Originally posted by mecrox My understanding is that the majority of buyers just want a camera and buy a max of one extra lens, if any, over the kit lens. They aren't buying into a system in that sense and almost all the stuff on here about systems, lenses, format wars, DR, sensor performance et al really isn't of any interest to them. The systems for the "serious photographer" with a deep pocketbook may be the most profitable part but it is the sheer volume of the rest, the "just a camera" buyers, which keeps the whole show on the road.
Again, I suspect folks on here wildly overestimate the numbers of "serious photographers" and big spenders compared to the overall market.
The objections which folks on here have against MILCs don't really apply to the majority of those who buy them. They work just fine and dandy for their intended market and increasingly fine for almost any market as MILCs mature and become more sophisticated. There's a bit of snobbery about MILCs from among The Serious....
I'll chuck in the
rumour that Sony will have an FF NEX with lenses within 18 months. I just don't see how the Pentax impasse can continue with the landscape changing like this. We'd all like to them to do better than well but few on here seem to think that can happen with just a few APS-C DSLRs to carry the load. Rum, very rum.
That does look serious about the FF Nex, i wasn't sure Sony could technically do it, considering the corner problems they had with the Nex7. A friend of mine that i shoot with bought the Nikon D600. I thought about doing the same, but was happy with my existing K5 performance, so bought a Nex 5n instead
It was a good decision on my part because the Nex has opened up my eyes regarding camera equipment:
a. the short registraion distance of the e-mount enables adapters to be made that allows many different mfr lenses to be hung. In my situation, a $20 adapter allowed me to use a Pentax M 100mm f2.8 prime which has worked out well. This is a brilliant situation for Sony, a camera body that can use lenses from any other company, just about; and plenty of 3rd party mfr dying to build adapters for them. Can't say that about the K01 in its present incarnation.
b. I used to think of focus peaking as just another manual lens technique. But in some ways, its an advancement over AF systems, in that it will show one the DOF over a proposed image. Also, when i see the flickr of those yellow or red contrast areas in focus peaking, i know whether the focus area is behind or in front of the subject.. As one manually adjusts focus, you can see real time, what's happening to your setup - wonderful.
c. So what i'm driving at, is that instead of letting camera makers and gushing camera reviewers decide what kind of camera i should buy, there seem to be a lot of users out there that are buying what they need. I would like to think that the camera buying public is getting more sophisticated in their choices.
Originally posted by beholder3 Then on the MILC market: Currently it simply is stagnant. It is not eating away into DSLR territory in a big way. That was the case in the past. Now: stagnant. Look at the official numbers. It is a significant market now but it's not really the big threat.
Same on the tiny FF market "eating away" at APSC. Yes it does, but incredibly slow. 5% of sales now and Nikon targeting 8,x % already forces them to throw out their stuff with huge drops in prices, because the demand is simply not there. No other camera failed it's starting price so massively like the D600 (3 months -25%). Trying to gain market share at all cost.
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I've always thought that Nikon's strategy about focusing so much effort into new FF models, not only has potential benefits, but potential risks as well. What if the majority of the camera buying population looks at the FF models, and yawns??? Nikon is left with a lot of product on shelves and older aps(c) models that haven't been updated recently. I'm not saying that there aren't serious photographers out there that love their FF cameras. I am saying that not everyone out there will benefit from a FF camera. As a recent two system owner (Sony Nex and Pentax K5), I find myself less concerned about what any manufacturer does, since i'm no longer emotionally committed to any one model line. Its what tool will benefit my photography, that i most care about. In the end, i only have control over where i spend my money and how i use a camera, and no control over what Nikon, Canon, Pentax or Sony pick to manufacture and market.
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