FF Under Development

leonsroar · 10-08-2012, 11:08 AM - **1 Like**

Pentax Japan is currently conducting touch & try tour in Osaka (last week), Tokyo (6th/7th), and Nagoya (next week).
At Tokyo session on 7th, Mr. Mikio Tanaka, a professional photographer mentioned that Pentax is currently developing FF.
In addition, after the seminar with Mr. Tanaka, several pentaxian over there have confirmed with Pentax reps that what Mr. Tanaka talked about is nothing inappropriate and/or confidential.
Per those reps, they also have just been notified from top management about that right before the seminar in Tokyo (morning on 6th).
The other pentaxian at the seminar with his D800E was regretfully told by a rep that he could wait for a more while.

Additional note, those pentaxians were surprised at II's AF in dark.
Some with D800 is saying it is better than D800 while the other also with D800 is saying D800 is still better than that.

As no mention about ETA at this time, I will be getting K-5IIs anyway then would add the FF if it turned out true...
Hope to have financial struggles.

normhead · 10-08-2012, 11:12 AM

It took them 5 years to get the 645D out the door.... just saying.

ElJamoquio · 10-08-2012, 11:20 AM

Thanks, and interesting.

RonHendriks1966 · 10-08-2012, 11:23 AM - **3 Likes**

wow great news, but not at all surprising, since we all still beleave in santaclause, so 2013 it is!

Kunzite · 10-08-2012, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by normhead

It took them 5 years to get the 645D out the door.... just saying.

Because Hoya postponed the project, and because they had to change the sensor and most of the hardware.

lensroar, in official interviews Pentax admitted they're working on "full frame technologies"; can you tell if this is the same thing, or he was talking about a "full frame camera"? Thank you.

leonsroar · 10-08-2012, 11:38 AM

I'm sorry but only what I saw on the other forum is "full-size"...

lammie200 · 10-08-2012, 12:23 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by leonsroar

Hope to have financial struggles.

??? I will hope that you do if that is what you want. For me, I just hope to have financials.

Jean Poitiers · 10-08-2012, 12:43 PM

Thanks for the info ... maybe 2013 will turn out to be a better year than expected ... J

Vylen · 10-08-2012, 01:52 PM

Indeed, it's been mentioned before in at least the interview at Photokina that they're already working on "full-frame technologies" so this bit of news doesn't come in as much of a surprise.

It does, though, keep things make things more hopeful, but it doesn't guarantee that anything will come out of it in the near future.

photonpen · 10-08-2012, 01:59 PM

If they go full-full-frame next year -any guesses as to if they would tend to go with a 24mp /Sony -type sensor or not?

Ron B.

illdefined · 10-08-2012, 02:02 PM - **1 Like**

I hate how Pentax have let things get this far - leaving its users scrambling over rumored, translated, and completely ambiguous scraps of 'hope'

JinDesu · 10-08-2012, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by leonsroar

Additional note, those pentaxians were surprised at II's AF in dark.
Some with D800 is saying it is better than D800 while the other also with D800 is saying D800 is still better than that.

The quoted bit is impressive, in my opinion.

cali92rs · 10-08-2012, 02:27 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by illdefined

I hate how Pentax have let things get this far - leaving its users scrambling over rumored, translated, and completely ambiguous scraps of 'hope'

I can totally see Pentax releasing a FF camera in 2013...and I can also totally see Pentax not releasing one and people getting excited about quotes and telling us to wait until 2014.

Franky2step · 10-08-2012, 02:29 PM

I think Pentax/Ricoh are working on FX zooms as they currently don't have a suitable offering. FA primes are there, but pretty sure they don't intend to offer a FX camera which needs a third party lens to take advantage of it. JMHO

**RobA_Oz** · 10-08-2012, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by Vylen

Indeed, it's been mentioned before in at least the interview at Photokina that they're already working on "full-frame technologies" so this bit of news doesn't come in as much of a surprise.

It does, though, keep things make things more hopeful, but it doesn't guarantee that anything will come out of it in the near future.

It makes you wonder why Pentax, not known as a second-party supplier to others in industry AFAIK (excusing the Honeywell re-branding in the USA during the 1960s), would be working on "full-frame technologies" if it wasn't working on a corresponding body. Indeed, aside from the sensor, what is exclusively "full-frame" about anything in a camera, DSLR or otherwise? All the rest, from body package to memory, seems to be merely a matter of scale or processing speed. I suppose you could say the same about the sensor, too, to some extent at least, but if you're not making your own then you're adapting someone else's for your own purposes.

10-08-2012, 11:08 AM - 1 Like	#1
leonsroar Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: California Photos: Gallery Posts: 102	FF Under Development Pentax Japan is currently conducting touch & try tour in Osaka (last week), Tokyo (6th/7th), and Nagoya (next week). At Tokyo session on 7th, Mr. Mikio Tanaka, a professional photographer mentioned that Pentax is currently developing FF. In addition, after the seminar with Mr. Tanaka, several pentaxian over there have confirmed with Pentax reps that what Mr. Tanaka talked about is nothing inappropriate and/or confidential. Per those reps, they also have just been notified from top management about that right before the seminar in Tokyo (morning on 6th). The other pentaxian at the seminar with his D800E was regretfully told by a rep that he could wait for a more while. Additional note, those pentaxians were surprised at II's AF in dark. Some with D800 is saying it is better than D800 while the other also with D800 is saying D800 is still better than that. As no mention about ETA at this time, I will be getting K-5IIs anyway then would add the FF if it turned out true... Hope to have financial struggles.

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RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	wow great news, but not at all surprising, since we all still beleave in santaclause, so 2013 it is!

10-08-2012, 11:36 AM	#5
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by normhead It took them 5 years to get the 645D out the door.... just saying. Because Hoya postponed the project, and because they had to change the sensor and most of the hardware. lensroar, in official interviews Pentax admitted they're working on "full frame technologies"; can you tell if this is the same thing, or he was talking about a "full frame camera"? Thank you.

10-08-2012, 11:38 AM	#6
leonsroar Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: California Photos: Gallery Posts: 102 Original Poster	I'm sorry but only what I saw on the other forum is "full-size"...

10-08-2012, 12:23 PM - 1 Like	#7
lammie200 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: San Francisco Photos: Albums Posts: 1,033	Originally posted by leonsroar Hope to have financial struggles. ??? I will hope that you do if that is what you want. For me, I just hope to have financials.

10-08-2012, 12:43 PM	#8
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	Thanks for the info ... maybe 2013 will turn out to be a better year than expected ... J

10-08-2012, 01:52 PM	#9
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Indeed, it's been mentioned before in at least the interview at Photokina that they're already working on "full-frame technologies" so this bit of news doesn't come in as much of a surprise. It does, though, keep things make things more hopeful, but it doesn't guarantee that anything will come out of it in the near future.

10-08-2012, 01:59 PM	#10
photonpen New Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5	If they go full-full-frame next year -any guesses as to if they would tend to go with a 24mp /Sony -type sensor or not? Ron B.

10-08-2012, 02:02 PM - 1 Like	#11
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	I hate how Pentax have let things get this far - leaving its users scrambling over rumored, translated, and completely ambiguous scraps of 'hope'

10-08-2012, 02:06 PM	#12
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by leonsroar Additional note, those pentaxians were surprised at II's AF in dark. Some with D800 is saying it is better than D800 while the other also with D800 is saying D800 is still better than that. The quoted bit is impressive, in my opinion.

10-08-2012, 02:27 PM - 1 Like	#13
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by illdefined I hate how Pentax have let things get this far - leaving its users scrambling over rumored, translated, and completely ambiguous scraps of 'hope' I can totally see Pentax releasing a FF camera in 2013...and I can also totally see Pentax not releasing one and people getting excited about quotes and telling us to wait until 2014.

10-08-2012, 02:29 PM	#14
Franky2step Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Niagara Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 793	I think Pentax/Ricoh are working on FX zooms as they currently don't have a suitable offering. FA primes are there, but pretty sure they don't intend to offer a FX camera which needs a third party lens to take advantage of it. JMHO

10-08-2012, 02:32 PM	#15
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by Vylen Indeed, it's been mentioned before in at least the interview at Photokina that they're already working on "full-frame technologies" so this bit of news doesn't come in as much of a surprise. It does, though, keep things make things more hopeful, but it doesn't guarantee that anything will come out of it in the near future. It makes you wonder why Pentax, not known as a second-party supplier to others in industry AFAIK (excusing the Honeywell re-branding in the USA during the 1960s), would be working on "full-frame technologies" if it wasn't working on a corresponding body. Indeed, aside from the sensor, what is exclusively "full-frame" about anything in a camera, DSLR or otherwise? All the rest, from body package to memory, seems to be merely a matter of scale or processing speed. I suppose you could say the same about the sensor, too, to some extent at least, but if you're not making your own then you're adapting someone else's for your own purposes.