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07-11-2013, 06:32 AM   #361

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Right, an APS-C DSLR is just as good as a full frame DSLR. Now repeat that 1,000 times and save yourself some money.

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Hmm, this thread is named "Would you buy a Pentax Full Frame DSLR?" and not "Full Frame Sensor vs Crop Sensor – What is the difference?". Isn't it better to start a new thread if you want to debate this?

As for me, I'll stay with my K-5 as far as it works and then I'll buy a Pentax FF if there is one at the right price and weight otherwise I'll buy another Pentax APS-C.

This is something I read a few months ago and I think it's worth reading

  • Use your camera until it dies – reconsider how much bang-for-the buck you might get out of a new upgrade. For some product introductions, you can count on significant new features and functionality – at least by the specs of the new product compared to the previous generation. But how much will you get out of these new features? If you read enough photography forums, you might get the impression that most photographers constantly need an aperture of f/2.8, a minimum of 24 MPs, the need for clean 6400 ISO images, 7-9 frames per second capability, and generous image buffer that will enable them to take nearly unlimited RAW files without a delay. Really? No doubt that some photographers will indeed make use of such capabilities more than others, but being realistic about our shooting needs is the first step in making wise decisions regarding new product introductions. If we are honest regarding our needs, we will be less enticed to jump on the bandwagon and buy more gear than we need.
  • Don’t pay attention to new product announcements – give the rumor mill a rest and enjoy the equipment you have! It may be interesting to scour the photography forums for the latest gossip, but most of us would likely be better served by learning more about photography, our gear and how to use it effectively, and improving our post-processing software skills. It is entertaining to poke fun at gear junkies at times, since we always think it is the “other guy”, but the truth be told, more of us should look in the mirror! If more of us got off the Internet, spend more time shooting, and getting to know our gear better, we would likely find that we might not feel the need to purchase every new gizmo that comes along.
  • Shoot and enjoy photography instead of being a gear junky – aren’t you getting tired of all this?
  • Be willing to change brands – we are all familiar with the proverbial “fan boys” who drone on endlessly about their devotion to a given brand and will defend a company and their products to the point of silliness, despite any evidence to the contrary (even as I write this, there are those in the Nikon camp that continue to deny that the D800 ever suffered from focusing issues). If you talk to some wise pros, however, you may be surprised to find that they are not quite as “religious” as some of the serious amateurs regarding brand loyalty. They buy what they absolutely need and don’t obsess about every minor product distinction of every new piece of gear that is announced. And they are sometimes much more willing to change brands than some of the serious amateur crowd.
    How can you minimize the “pain” of switching? Pair down that collection of gear that you no longer use. Buy and keep only those lenses that you get value from. Many serious amateurs cringe at the idea of switching brands – for a good reason. But if you look behind some of their concerns, part of this fear is that they have to deal with the growing collection of lenses they rarely use. Every now and then, ask yourself “How much value am I getting from this lens, flash, or other piece of equipment?”. If you find that a given piece of gear spends more time on the shelf than on your camera? Sell it. Having a stable of good gear that actually gets used thus serves two purposes: 1) It preserves your hard earned money, and 2) If and when you decide to switch brands because situations change and you are no longer with the products and service of your existing brands, you will have a much easier time."
You are right. My wife shoots weddings and she wants (needs) better high iso and better focusing. That said, with most of the cameras out there, be they four thirds, APS-C, or Full frame, the differences are now mainly seen at the extremes of usage and with most every day photography situations, there will be fairly minimal differences.

I think the majority of people who buy full frame cameras are hobbyists who have money burning a hole in their pockets (that would be me, I guess). But honestly, a change in format will not automatically make your photos better.
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Right, an APS-C DSLR is just as good as a full frame DSLR. Now repeat that 1,000 times and save yourself some money.
Pay yourself $1 for each time you say that, and then you can afford that ff
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Didn't the Chicago Times fire all their photographers so they can use mobile photographers instead? I know that's a bit extreme but that's basically your logic.
Maybe that's why I don't find their measures that absurd. After all, newspaper printing doesn't require very high resolutions at all.

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And for the record, I own a medium format and a 35mm full frame camera. Honestly, you'd have to stick your nose in pretty close to notice very minute differences in IQ ... if there is any.
LOL! You're funny. What did you buy your FF and MF camera for then if you don't see any increase in IQ? Extra DOF control? Go see a good optician and have your eyes checked. Until then you're on my ignore list.

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Okay, this has turned into a snipe-fest.

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