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07-31-2012, 05:43 PM   #691
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Forget EVFs.

What I'd like to know about this Emacs guy is why his avatar looks exactly like a Nazi party flag with a xi instead of a swastika.

07-31-2012, 06:27 PM   #692
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We will have no further personal attacks in this thread, or it will close and infractions will be issued.
Back to topic please.
Pentax FF - coming? yes. When? Unsure... how long's a piece of string.
But it will be a welcome addition to the lineup.
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The word Emacs is the name an old Text Editor.
The Avatar just looks like a nice letter 'E' to me.

People here need to try and make things less personal and stop laughing at comments no matter how strange they may appear to one's self. Anyone who's not prepared to be diplomatic should rethink how successful that attitude is unless their real intent is to cause conflict, rather than communicate in a meaningful way. In case of the latter, I'd say they should leave the forum willingly or not.
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Seriously, I couldn't care less what Emacs' opinion is. I just saw the avatar and was frankly shocked.

And I know perfectly well what Emacs is, and that is not the logo for it.

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I wasn't aiming my comments specifically at you. ;-)
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QuoteOriginally posted by RXrenesis8 Quote
My friend has a 7D, and the AF points and grid being on a transparent LCD is pretty damn inspired. Now imagine overlaying whatever you want in one, Histograms, custom focus points, focus-peaking live in the viewfinder... The future is gonna be cool!
I almost forgot about AF points in the VF lol, got used too much on my K-x's somewhat empty screen. =)) Well, if that could be done... but I guess it will make the VF hump significantly bigger
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I'd rather have an EVF over the crappy OVFs we have nowadays.

Even the VF on high-end cameras like the K-5 is a joke compared to the VF I have in my Pentax ME (which was an entry level SLR, not to mention it's like half the size and FULL FRAME). Dammit, I would only shoot film if that was an option just to have full frame and a VF that doesn't suck.
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QuoteOriginally posted by hcarvalhoalves Quote
I'd rather have an EVF over the crappy OVFs we have nowadays.

Even the VF on high-end cameras like the K-5 is a joke compared to the VF I have in my Pentax ME (which was an entry level SLR, not to mention it's like half the size and FULL FRAME). Dammit, I would only shoot film if that was an option just to have full frame and a VF that doesn't suck.
Interesting. I only have experience with the k5, kx and D800 ovf. The D800 trouces the apsc ovf. No contest there. Any idea how would the Pentax ME compare to the D800?

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QuoteOriginally posted by gtl Quote
Interesting. I only have experience with the k5, kx and D800 ovf. The D800 trouces the apsc ovf. No contest there. Any idea how would the Pentax ME compare to the D800?
I believe it's near, but ME had a big VF even for 35mm standards. And it's a fraction the size of a D800...
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Well can't really compare film to digital slrs I guess. Still hoping for a compact FF from
Pentax next year!
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The D800 viewfinder is about 70% of the ME viewfinder.
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QuoteOriginally posted by gtl Quote
Well can't really compare film to digital slrs I guess. Still hoping for a compact FF from
Pentax next year!
If Pentax had a clue, they would've released a digital K1000 (full frame, roughly same size and VF) and called it a day. With all these great K-mount lenses floating around since day one it amazes me they went so deep on the DA line. Bonus points if they styled it like the old one, retro is a trend.

Instead they just throw their brand and legacy out of the window and try to reinvent the wheel on each camera they release.
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QuoteOriginally posted by hcarvalhoalves Quote
If Pentax had a clue, they would've released a digital K1000 (full frame, roughly same size and VF) and called it a day. With all these great K-mount lenses floating around since day one it amazes me they went so deep on the DA line. Bonus points if they styled it like the old one, retro is a trend.

Instead they just throw their brand and legacy out of the window and try to reinvent the wheel on each camera they release.
Now I wouldn't call Pentax's outstanding backwards compatibily "throwing their legacy out of the window."

But I totally agree with you on the first part. They could have released a barebone FF years ago. A little FF DSLR that doesn't even have SR or WR. Just to make the user-base happy, test the FF waters, and to capture that part of the market before others do. If they made it small and affordable enough it could be a gigantic hit.

But the culture in Japan is very different. Having a high quantity of features is very important there. The camera that I proposed sounds rediculous to them.
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QuoteOriginally posted by dcshooter Quote
What I'd like to know about this Emacs guy is why his avatar looks exactly like a Nazi party flag
That's why emacs is on my ignore list. I feel personally offended. Long ago, I kindly asked emacs to change his avatar and I reported his avatar to Adam and I am actually rather shocked that he did not act at all. And I am sure emacs does exactly intend to provoque the kind of reaction he gets. IMHO, he deserves to be banned immediately and w/o further notice.
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People here need to try and make things less personal
Not when it comes to racism or people obviously sympathizing with it or their symbols. Over here in Germany, we received an education to never ever again let it happen. No space for tolerance here. We even have laws which would apply here ...

But as such discussions heat up quickly and emacs is on my ignore list anyway, this is going to be my only comment on the matter.

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I still don't understand the reason 10% of Pentax shooters want a FF DSLR. I know Pentax dosen't know either. And that's why they are in no hurry to build one, it just isn't worth there time and money.
What is the big advantage? Wider field of view? I just back up and get the same shot as my K1000 or I change lenses. What else is better?
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