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08-01-2012, 04:18 PM   #721
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QuoteOriginally posted by stormcloud Quote
correct me if i'm wrong but if you get the same pixels from cropping ff as you do aps-c then your talking effectively the same sensor pixel density therefor you lose any manufacturing gains that will give you better dynamic range and noise performance - so if filling the frame isn't a advantage for aps-c then dynamic range and noise isn't an advantage for ff??
Don't forget the waist off money spend on the bigger sensor you'r not using with cropping. With the same image as an end result you need bigger lenses or take a walk towards your pictureframe to make it the same.

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As an aside: I saw mention that the new Nikon D600 will be a FF sensor in a D7000 body. I don't know how true this is though. If it is true then there's hardly any reason that Pentax shouldn't 'upgrade' the K-5 with a FF sensor.

The K-30 is pretty well featured, is decently priced and, unless there's going to be two extra models above it in the APS-C line, I can see the K-3 coming in at around 1200. That leaves extra room for a FF at around the introductory price the K-5 came in at. I wouldn't be surprised at all.

PS: I suspect a K-3 and a K-02 will be announced any day. That could fill in the range up to (or nearly up to) the intro' price of the K-5.
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QuoteOriginally posted by dcshooter Quote
Forget EVFs.

What I'd like to know about this Emacs guy is why his avatar looks exactly like a Nazi party flag with a xi instead of a swastika.
Probably because he's a nazi. What did you think you stupid ...

That's just retarded, shut it please.

BTW, where are the mods? This thread is nuts.
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QuoteOriginally posted by falconeye Quote
That's why emacs is on my ignore list. I feel personally offended. Long ago, I kindly asked emacs to change his avatar and I reported his avatar to Adam and I am actually rather shocked that he did not act at all. And I am sure emacs does exactly intend to provoque the kind of reaction he gets. IMHO, he deserves to be banned immediately and w/o further notice.

Not when it comes to racism or people obviously sympathizing with it or their symbols. Over here in Germany, we received an education to never ever again let it happen. No space for tolerance here. We even have laws which would apply here ...

But as such discussions heat up quickly and emacs is on my ignore list anyway, this is going to be my only comment on the matter.
I see the white circle on a red background as being a derivation from 'that' flag but the symbol is just an E. But in the end though, I suppose that it is a Nazi flag as it appears to be the intent.

I have difficulties with the person in question too but I will say no more on this subject here.

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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Don't forget the waist off money spend on the bigger sensor you'r not using with cropping. With the same image as an end result you need bigger lenses or take a walk towards your pictureframe to make it the same.
I assume you're only talking about long lenses (i.e. perspective change of 1.5mm focal length change isn't appreciable)?
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I think at the end of the day having both is the way to go
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Let's just get back to FF rumors please

btw, if Nikon can fit an FF sensor in the D7000 body, that is probably because they don't have the SR mechanism around the sensor....
As for FF in a K-5 body, it could be possible but, can Pentax still fit the SR stuff in it with a sensor almost twice as big?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Wired Quote
I think at the end of the day having both is the way to go
That's my eventual plan. I just hope I can make it real without having to resort to Nikon.

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QuoteOriginally posted by fikkser Quote
Probably because he's a nazi. What did you think you stupid ...

That's just retarded, shut it please.

BTW, where are the mods? This thread is nuts.
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A march announcement for FF development is certainly possible.
But that doesn't mean much, they've announced the 645D quite a few times .

They certainly can pull it off within a year from now, so they might just announce it in march.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ElJamoquio Quote
I assume you're only talking about long lenses (i.e. perspective change of 1.5mm focal length change isn't appreciable)?
Well I'm mostly talking about longer lenses, starting from 85mm on aps-c. I do some sports and I'm not allowed to walk on the field during a game, so I would need a longer lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by LamyTax Quote
A march announcement for FF development is certainly possible.
But that doesn't mean much, they've announced the 645D quite a few times.

They certainly can pull it off within a year from now, so they might just announce it in march.

What if they were already working on one before the Ricoh switch? Then it could even be unveiled in September. Together with a FF lineup... The the three FA ltds in DFA form with WR and DC motors.

I know it's not realistic; just trying to rescue this thread.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Fl_Gulfer Quote
CONS ... more difficult to fill the frame with distant, easily-spooked subjects like birds
Just crop to APS C dimensions and you have your "fill" or am I overlooking something here.

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