Originally posted by Ash Depends on the exposure of the image taken. Underexposed, and obviously there will be noise creeping in, particularly in the shadows, when processing the image.
The colors at ISO 1600 are usually poor. The noise is there.
I'm a little picky but not SUPER picky. That said when I take out the noise the colors are smeary.
1600 isn't terrible, don't get me wrong, but it's marginal in terms of being able to produce a 'great' picture IMO. I like to keep at at ISO 400 and below, and honestly most of the time I work to keep at at 80-100.
We can ignore our differences in opinion though and I acknowledge that at 'some' ISO, FF will be marginal and APS-C unacceptable, etc., etc.
In my experience the improvement over APS-C isn't really noise at high-ISO (I always just think in equivalent terms)... it's that the equivalent ISO goes down (on FF), to, say, ISO 40 or so. I love that, personally, but alone it probably wouldn't be worth it to purchase a FF camera.
Originally posted by Ash but it still has to be small enough and light enough with its FF lenses to carry around...)
That's the thing though... my D600 kit is lighter than my K-5 kit. It depends on what you're comparing of course. If I had just the K-5 and a 40mm it'd be lighter. If I had the K-5 and a few primes, it's heavier. It's a shame because I love primes, but it's tougher for me to justify them with good quality zoom lenses on FF.
I'm sure Pentax is working on a great FF, though, so I can't wait to see it come out...