Originally posted by Rondec Honestly, I haven't shot either camera, just played with the RAW files. I do see one person who is flogging the idea that the 645D is worthless compared to his Sony A7r, but I won't name any names.
Here's the thing, a lot of people buy cameras on size, not on spec, a friend of mine growing up had one of those little Minoxes. IQ didn't bother her, size did. The Sony A7rs have the size thing going for them. When I look at my old Program plus, it's a little smaller than my K-3 and lighter. I think that was kind of an optimum size. APS-c is closer to that size than most FFs are. Maybe you can get a camera down to that size and weight. If you can do that with FF maybe it has a shot. But right now, APS-c fills that spot, especially if you look at cameras like the Nikon D3200.
Everyone thinks IQ is the thing, personally, I think most people live with the IQ they get from what carries in their comfort zone. I can see the Sony A7 getting to that point, if it can be a product as good technically as a camera with an OVF. But when I see the lack of quality in the D800 and A7r reds in the images posted above, I'm also suspecting that those cameras have are suffering from diffraction in the red spectrum. Having a 50 Mp MF camera and a 30 MP FF may well be the optimum full spectrum use of those sensor sizes. Sure you can go over 100MP in the blue spectrum, but is it really any use pushing the resolution in Blue when Red, Yellow and Green are diffraction limited? Is the effect of that going to be an image that looks sharp or an image that looks blotchy and uneven?
The 645D and D800 images should be close to identical in Resolution... but, in the red spectrum and even in the green patch, they clearly aren't...
D800e and A7r
For the most part APS-c cameras occupy the old FF size factor. The 645D is still the same size, the modern FF before the A7r are a sort of orphan hybrid, maybe more like the old F4 with motor mount. FF will always be there for the portable pro. I think MF will shortly be making a comeback among the more serious pros. But APS-c will be the MEs and Program pluses and cameras of that class. It's the form factor that will kill current FF cameras, unless they can shrink them back to Program plus size.
After all, that program plus has an FF mirror assembly and shutter in there. That is when I would worry about FF taking over, when it moves into the APS-c size slot. APS-c could be smaller of course but many of us don't want smaller. APS-c is currently the size we want.
But for many pros and especially landscape artists, the 645D offers a much truer representation in the colours in the example above, and those who seek resolution in the red and green spectrums will be going that way. My K3 could conceivably be the camera that turns back the Mp race . The camera where people say, there's no point in increasing resolution in the blue spectrum, if our red spectrum is getting fuzzy.
The same patch shown above on the D800 and 645D... taken with the K-3
If this isn't reds becoming diffraction limited by smaller pixel sizes, maybe some one else can hazard another explanation. That's my best guess. You almost feel like saying, sure you can use a K-3 for anything as long as you don't need resolution in your reds. And if you do need resolution in your reds, you might want to grab a 645D before they bump up the pixel density, who knows what another 10 Mp is going to do.
Last edited by normhead; 01-23-2014 at 06:37 AM.