Originally posted by Blue Pentax had the opportunity to strike first with an economical FF with K-5 quality body. Instead, Nikon hit with the 600 and 800, Canon with the 6d and Sony with their stuff. All of them are between $2100 to $3000. Before that was the D700. A lot of this getting behind had to do with the battling of the first Hoya take over, the Hoya takeover, and the sale to Ricoh. All that said, I am glad Pentax and the K-mount are still around.
Pure wishful thinking and fantasy! How in the world can Pentax hope to come up with
an economical FF camera when it hasn't even rolled out a a non-working dummy, a prototype proof of concept model much less a real working production model that the average Joe can buy in the shops or online? Pentax may historically have rolled out affordable APS-C cameras but never that much cheaper than offerings from other brands.
Nikon and Canon have produced many iterations of FF cameras for a long time. Canon released their first FF camera way back in 2005 with the EOS 5D, that's eons as far as digital technology is concerned. Over that time the two companies have sold enough FF cameras to be able to bring down the FF price point. Now with their new crop of lower priced FF cameras, they have effectively fractured the market and bridged the gap between APS-C and FF to a point that there is now way in hell Pentax or other brands can hope to claim a stake in the affordable FF segment.
Pentax is and has always been behind the curve in digital photography. The pre-Hoya Pentax management planted the seeds of it's current predicament by opting to bank on APS-C only image circle lenses with the DA range of lenses. Perhaps as a late entrant in digital photography it could never have been able to compete with making cameras with bigger sensors, and in the context of being on the brink of financial collapse and a user base who can't/won't spend too much, it made perfectly good sense to stick with a 6 megapixel APS-C CCD sensor as the base for its bland DSLRs. While Nikon and Canon sold loads of cameras with their D70/D50/D40 and EOS300/350 range of cameras, our own *ist cameras were simply too late to market, too expensive, not competitive feature wise and too hard to find. So while later Pentax cameras did achieve good sales, good reputation, closed the gap with APS-C offerings from other brands, and increased the user base, it was and still is a minnow in the wider context.
Bottomline is no FF proof of concept, much less a commercially available model available for sale means that the very idea of
an affordable FF camera is nothing but wishful thinking. What opportunity to strike first? Developing a FF camera isn't simply a case of scaling up an APS-C camera and the lack of suitable lenses is a major obstacle. The FA lenses are already long in the tooth and while they can deliver good image quality, the benchmark of AF speed is always there. Pentax can't bridge the limitation of slow focusing in relation to the competition unless there's a complete revamp of the lens range. And what about the hopelessly outdated flash system? There just aren't enough Pentax/Ricoh development engineers to ever match what Canikon have available. How can Pentax have any hope in hell to play catch-up much less achieve close to what Canon and Nikon have currently on offer?
If one want to point to the 645D to show Pentax's capability to produce a large sensor camera, remember the 645D production run was initially targeted at no more than 1,000 units. Even if production was ramped up to 2,000 units, the 645D is a mere sideshow in the bigger scheme of things. With a noticeable lack of new lenses, especially on the wide end, it is hard for the 645D to be a contender particularly when the way cheaper Nikon D800 delivers stunning resolution and has a much wider range of lenses that can be used. Pentax may still be able to deliver a decent APS-C in the new K-5 II/K-5 IIs but that's a market segment that has limited growth prospects. Affordable FF cameras is the photographic sweet spot at the moment, not APS-C anymore...