We are really tire to wait for Pentax FF.

rlatjsrud · 09-14-2013, 10:19 AM

This rumor was taken for over 10 years!!!!

Why don't they show the FF camera?

I love the Pentax color and lenses.

I really need to get it for my work!!

Any rumors for FF??

Franc · 09-14-2013, 10:49 AM

be patient!
it will come

Winder · 09-14-2013, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by Franc

be patient!
it will come

I think this same comment was in a thread from 2001......

Kunzite · 09-14-2013, 11:12 AM

Except that, since they cancelled the 2001 project (for good reasons), only recently there's some official indication they're working on a FF.
Wait, if you can; if the FF is nonessential for you right now. If you can't wait, well...

Louicio · 09-14-2013, 12:24 PM

trollolol

Winder · 09-14-2013, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Except that, since they cancelled the 2001 project (for good reasons), only recently there's some official indication they're working on a FF.
Wait, if you can; if the FF is nonessential for you right now. If you can't wait, well...

Played with a Sony A99 last week. I need to retire the Contax 645 and move away from film, or reinvest and replace my MF film scanner which is a $2,000 purchase.

I just wish Pentax would announce that they will produce a FF or announce that they will not produce a FF. I wont buy anymore Pentax gear until I know what direction they are going. IF that means buying into another brand.... not a problem. I have been in a holding pattern with my digital gear since deciding to leave Canon and selling the 5D. I though the Sony A900 what where I was going, but Sony decided to move away from the OVF and I wanted to wait and see what that would lead to.

I want a FF to replace my 645 and my Canon 5D. I have no brand loyalty.

**Lowell Goudge** · 09-15-2013, 12:32 AM - **2 Likes**

I do not know what started the latest round of rumours, but for many years, up until the purchase by Ricoh, there was an official statement by Pentax. "Pentax remains wholly committed to the APS-C format" and people still bitched and screamed and stomped their feet that Pentax should end the rumours and make an official statement, simply because they did not like the answer they got.

For years, people argued that the reason for full frame was to reduce noise. That has essentially died with sensor improvements, to now an insistence on being able to have better artistic control and a narrowe depth of field with fast lenses. To me that argument is even less justified, it can be completely controlled by careful control of the setup at the onset. What it means is that to get the same impact with APS-C sensors you simply do not shoot the same way as you would with full frame, not that the shots can't be done.

And, with full frame, are you willing to accept either sensors adjusted for a specific lens, by offsetting the sensor lenses to avoid sensor vignetting at the edge of the frame, or by some form of "sensitivity boost" to compensate.

Full frame is not the be all and end all. It is promoted by camera companies that did not compete in medium format in the film era.

**crewl1** · 09-15-2013, 01:21 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by rlatjsrud

I really need to get it for my work!!

Really?

If I needed something for my livelihood I'd find the supplier that has it NOW!

I wouldn't jeopardize putting food on the table by sitting around wishing for a vendor to make what I need.

If you really need one for work then go and get one.

Seems to me your are losing money while you wait around for Pentax to make one.

Kunzite · 09-15-2013, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by Winder

I just wish Pentax would announce that they will produce a FF or announce that they will not produce a FF. I wont buy anymore Pentax gear until I know what direction they are going.

Originally posted by Toshiyuki Kitazawa:

First, we are discussing development of FF SLR. We are touching base with a sensor manufacturer and proceeding the process of development towards production.
[...]
We are developing towards commercial production and will definitely launch though, it is the matter of whether it makes sense or not for Pentax to produce similar FF SLR to others and slightly smaller & lighter FF Lenses than others. As to time frame, it is under advanced development towards 2013 or later. You can expect that.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/201538-dc-watch-interv...velopment.html

hoanpham · 09-15-2013, 06:04 AM

Originally posted by Franc

be patient!
it will come

sure. it will come when the FF sensor race is over.
in the meanwhile, get a second body and a second set of lenses, like 5d, 5dm2, ... or what?

kodak was late, nokia was late, we see what happened with them.
hopefully we can see a pentax ff soon, and before or same time as nex ff...
too sad as pentaxian.

Louicio · 09-15-2013, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by hoanpham

sure. it will come when the FF sensor race is over.
in the meanwhile, get a second body and a second set of lenses, like 5d, 5dm2, ... or what?

kodak was late, nokia was late, we see what happened with them.
hopefully we can see a pentax ff soon, and before or same time as nex ff...
too sad as pentaxian.

Pentax are late to the race for a bigger sensor? The race to medium format? Lol
The only thing Pentax need is better marketing and a stronger market presence. The rest will follow.

hoanpham · 09-15-2013, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by Louicio

Pentax are late to the race for a bigger sensor? The race to medium format? Lol

The majority of lenses is not medium format.
I have too many K-mount, and more in m42.
K-mount won't fit in my 5d nor 5dm2, but m42.
5d is now so cheap that i am not complaining...

Winder · 09-15-2013, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/201538-dc-watch-interv...velopment.html

Is there something definitive in that interview that you wanted to point out?

Clavius · 09-15-2013, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by hoanpham

The majority of lenses is not medium format.
I have too many K-mount, and more in m42.
K-mount won't fit in my 5d nor 5dm2, but m42.
5d is now so cheap that i am not complaining...

You K-mount and m42 lenses both will work on your 5D or 5DmkII without problem.

Kunzite · 09-15-2013, 09:52 AM

Winder: He said "will definitely launch", didn't he?

Originally posted by hoanpham

sure. it will come when the FF sensor race is over.
in the meanwhile, get a second body and a second set of lenses, like 5d, 5dm2, ... or what?

kodak was late, nokia was late, we see what happened with them.
hopefully we can see a pentax ff soon, and before or same time as nex ff...
too sad as pentaxian.

Contax was the first company to announce a FF. One year later, Kodak was the second (with Canon the 3rd, following Kodak's announcement the next day). And Kodak's first digital SLR appeared 5 years before anyone else's (i.e. Nikon's). How is that being late?

09-14-2013, 10:19 AM	#1
rlatjsrud Guest	We are really tire to wait for Pentax FF. This rumor was taken for over 10 years!!!! Why don't they show the FF camera? I love the Pentax color and lenses. I really need to get it for my work!! Any rumors for FF??

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09-14-2013, 10:49 AM	#2
Franc Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hoevelaken Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,212	be patient! it will come

09-14-2013, 10:59 AM	#3
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by Franc be patient! it will come I think this same comment was in a thread from 2001......

09-14-2013, 11:12 AM	#4
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Except that, since they cancelled the 2001 project (for good reasons), only recently there's some official indication they're working on a FF. Wait, if you can; if the FF is nonessential for you right now. If you can't wait, well...

09-14-2013, 12:24 PM	#5
Louicio Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Melbourne Posts: 432	trollolol

09-14-2013, 09:27 PM	#6
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by Kunzite Except that, since they cancelled the 2001 project (for good reasons), only recently there's some official indication they're working on a FF. Wait, if you can; if the FF is nonessential for you right now. If you can't wait, well... Played with a Sony A99 last week. I need to retire the Contax 645 and move away from film, or reinvest and replace my MF film scanner which is a $2,000 purchase. I just wish Pentax would announce that they will produce a FF or announce that they will not produce a FF. I wont buy anymore Pentax gear until I know what direction they are going. IF that means buying into another brand.... not a problem. I have been in a holding pattern with my digital gear since deciding to leave Canon and selling the 5D. I though the Sony A900 what where I was going, but Sony decided to move away from the OVF and I wanted to wait and see what that would lead to. I want a FF to replace my 645 and my Canon 5D. I have no brand loyalty.

09-15-2013, 12:32 AM - 2 Likes	#7
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,887	I do not know what started the latest round of rumours, but for many years, up until the purchase by Ricoh, there was an official statement by Pentax. "Pentax remains wholly committed to the APS-C format" and people still bitched and screamed and stomped their feet that Pentax should end the rumours and make an official statement, simply because they did not like the answer they got. For years, people argued that the reason for full frame was to reduce noise. That has essentially died with sensor improvements, to now an insistence on being able to have better artistic control and a narrowe depth of field with fast lenses. To me that argument is even less justified, it can be completely controlled by careful control of the setup at the onset. What it means is that to get the same impact with APS-C sensors you simply do not shoot the same way as you would with full frame, not that the shots can't be done. And, with full frame, are you willing to accept either sensors adjusted for a specific lens, by offsetting the sensor lenses to avoid sensor vignetting at the edge of the frame, or by some form of "sensitivity boost" to compensate. Full frame is not the be all and end all. It is promoted by camera companies that did not compete in medium format in the film era.

09-15-2013, 01:21 AM - 2 Likes	#8
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Originally posted by rlatjsrud I really need to get it for my work!! Really? If I needed something for my livelihood I'd find the supplier that has it NOW! I wouldn't jeopardize putting food on the table by sitting around wishing for a vendor to make what I need. If you really need one for work then go and get one. Seems to me your are losing money while you wait around for Pentax to make one.

09-15-2013, 05:40 AM	#9
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Winder I just wish Pentax would announce that they will produce a FF or announce that they will not produce a FF. I wont buy anymore Pentax gear until I know what direction they are going. Originally posted by Toshiyuki Kitazawa: First, we are discussing development of FF SLR. We are touching base with a sensor manufacturer and proceeding the process of development towards production. [...] We are developing towards commercial production and will definitely launch though, it is the matter of whether it makes sense or not for Pentax to produce similar FF SLR to others and slightly smaller & lighter FF Lenses than others. As to time frame, it is under advanced development towards 2013 or later. You can expect that. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/201538-dc-watch-interv...velopment.html

09-15-2013, 06:04 AM	#10
hoanpham Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Strand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,366	Originally posted by Franc be patient! it will come sure. it will come when the FF sensor race is over. in the meanwhile, get a second body and a second set of lenses, like 5d, 5dm2, ... or what? kodak was late, nokia was late, we see what happened with them. hopefully we can see a pentax ff soon, and before or same time as nex ff... too sad as pentaxian.

09-15-2013, 07:31 AM	#11
Louicio Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Melbourne Posts: 432	Originally posted by hoanpham sure. it will come when the FF sensor race is over. in the meanwhile, get a second body and a second set of lenses, like 5d, 5dm2, ... or what? kodak was late, nokia was late, we see what happened with them. hopefully we can see a pentax ff soon, and before or same time as nex ff... too sad as pentaxian. Pentax are late to the race for a bigger sensor? The race to medium format? Lol The only thing Pentax need is better marketing and a stronger market presence. The rest will follow.

09-15-2013, 08:47 AM	#12
hoanpham Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Strand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,366	Originally posted by Louicio Pentax are late to the race for a bigger sensor? The race to medium format? Lol The majority of lenses is not medium format. I have too many K-mount, and more in m42. K-mount won't fit in my 5d nor 5dm2, but m42. 5d is now so cheap that i am not complaining...

09-15-2013, 09:16 AM	#13
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by Kunzite https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/201538-dc-watch-interv...velopment.html Is there something definitive in that interview that you wanted to point out?

09-15-2013, 09:50 AM	#14
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by hoanpham The majority of lenses is not medium format. I have too many K-mount, and more in m42. K-mount won't fit in my 5d nor 5dm2, but m42. 5d is now so cheap that i am not complaining... You K-mount and m42 lenses both will work on your 5D or 5DmkII without problem.

09-15-2013, 09:52 AM	#15
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Winder: He said "will definitely launch", didn't he? Originally posted by hoanpham sure. it will come when the FF sensor race is over. in the meanwhile, get a second body and a second set of lenses, like 5d, 5dm2, ... or what? kodak was late, nokia was late, we see what happened with them. hopefully we can see a pentax ff soon, and before or same time as nex ff... too sad as pentaxian. Contax was the first company to announce a FF. One year later, Kodak was the second (with Canon the 3rd, following Kodak's announcement the next day). And Kodak's first digital SLR appeared 5 years before anyone else's (i.e. Nikon's). How is that being late?