Originally posted by LamyTax And the fact that you've speculated about it before I joined makes my input less credible? I see. Did I miss some kind of entry ritual to the forum? Where can I sign up? :P
Of course it doesn't! You may, however, have not had the opportunity to trawl through the various arguments that have been put in the myriad of threads on this subject. I was attempting to show you a bit of courtesy, in that regard. You apparently took it as condescension, which was not intended.
Originally posted by LamyTax Yes, that's sound logic. What makes you think Pentax Ricoh Imaging Corp. is not already working on that?
I don't believe one way or the other, which I thought I was expressing. I would like to think they were, but I was simply pointing out that an absence of information doesn't indicate they are or aren't.
Originally posted by LamyTax Which I've also said. They just need to refine their calculations, add new coatings, maybe change the design a little. Minor things. Easy to put out a full range of new lenses.
Well, it seems we agree on that much.
Originally posted by LamyTax The Q was a tiny project that barely made it through the Hoya valley. The lenses aren't incredibly complex designs, and the Q itself is merely a compact camera, although very good at that. Compare this to the complexity of engineering a large DSLR.
There's no question about the relative size of the projects involved, but I was referring to the information flow prior to launch.
Originally posted by LamyTax Full frame in the digital age is a whole different thing to what it was in the analog age. If you don't have a quality line up of lenses available -- at least have a proper kit zoom (DFA* 28-70), the thing will not sell well enough. You've seen how terrible Sony's start into full frame has been. The camera certainly was nice, but the market didn't like it very much.
And again, we're talking Pentax Ricoh now. No more Hoya. They want to do things the right way.
Amen to that last point.
Sony's position in the DSLR marketplace is an interesting study in marketing, all to itself. I think they've attempted to position themselves as a short-term challenger to Canon and Nikon, and the best face you can put on that is to say they've had mixed success. One might have thought they'd have made more of the Carl Zeiss lens offerings, but maybe CZ is keeping their powder dry for a model of their own.
I'm not sure what the definition of "selling well" would be in this segment, though. Obviously, it's got to be something more ambitious than just covering development costs in an appropriate time-scale, but I imagine the D800 has set something of a benchmark here.