Anyone heard of the latest FF rumor on Pentax Discuss Mail List?

LFLee · 06-23-2013, 11:44 AM

so.... been like two days and I haven't see the news posted here, anyone heard of the latest FF rumor on Pentax Discuss Mail List?

I will re-post it here:

----- Beginning of quote ------------
"Usually well-informed French magazine R?ponses Photo has a short piece
on the K-50 and the K-500. But the really interesting bit of information
comes at the very end of the article:

"We would have hoped for some more audacity. But let's wait a little, as
it might well be that the end of the year will have a nice surprise in
store for us, in the semi-pro range, somewhere between the K-5II and the
645D..."

Ralf"

----- end of quote ------

**jatrax** · 06-23-2013, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by LFLee

it might well be that the end of the year will have a nice surprise

Not exactly the most definite news report I have ever seen. There may be a few Pentaxians somewhere who have not thought we might, possibly, depending on various things see a camera somewhat above the k-5II sometime by the end of 2013 or possibly 2014.

Still, a good rumor is a good rumor and I'm sure this one will be worth several thousand posts.

Adam · 06-23-2013, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

Not exactly the most definite news report I have ever seen. There may be a few Pentaxians somewhere who have not thought we might, possibly, depending on various things see a camera somewhat above the k-5II sometime by the end of 2013 or possibly 2014.

Still, a good rumor is a good rumor and I'm sure this one will be worth several thousand posts.

Sounds like they're talking about a new APS-C flagship.

**jatrax** · 06-23-2013, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by LFLee

in the semi-pro range, somewhere between the K-5II and the 645D..."

"semi-pro" would indicate APS-C probably. But "between k-5II and the 645D" could also indicate FF. But I'm not sure if that quote is idle speculation, wishful thinking or a hint intended to start rumors.

At this point I find that I no longer really care. I have all the APS-C lenses I want or need and an assortment of FF lenses. I have looked and really do not find any Pentax FF lenses in the database that I would even want to purchase. If Pentax does come out with a FF and if I feel it is good enough to warrant moving to it then I'll need 24-70 zoom to go with my current FF primes. But there isn't one out there I want at this time so I'll just wait.

I would like the 31 and 77mm limiteds, but without quickshift I think I will wait and see if Pentax updates them. A 31mm limited with WR and quickshift would definitely trigger a renewal of LBA.

LFLee · 06-23-2013, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

"semi-pro" would indicate APS-C probably. But "between k-5II and the 645D" could also indicate FF. But I'm not sure if that quote is idle speculation, wishful thinking or a hint intended to start rumors.

At this point I find that I no longer really care. I have all the APS-C lenses I want or need and an assortment of FF lenses. I have looked and really do not find any Pentax FF lenses in the database that I would even want to purchase. If Pentax does come out with a FF and if I feel it is good enough to warrant moving to it then I'll need 24-70 zoom to go with my current FF primes. But there isn't one out there I want at this time so I'll just wait.

For those who want FF camera from PENTAX, like me, is important ...:-) since I will have to decide if I should continue to "invest" in APS-C lenses (e.g. deciding if I should get the Sigma 18-35mm, Sigma 35mm f1.4, no interesting lenses from PENTX, sadly), or save the money for FF cameras and lenses (moving away from PENTAX or wait).

Not a single lens purchase since last year's Oct (I think), and every time I saw a lens in the marketplace that I want, I would think "I will wait and see what else PENTAX bring"...

Kunzite · 06-23-2013, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Sounds like they're talking about a new APS-C flagship.

Indeed, that's no FF rumor - just another misunderstanding.

There are reliable rumors about what should happen in the next months, I wouldn't believe anything else.

normhead · 06-23-2013, 02:28 PM

It's only a matter of time before Pentax brings out a 24 MP APS-c that rivals the D600 in IQ. IF someone said the above to me, that would be the first thing I'd think.

**TomB_tx** · 06-23-2013, 03:40 PM

Regardless of what Pentax plans I'm not buying any APS-C lenses. I got the kit lens with my K-5, and added the 35 2.4 just to see how it compared to my SMC-M 35 2.0. I found no advantage to the new lens, and since I have all the old manual Pentax lenses I need, and shoot film Pentax more than digital, so buying APS-C makes no sense to me. I have bought a number of new lenses - but all for the 24x36 format to use with my Leica M9 and film Leicas. (identical use on both is a BIG plus for me)
If Pentax does come out with a FF digital it will replace my K-5 - but I don't plan new lenses in any case.

Nesster · 06-25-2013, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by normhead

It's only a matter of time before Pentax brings out a 24 MP APS-c that rivals the D600 in IQ. IF someone said the above to me, that would be the first thing I'd think.

And differs in some respects from the D7100.

Uluru · 06-30-2013, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Indeed, that's no FF rumor - just another misunderstanding.

That is no misunderstanding, that is a rumour.
There is no misunderstanding about something unexisting, unconfirmed, unspecified, vague.

Kunzite · 06-30-2013, 02:03 PM - **1 Like**

Your post is a misunderstanding, as well. The "source" wasn't talking about a FF camera.
If the weather girl says it might be raining tomorrow, and someone takes that as "Pentax will announce a FF camera shortly", IMO it doesn't count as a FF rumour

Uluru · 06-30-2013, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Your post is a misunderstanding, as well. The "source" wasn't talking about a FF camera.

I wasn't talking about FF either.

Just about "unconfirmed, speculated something“.

However, I know it's hard to release ourselves from anything FF related on Pentax forums.
We should be called Pentax FForums.

**monochrome** · 06-30-2013, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by Uluru

We should be called Pentax FForums.

We have an entire sub-forum for that!

Relax - all will be clear in good time. If you really look at all the releases this year and at the features on the releases, Ricoh and Pentax engineers together are building on the base engineering they've inherited.

Uluru · 06-30-2013, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

We have an entire sub-forum for that!

Relax - all will be clear in good time. If you really look at all the releases this year and at the features on the releases, Ricoh and Pentax engineers together are building on the base engineering they've inherited.

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I'm aware of that. If I were to acquire a company like Pentax, I'd establish a steady, 10 year development plan myself.
I hope the end of 2013 will mark the end of the largest gap filled with silence.

**RobA_Oz** · 06-30-2013, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by Uluru

I hope the end of 2013 will mark the end of the largest gap filled with silence.

In space, no one can hear you scream...

Apparently, Pentax can't hear the screaming going on here, so the above suggests they're in space. Hence, Pentax has been taken over by Aliens. Perhaps they're the Borg, and are attempting to assimilate us. That answers a few questions, and should satisfy any conspiracy theorists here (an oxymoron, I know: nothing will ever satisfy a conspiracy theorist).

06-23-2013, 11:44 AM	#1
LFLee Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,292	Anyone heard of the latest FF rumor on Pentax Discuss Mail List? so.... been like two days and I haven't see the news posted here, anyone heard of the latest FF rumor on Pentax Discuss Mail List? I will re-post it here: ----- Beginning of quote ------------ "Usually well-informed French magazine R?ponses Photo has a short piece on the K-50 and the K-500. But the really interesting bit of information comes at the very end of the article: "We would have hoped for some more audacity. But let's wait a little, as it might well be that the end of the year will have a nice surprise in store for us, in the semi-pro range, somewhere between the K-5II and the 645D..." Ralf" ----- end of quote ------

06-23-2013, 12:26 PM	#3
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,608	Originally posted by jatrax Not exactly the most definite news report I have ever seen. There may be a few Pentaxians somewhere who have not thought we might, possibly, depending on various things see a camera somewhat above the k-5II sometime by the end of 2013 or possibly 2014. Still, a good rumor is a good rumor and I'm sure this one will be worth several thousand posts. Sounds like they're talking about a new APS-C flagship. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

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06-23-2013, 12:12 PM	#2
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by LFLee it might well be that the end of the year will have a nice surprise Not exactly the most definite news report I have ever seen. There may be a few Pentaxians somewhere who have not thought we might, possibly, depending on various things see a camera somewhat above the k-5II sometime by the end of 2013 or possibly 2014. Still, a good rumor is a good rumor and I'm sure this one will be worth several thousand posts.

06-23-2013, 12:39 PM	#4
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by LFLee in the semi-pro range, somewhere between the K-5II and the 645D..." "semi-pro" would indicate APS-C probably. But "between k-5II and the 645D" could also indicate FF. But I'm not sure if that quote is idle speculation, wishful thinking or a hint intended to start rumors. At this point I find that I no longer really care. I have all the APS-C lenses I want or need and an assortment of FF lenses. I have looked and really do not find any Pentax FF lenses in the database that I would even want to purchase. If Pentax does come out with a FF and if I feel it is good enough to warrant moving to it then I'll need 24-70 zoom to go with my current FF primes. But there isn't one out there I want at this time so I'll just wait. I would like the 31 and 77mm limiteds, but without quickshift I think I will wait and see if Pentax updates them. A 31mm limited with WR and quickshift would definitely trigger a renewal of LBA.

06-23-2013, 01:20 PM	#5
LFLee Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,292 Original Poster	Originally posted by jatrax "semi-pro" would indicate APS-C probably. But "between k-5II and the 645D" could also indicate FF. But I'm not sure if that quote is idle speculation, wishful thinking or a hint intended to start rumors. At this point I find that I no longer really care. I have all the APS-C lenses I want or need and an assortment of FF lenses. I have looked and really do not find any Pentax FF lenses in the database that I would even want to purchase. If Pentax does come out with a FF and if I feel it is good enough to warrant moving to it then I'll need 24-70 zoom to go with my current FF primes. But there isn't one out there I want at this time so I'll just wait. For those who want FF camera from PENTAX, like me, is important ...:-) since I will have to decide if I should continue to "invest" in APS-C lenses (e.g. deciding if I should get the Sigma 18-35mm, Sigma 35mm f1.4, no interesting lenses from PENTX, sadly), or save the money for FF cameras and lenses (moving away from PENTAX or wait). Not a single lens purchase since last year's Oct (I think), and every time I saw a lens in the marketplace that I want, I would think "I will wait and see what else PENTAX bring"...

06-23-2013, 02:26 PM	#6
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Adam Sounds like they're talking about a new APS-C flagship. Indeed, that's no FF rumor - just another misunderstanding. There are reliable rumors about what should happen in the next months, I wouldn't believe anything else.

06-23-2013, 02:28 PM	#7
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	It's only a matter of time before Pentax brings out a 24 MP APS-c that rivals the D600 in IQ. IF someone said the above to me, that would be the first thing I'd think.

06-23-2013, 03:40 PM	#8
TomB_tx Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,446	Regardless of what Pentax plans I'm not buying any APS-C lenses. I got the kit lens with my K-5, and added the 35 2.4 just to see how it compared to my SMC-M 35 2.0. I found no advantage to the new lens, and since I have all the old manual Pentax lenses I need, and shoot film Pentax more than digital, so buying APS-C makes no sense to me. I have bought a number of new lenses - but all for the 24x36 format to use with my Leica M9 and film Leicas. (identical use on both is a BIG plus for me) If Pentax does come out with a FF digital it will replace my K-5 - but I don't plan new lenses in any case.

06-25-2013, 01:09 PM	#9
Nesster Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 13,072	Originally posted by normhead It's only a matter of time before Pentax brings out a 24 MP APS-c that rivals the D600 in IQ. IF someone said the above to me, that would be the first thing I'd think. And differs in some respects from the D7100.

06-30-2013, 01:56 PM	#10
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by Kunzite Indeed, that's no FF rumor - just another misunderstanding. That is no misunderstanding, that is a rumour. There is no misunderstanding about something unexisting, unconfirmed, unspecified, vague.

06-30-2013, 02:03 PM - 1 Like	#11
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Your post is a misunderstanding, as well. The "source" wasn't talking about a FF camera. If the weather girl says it might be raining tomorrow, and someone takes that as "Pentax will announce a FF camera shortly", IMO it doesn't count as a FF rumour

06-30-2013, 03:34 PM	#12
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by Kunzite Your post is a misunderstanding, as well. The "source" wasn't talking about a FF camera. I wasn't talking about FF either. Just about "unconfirmed, speculated something“. However, I know it's hard to release ourselves from anything FF related on Pentax forums. We should be called Pentax FForums.

06-30-2013, 04:19 PM	#13
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Uluru We should be called Pentax FForums. We have an entire sub-forum for that! Relax - all will be clear in good time. If you really look at all the releases this year and at the features on the releases, Ricoh and Pentax engineers together are building on the base engineering they've inherited.

06-30-2013, 04:37 PM	#14
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by monochrome We have an entire sub-forum for that! Relax - all will be clear in good time. If you really look at all the releases this year and at the features on the releases, Ricoh and Pentax engineers together are building on the base engineering they've inherited. \| \| I'm aware of that. If I were to acquire a company like Pentax, I'd establish a steady, 10 year development plan myself. I hope the end of 2013 will mark the end of the largest gap filled with silence.

06-30-2013, 07:45 PM	#15
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Originally posted by Uluru I hope the end of 2013 will mark the end of the largest gap filled with silence. In space, no one can hear you scream... Apparently, Pentax can't hear the screaming going on here, so the above suggests they're in space. Hence, Pentax has been taken over by Aliens. Perhaps they're the Borg, and are attempting to assimilate us. That answers a few questions, and should satisfy any conspiracy theorists here (an oxymoron, I know: nothing will ever satisfy a conspiracy theorist).