and Nikon and Sony is what is really needed. Then we'll see some action.