Originally posted by falconeye There is a reason why always people who don't understand physics expect miracles to happen.
As we say: "
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
Obviously, dSLRs are magic for most photographers posting here, like stormcloud. Nothing wrong with that.
For the rest of us though, it is sufficiently advanced technology and just be affirmed that some unpleasant laws of nature limit what magic you are going to receive next, and what not.
E.g., a big part of the noise isn't coming from the camera, it is already coming from the light itself -- light itself is noisy (aka photon shot noise). And light field cameras are severely restricted by diffraction as is known since 100 years and never changed. God made no exception for the founder of Lytro whatever his marketing may Americans make believe. You want to read more about it from
the ones who own all the relevant patents (it's not Lytro ...).
your missing the point i was making though - the limitations of current sensor technology mean larger is better - but that might not always be the case if there is a fundamental change in the technology - like i brought up earlier silicon/gold etched lenses is such a fundamental change - lenses with no distortion at all - no chromatic aberations - sure that before these new lens were made public most people would have considered that impossible
so i find it entirely possible that in the future a sensor might be developed that its size makes no impact on noise in high sensitivity or dynamic range - so claims about the laws of physics and how they apply to todays sensor technology might be completely bypassed by tomorrows technology
my statement about lytro was just an example of something different - and the super conducting sensor was just an example of a possible way to eliminate noise (now if they invent a room temp super conductor camera sensors will be a really minor change in the grand scheme)
now the nature of light itself certainly might impose some restrictions on what is possible even with noiseless sensors and perfect lenses but that is indeed an area that i am not upto speed and shall defer to you on - but with perfect lenses that weigh very little and noiseless sensor i would perfectly happy with aps c - actually i am happy with aps-c since the k-5 does everything i want from an image quality perspective - only area i care to see improved is autofocus tracking