Where's the LX-D Ricoh?

ElJamoquio · 11-05-2013, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by buttons

I think the DF looks great

It looks fantastic.

I'd still rather have an 'ergo' body but if the DF was a Pentax the only question would be how many I'd order.

**TomB_tx** · 11-05-2013, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by bossa

I just read a post on DPR where the poster stated the Aperture value is not reported in the VF for the older Nikkor lenses.. ridiculous, but they probably want to encourage G lens purchases after the initial glow of the purchase has wore off I suppose.

I used cameras for a lot of years before any of them showed the aperture in the vf, and still use some of them. This is a complete non-issue to me, as I habitually glance at the top of a camera (aperture ring and shutter speed dial) before raising the camera. Then you just change by feel (clicks) as needed.

Kunzite · 11-05-2013, 03:42 PM

Except you can't use an aperture ring with the Df.

**TomB_tx** · 11-05-2013, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Except you can't use an aperture ring with the Df.

Sure you can -as long as you use lenses that have them. It works with all the old AI 1970s and newer lenses and couples the aperture mechanically. Older, non-AI Nikon lenses will also work and meter stopped-down. It is more compatible with old Nikon lenses than any digital Pentax is with old Pentax lenses (so far). Both the old Pentax and Nikon lenses are good enough for me.

Alizarine · 11-05-2013, 06:27 PM - **1 Like**

Looking at the DF now, I wonder how more FM2 it could be without the back LCD.

If Pentax is taking "Pure Photography" to the next level... I wonder what would happen if they did the retro LX design and remove the LCD, and some buttons associated with it. Would it make the camera thinner and complete the look? Functionality is a bit axed though. But then again, thinking about it, many photographers before me learned how to take pictures without chimping after every shot, even for their "first 10,000 ones".

ElJamoquio · 11-05-2013, 07:24 PM

No LCD is a no-go in the marketplace. Niche of a niche for Pentax.

Kunzite · 11-06-2013, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by TomB_tx

Sure you can -as long as you use lenses that have them. It works with all the old AI 1970s and newer lenses and couples the aperture mechanically. Older, non-AI Nikon lenses will also work and meter stopped-down. It is more compatible with old Nikon lenses than any digital Pentax is with old Pentax lenses (so far). Both the old Pentax and Nikon lenses are good enough for me.

Well, according with DPReview you can't do it with CPU lenses, but only with non-CPU ones.
And using pre-AI lenses is more cumbersome than using K/M lenses with Pentax DSLRs.

Clavius · 11-06-2013, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by Alizarine

Looking at the DF now, I wonder how more FM2 it could be without the back LCD.

If Pentax is taking "Pure Photography" to the next level... I wonder what would happen if they did the retro LX design and remove the LCD, and some buttons associated with it. Would it make the camera thinner and complete the look? Functionality is a bit axed though. But then again, thinking about it, many photographers before me learned how to take pictures without chimping after every shot, even for their "first 10,000 ones".

Or, chimping through the VF. Think of a Sony A7r but then with no back LCD screen. Never needing to take your eye from the viewfinder. Wifi would make it possible to review the files on much bigger and higher resolution screens of a tablet, or smartphone anyway. It would shave some extra space off the camera, or would make some extra room for more usefull stuff.

Caat · 11-06-2013, 04:08 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

Or, chimping through the VF. Think of a Sony A7r but then with no back LCD screen. Never needing to take your eye from the viewfinder. Wifi would make it possible to review the files on much bigger and higher resolution screens of a tablet, or smartphone anyway. It would shave some extra space off the camera, or would make some extra room for more usefull stuff.

It would still be a very difficult sell

Parry · 11-06-2013, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by ElJamoquio

It looks fantastic.

I'd still rather have an 'ergo' body but if the DF was a Pentax the only question would be how many I'd order.

A friend who was a Vietnam war photographer and now semi-retired pro just emailed me from Hong Kong. He mentioned he'd just handled a Nikon DF and was utterly scathing of the thing. Said it was a "kick in the bum to the classic Nikon FM" and was woefully overpriced for what it really is.

He was not impressed.

TomE · 11-07-2013, 07:27 AM

normhead · 11-07-2013, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by Parry

A friend who was a Vietnam war photographer and now semi-retired pro just emailed me from Hong Kong. He mentioned he'd just handled a Nikon DF and was utterly scathing of the thing. Said it was a "kick in the bum to the classic Nikon FM" and was woefully overpriced for what it really is.

He was not impressed.

I find that to be totally believable.

disco_owner · 11-07-2013, 07:42 AM

Are you taking orders ? No seriusly that looks spot on cept the film winder

raphtze · 11-07-2013, 09:02 AM

kinda glad nikon is leading the charge marrying retro style with modern innards. i'm sure the new Df won't please everyone. and i'm sure if we ever get a FF pentax, there will be those who aren't satisfied. one thing for sure, the Df is giving nikon a lot of exposure. i'm sure an LX styled DSLR would sell like hotcakes. methinks however, when and if the pentax FF is released...it'll be a real modern classic, not unlike the K-7/5/3 cameras.

TomE · 11-07-2013, 10:42 AM

Forgot about the winder in my excitement over a LX-D!

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Macro Where's the entrance?	eaglem	Post Your Photos!	11	02-02-2013 01:37 AM
Macro Where's the Iron....	eaglem	Post Your Photos!	4	11-28-2012 04:28 AM
Machinery Where's the track	Bob63	Post Your Photos!	7	12-20-2011 12:12 PM
Where's the Ricoh pin?	heatherslightbox	Pentax SLR Lens Discussion	7	03-12-2008 05:23 PM

11-05-2013, 02:08 PM	#91
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by buttons I think the DF looks great It looks fantastic. I'd still rather have an 'ergo' body but if the DF was a Pentax the only question would be how many I'd order.

11-05-2013, 02:54 PM	#92
TomB_tx Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,446	Originally posted by bossa I just read a post on DPR where the poster stated the Aperture value is not reported in the VF for the older Nikkor lenses.. ridiculous, but they probably want to encourage G lens purchases after the initial glow of the purchase has wore off I suppose. I used cameras for a lot of years before any of them showed the aperture in the vf, and still use some of them. This is a complete non-issue to me, as I habitually glance at the top of a camera (aperture ring and shutter speed dial) before raising the camera. Then you just change by feel (clicks) as needed.

11-05-2013, 03:42 PM	#93
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Except you can't use an aperture ring with the Df.

11-05-2013, 04:10 PM	#94
TomB_tx Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,446	Originally posted by Kunzite Except you can't use an aperture ring with the Df. Sure you can -as long as you use lenses that have them. It works with all the old AI 1970s and newer lenses and couples the aperture mechanically. Older, non-AI Nikon lenses will also work and meter stopped-down. It is more compatible with old Nikon lenses than any digital Pentax is with old Pentax lenses (so far). Both the old Pentax and Nikon lenses are good enough for me.

11-05-2013, 06:27 PM - 1 Like	#95
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	Looking at the DF now, I wonder how more FM2 it could be without the back LCD. If Pentax is taking "Pure Photography" to the next level... I wonder what would happen if they did the retro LX design and remove the LCD, and some buttons associated with it. Would it make the camera thinner and complete the look? Functionality is a bit axed though. But then again, thinking about it, many photographers before me learned how to take pictures without chimping after every shot, even for their "first 10,000 ones".

11-05-2013, 07:24 PM	#96
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	No LCD is a no-go in the marketplace. Niche of a niche for Pentax.

11-06-2013, 01:16 AM	#97
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by TomB_tx Sure you can -as long as you use lenses that have them. It works with all the old AI 1970s and newer lenses and couples the aperture mechanically. Older, non-AI Nikon lenses will also work and meter stopped-down. It is more compatible with old Nikon lenses than any digital Pentax is with old Pentax lenses (so far). Both the old Pentax and Nikon lenses are good enough for me. Well, according with DPReview you can't do it with CPU lenses, but only with non-CPU ones. And using pre-AI lenses is more cumbersome than using K/M lenses with Pentax DSLRs.

11-06-2013, 01:34 AM	#98
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Alizarine Looking at the DF now, I wonder how more FM2 it could be without the back LCD. If Pentax is taking "Pure Photography" to the next level... I wonder what would happen if they did the retro LX design and remove the LCD, and some buttons associated with it. Would it make the camera thinner and complete the look? Functionality is a bit axed though. But then again, thinking about it, many photographers before me learned how to take pictures without chimping after every shot, even for their "first 10,000 ones". Or, chimping through the VF. Think of a Sony A7r but then with no back LCD screen. Never needing to take your eye from the viewfinder. Wifi would make it possible to review the files on much bigger and higher resolution screens of a tablet, or smartphone anyway. It would shave some extra space off the camera, or would make some extra room for more usefull stuff.

11-06-2013, 04:08 AM	#99
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by Clavius Or, chimping through the VF. Think of a Sony A7r but then with no back LCD screen. Never needing to take your eye from the viewfinder. Wifi would make it possible to review the files on much bigger and higher resolution screens of a tablet, or smartphone anyway. It would shave some extra space off the camera, or would make some extra room for more usefull stuff. It would still be a very difficult sell

11-06-2013, 08:09 AM	#100
Parry Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 606	Originally posted by ElJamoquio It looks fantastic. I'd still rather have an 'ergo' body but if the DF was a Pentax the only question would be how many I'd order. A friend who was a Vietnam war photographer and now semi-retired pro just emailed me from Hong Kong. He mentioned he'd just handled a Nikon DF and was utterly scathing of the thing. Said it was a "kick in the bum to the classic Nikon FM" and was woefully overpriced for what it really is. He was not impressed.

11-07-2013, 07:27 AM	#101
TomE Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 299

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

11-07-2013, 07:39 AM	#102
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Parry A friend who was a Vietnam war photographer and now semi-retired pro just emailed me from Hong Kong. He mentioned he'd just handled a Nikon DF and was utterly scathing of the thing. Said it was a "kick in the bum to the classic Nikon FM" and was woefully overpriced for what it really is. He was not impressed. I find that to be totally believable.

11-07-2013, 07:42 AM	#103
disco_owner Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Sydney Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,629	Are you taking orders ? No seriusly that looks spot on cept the film winder

11-07-2013, 09:02 AM	#104
raphtze Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 136	kinda glad nikon is leading the charge marrying retro style with modern innards. i'm sure the new Df won't please everyone. and i'm sure if we ever get a FF pentax, there will be those who aren't satisfied. one thing for sure, the Df is giving nikon a lot of exposure. i'm sure an LX styled DSLR would sell like hotcakes. methinks however, when and if the pentax FF is released...it'll be a real modern classic, not unlike the K-7/5/3 cameras.

11-07-2013, 10:42 AM	#105
TomE Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 299	Forgot about the winder in my excitement over a LX-D!