FF: Let's keep this goin!

Katmandude · 10-22-2013, 04:52 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

But that would be like admitting the K-3 has excess unneccesary bulk. If it has the spare room to house the FF sensor and its larger mirror, mirror mechanism, SR mechanism and what not...

really, have you already taken a K3 apart?

Clavius · 10-22-2013, 04:58 AM

Originally posted by Katmandude

really, have you already taken a K3 apart?

LOL!

If I make a box for a as small as possible for tiny Fiat 500. And then later I take out the Fiat 500 and manage to shoehorn a big longhaul truck with a 40' container in that very same box. Then we can safely conclude that that box wasn't as small as it could have. We most probably don't have to take the box apart for that.

fyby · 10-22-2013, 05:00 AM

title says it all : DIY !

jogiba · 10-22-2013, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Lens mount – K-mount and is compatible with all K-mount lenses. There are plans to make mounts for Canon, Nikon, Sony, Olympus, Zeiss, Kiev and Leica lenses.

Katmandude · 10-22-2013, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

LOL!

If I make a box for a as small as possible for tiny Fiat 500. And then later I take out the Fiat 500 and manage to shoehorn a big longhaul truck with a 40' container in that very same box. Then we can safely conclude that that box wasn't as small as it could have. We most probably don't have to take the box apart for that.

well , in this case, unless you can show me there isn't space left in the K3 enclosure, i don't see why not. And that's beside the point.
we are speculating, not making definitive statements. from your line of replies, i can feel some hmmm, tension with this issue? have you seen the specs on the lastest Sony model? it has most of what the K3 has i terms of extras (mic jacks, input out put, RGB sensor etc... for a smaller frame! ok, there isn't stabilization on the sony model, but then again, the K3 is Approx. 131.5mm (W) x100mm (H) x 77.5mm (D) (excluding protrusions) and the sony is 127 x 94 x 48 mm (5.00 x 3.70 x 1.89″) so considering by how much the sensor has to move to be able to cope with the stab. I'm wondering if it's possible.

Clavius · 10-22-2013, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by Katmandude

well , in this case, unless you can show me there isn't space left in the K3 enclosure, i don't see why not. And that's beside the point.
we are speculating, not making definitive statements. from your line of replies, i can feel some hmmm, tension with this issue?

Nope, no tension, just amazement.

Originally posted by Katmandude

have you seen the specs on the lastest Sony model? it has most of what the K3 has i terms of extras (mic jacks, input out put, RGB sensor etc... for a smaller frame! ok, there isn't stabilization on the sony model, but then again, the K3 is Approx. 131.5mm (W) x100mm (H) x 77.5mm (D) (excluding protrusions) and the sony is 127 x 94 x 48 mm (5.00 x 3.70 x 1.89″) so considering by how much the sensor has to move to be able to cope with the stab. I'm wondering if it's possible.

Ever thought of the mirrorbox, the bigger mirror, the bigger mirrormechanism, etc?

Face it, Pentax isn't known for making things any bigger then they have to be. In fact, they've long been known for making worlds smallest APS-C DSLRs that pack a big punch. Canon only recently introduced a smaller one... with an ever so much smaller punch.)

And do you really see any extra spare space in here:

Katmandude · 10-22-2013, 07:47 AM

nice section bit, where was it, that's awesome ^^

civiletti · 10-22-2013, 08:50 AM

Pentaxians do not need a full frame camera. They can step up to an obsolete medium format with similar image quality at three times the price.

Katmandude · 10-22-2013, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by civiletti

Pentaxians do not need a full frame camera. They can step up to an obsolete medium format with similar image quality at three times the price.

I think it's more in tune with versatility, why not have a few different formats, with different strengths. If you think along the lines "one format to rule them all" what's the point of the 645D, of microphotography, of telescopes, of anything but APS... hmmmm ??

Clavius · 10-22-2013, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by Katmandude

nice section bit, where was it, that's awesome ^^

I don't know. I knew this image was available so I just googled "half K-5". Oh yes, it's not the K-3 of course, but the K-5II. I really like the good amount of detail. You can trace the entire path of light from the lens to the VF.

10-22-2013, 04:58 AM	#17
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Katmandude really, have you already taken a K3 apart? LOL! If I make a box for a as small as possible for tiny Fiat 500. And then later I take out the Fiat 500 and manage to shoehorn a big longhaul truck with a 40' container in that very same box. Then we can safely conclude that that box wasn't as small as it could have. We most probably don't have to take the box apart for that. Last edited by Clavius; 10-22-2013 at 05:05 AM.

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10-22-2013, 04:52 AM	#16
Katmandude Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 42	Originally posted by Clavius But that would be like admitting the K-3 has excess unneccesary bulk. If it has the spare room to house the FF sensor and its larger mirror, mirror mechanism, SR mechanism and what not... really, have you already taken a K3 apart?

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fyby Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Photos: Gallery Posts: 46	title says it all : DIY !

10-22-2013, 05:26 AM	#19
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Quote: Lens mount – K-mount and is compatible with all K-mount lenses. There are plans to make mounts for Canon, Nikon, Sony, Olympus, Zeiss, Kiev and Leica lenses.

10-22-2013, 06:47 AM	#20
Katmandude Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 42	Originally posted by Clavius LOL! If I make a box for a as small as possible for tiny Fiat 500. And then later I take out the Fiat 500 and manage to shoehorn a big longhaul truck with a 40' container in that very same box. Then we can safely conclude that that box wasn't as small as it could have. We most probably don't have to take the box apart for that. well , in this case, unless you can show me there isn't space left in the K3 enclosure, i don't see why not. And that's beside the point. we are speculating, not making definitive statements. from your line of replies, i can feel some hmmm, tension with this issue? have you seen the specs on the lastest Sony model? it has most of what the K3 has i terms of extras (mic jacks, input out put, RGB sensor etc... for a smaller frame! ok, there isn't stabilization on the sony model, but then again, the K3 is Approx. 131.5mm (W) x100mm (H) x 77.5mm (D) (excluding protrusions) and the sony is 127 x 94 x 48 mm (5.00 x 3.70 x 1.89″) so considering by how much the sensor has to move to be able to cope with the stab. I'm wondering if it's possible.

10-22-2013, 07:15 AM	#21
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Katmandude well , in this case, unless you can show me there isn't space left in the K3 enclosure, i don't see why not. And that's beside the point. we are speculating, not making definitive statements. from your line of replies, i can feel some hmmm, tension with this issue? Nope, no tension, just amazement. Originally posted by Katmandude have you seen the specs on the lastest Sony model? it has most of what the K3 has i terms of extras (mic jacks, input out put, RGB sensor etc... for a smaller frame! ok, there isn't stabilization on the sony model, but then again, the K3 is Approx. 131.5mm (W) x100mm (H) x 77.5mm (D) (excluding protrusions) and the sony is 127 x 94 x 48 mm (5.00 x 3.70 x 1.89″) so considering by how much the sensor has to move to be able to cope with the stab. I'm wondering if it's possible. Ever thought of the mirrorbox, the bigger mirror, the bigger mirrormechanism, etc? Face it, Pentax isn't known for making things any bigger then they have to be. In fact, they've long been known for making worlds smallest APS-C DSLRs that pack a big punch. Canon only recently introduced a smaller one... with an ever so much smaller punch.) And do you really see any extra spare space in here:

10-22-2013, 07:47 AM	#22
Katmandude Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 42	nice section bit, where was it, that's awesome ^^

10-22-2013, 08:50 AM	#23
civiletti Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Oregon Photos: Albums Posts: 1,435	Pentaxians do not need a full frame camera. They can step up to an obsolete medium format with similar image quality at three times the price.

10-22-2013, 09:22 AM	#24
Katmandude Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 42	Originally posted by civiletti Pentaxians do not need a full frame camera. They can step up to an obsolete medium format with similar image quality at three times the price. I think it's more in tune with versatility, why not have a few different formats, with different strengths. If you think along the lines "one format to rule them all" what's the point of the 645D, of microphotography, of telescopes, of anything but APS... hmmmm ??

10-22-2013, 11:03 AM	#25
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Katmandude nice section bit, where was it, that's awesome ^^ I don't know. I knew this image was available so I just googled "half K-5". Oh yes, it's not the K-3 of course, but the K-5II. I really like the good amount of detail. You can trace the entire path of light from the lens to the VF.