Ok, Lets build a fictional FF K-1s together

afan137 · 02-09-2014, 01:23 AM

K-1 that should be:
24 MP, same as Nikon D610
Min 8 FPS, will be a breakthrough if 10 FPS
Full HD 1080p Video at 60fps
AF double speed as K-3
Body slightly bigger than K-3
Tilt screen
all weather sealing
Price 2500-3000 USD

This specs will kill all the competitors in the market

Mazhe · 02-09-2014, 11:26 AM - **1 Like**

Mirror & Prism like in the LX.

**Kerrowdown** · 02-09-2014, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Mazhe

Mirror & Prism like in the LX.

Got my vote on that one.

Beaugrand · 02-09-2014, 10:44 PM

Connectivity, via WiFi and Bluetooth; should also have the ability to send/receive mms and sms via cell network directly or by being paired to another device such as smartphone.

All metal body.

Full K-mount compatibility, it should be able to use any K-mount lens ever made: totally, absolutely, completely. to that end, it should have a split-image circle for manual focusing mode.

If it happens to bear a strong resemblance to my Program Plus, even better.

Tesla · 02-10-2014, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by Beaugrand

Connectivity, via WiFi and Bluetooth; should also have the ability to send/receive mms and sms via cell network directly or by being paired to another device such as smartphone.

All metal body.

Full K-mount compatibility, it should be able to use any K-mount lens ever made: totally, absolutely, completely. to that end, it should have a split-image circle for manual focusing mode.

If it happens to bear a strong resemblance to my Program Plus, even better.

I suggested interchangeable focus screens.. hasn't been added to the list though.

Clavius · 02-10-2014, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by rbefly

Styling? I'm on record many times with this, but I'll say it again;
No Retro.
Not "Retro Done Right!", no phony nostalgia, no appalling 'faux' 70's hipster look, 'Remember me?' dials and knobs, wannabe.

I don't know... It would be kinda nice to finally have a camera with a design that matches the style of the limited lenses. Those fantastic lenses always look a bit silly, retro sticking on a modern camera. But then again... Most limiteds are DA anyway, so they would be out of place on the fictional FF anyway.

While I know the K-5-design series of cameras is metal (magnesium alloy) it just doesn't feel like real metal, but more like plastic. Now the limited lenses, THAT feels like metal. A camera that feels like those ltds, would be really cool. No rubber grips either, just have the metal knurled there.

Ok, I'll stop fantasizing now.

**Kerrowdown** · 02-10-2014, 03:25 PM

Has all these thread postings not been forward to the Pentax R&D department yet, so they can all be incorporated pronto.

Beaugrand · 02-10-2014, 04:55 PM

My reason for interest in a full-frame dSLR is that I still have a lot of glass from traditional 135 cameras.

Most of my PK stuff works okay-ish with my K-r, so as long as I'm satisfied with manual focus it's all good.

**Kerrowdown** · 02-11-2014, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Beaugrand

I still have a lot of glass from traditional 135 cameras

Many here are the same, manual focus still works for me, well most of the time anyway.

When it doesn't, I know it's pilot error and not technical, so I can't blame the kit.

Beaugrand · 02-12-2014, 02:49 AM

What I would like to see, not necessarily in a FF but at least APS-C, is a digital equivalent K1000 "student camera": manual settings only (manual focus, shutter speed, ISO and aperture settings). Compatible with any PK lens ever made, powered by either AA or rechargeable pack. And only available in black, or black with silver trim...

RonHendriks1966 · 02-12-2014, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by Beaugrand

What I would like to see, not necessarily in a FF but at least APS-C, is a digital equivalent K1000 "student camera": manual settings only (manual focus, shutter speed, ISO and aperture settings). Compatible with any PK lens ever made, powered by either AA or rechargeable pack. And only available in black, or black with silver trim...

Students want a camera that can be handled by their smartphone and not some old thing from the past.

Clavius · 02-12-2014, 03:44 AM

Originally posted by Beaugrand

What I would like to see, not necessarily in a FF but at least APS-C, is a digital equivalent K1000 "student camera": manual settings only (manual focus, shutter speed, ISO and aperture settings). Compatible with any PK lens ever made, powered by either AA or rechargeable pack. And only available in black, or black with silver trim...

All cameras have the option of going manual. But I do like your reference to the K1000 though. The K1000 was thé camera that made the 35mm ILC available for everybody. Pentax could do that again. Although some might say the A7 already does that.

Beaugrand · 02-12-2014, 05:24 AM

I've noticed that the K-1000 still commands a higher price than newer, more complex, "more capable" Pentax cameras; I believe, from the number of K-1000 "clones," it may be the most copied camera of the last 40 years.

The last of the film SLRs in production were mostly "student" cameras. Perhaps someone should do some market research (and maybe check "student camera" prices on Amazon, Buy.com, eBay), and see if there is actual demand for a manual-only digital camera.

Fogel70 · 02-12-2014, 06:59 AM

I think Leica already cover most of the all manual digital camera market.

Clavius · 02-12-2014, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by Fogel70

I think Leica already cover most of the all manual digital camera market.

I know very little students with the budget to buy a Leica though.

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02-09-2014, 01:23 AM	#106
afan137 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kyoto Posts: 158	K-1 that should be: 24 MP, same as Nikon D610 Min 8 FPS, will be a breakthrough if 10 FPS Full HD 1080p Video at 60fps AF double speed as K-3 Body slightly bigger than K-3 Tilt screen all weather sealing Price 2500-3000 USD This specs will kill all the competitors in the market

02-09-2014, 11:26 AM - 1 Like	#107
Mazhe Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 139	Mirror & Prism like in the LX.

02-09-2014, 11:39 AM	#108
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,815	Originally posted by Mazhe Mirror & Prism like in the LX. Got my vote on that one.

02-09-2014, 10:44 PM	#109
Beaugrand Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 63	Connectivity, via WiFi and Bluetooth; should also have the ability to send/receive mms and sms via cell network directly or by being paired to another device such as smartphone. All metal body. Full K-mount compatibility, it should be able to use any K-mount lens ever made: totally, absolutely, completely. to that end, it should have a split-image circle for manual focusing mode. If it happens to bear a strong resemblance to my Program Plus, even better.

02-10-2014, 01:18 AM	#110
Tesla Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Washington State Posts: 589	Originally posted by Beaugrand Connectivity, via WiFi and Bluetooth; should also have the ability to send/receive mms and sms via cell network directly or by being paired to another device such as smartphone. All metal body. Full K-mount compatibility, it should be able to use any K-mount lens ever made: totally, absolutely, completely. to that end, it should have a split-image circle for manual focusing mode. If it happens to bear a strong resemblance to my Program Plus, even better. I suggested interchangeable focus screens.. hasn't been added to the list though.

02-10-2014, 05:58 AM	#111
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by rbefly Styling? I'm on record many times with this, but I'll say it again; No Retro. Not "Retro Done Right!", no phony nostalgia, no appalling 'faux' 70's hipster look, 'Remember me?' dials and knobs, wannabe. I don't know... It would be kinda nice to finally have a camera with a design that matches the style of the limited lenses. Those fantastic lenses always look a bit silly, retro sticking on a modern camera. But then again... Most limiteds are DA anyway, so they would be out of place on the fictional FF anyway. While I know the K-5-design series of cameras is metal (magnesium alloy) it just doesn't feel like real metal, but more like plastic. Now the limited lenses, THAT feels like metal. A camera that feels like those ltds, would be really cool. No rubber grips either, just have the metal knurled there. Ok, I'll stop fantasizing now.

02-10-2014, 03:25 PM	#112
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,815	Has all these thread postings not been forward to the Pentax R&D department yet, so they can all be incorporated pronto.

02-10-2014, 04:55 PM	#113
Beaugrand Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 63	My reason for interest in a full-frame dSLR is that I still have a lot of glass from traditional 135 cameras. Most of my PK stuff works okay-ish with my K-r, so as long as I'm satisfied with manual focus it's all good.

02-11-2014, 02:48 PM	#114
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,815	Originally posted by Beaugrand I still have a lot of glass from traditional 135 cameras Many here are the same, manual focus still works for me, well most of the time anyway. When it doesn't, I know it's pilot error and not technical, so I can't blame the kit.

02-12-2014, 02:49 AM	#115
Beaugrand Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 63	What I would like to see, not necessarily in a FF but at least APS-C, is a digital equivalent K1000 "student camera": manual settings only (manual focus, shutter speed, ISO and aperture settings). Compatible with any PK lens ever made, powered by either AA or rechargeable pack. And only available in black, or black with silver trim...

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02-12-2014, 02:57 AM	#116
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by Beaugrand What I would like to see, not necessarily in a FF but at least APS-C, is a digital equivalent K1000 "student camera": manual settings only (manual focus, shutter speed, ISO and aperture settings). Compatible with any PK lens ever made, powered by either AA or rechargeable pack. And only available in black, or black with silver trim... Students want a camera that can be handled by their smartphone and not some old thing from the past.

02-12-2014, 03:44 AM	#117
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Beaugrand What I would like to see, not necessarily in a FF but at least APS-C, is a digital equivalent K1000 "student camera": manual settings only (manual focus, shutter speed, ISO and aperture settings). Compatible with any PK lens ever made, powered by either AA or rechargeable pack. And only available in black, or black with silver trim... All cameras have the option of going manual. But I do like your reference to the K1000 though. The K1000 was thé camera that made the 35mm ILC available for everybody. Pentax could do that again. Although some might say the A7 already does that.

02-12-2014, 05:24 AM	#118
Beaugrand Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 63	I've noticed that the K-1000 still commands a higher price than newer, more complex, "more capable" Pentax cameras; I believe, from the number of K-1000 "clones," it may be the most copied camera of the last 40 years. The last of the film SLRs in production were mostly "student" cameras. Perhaps someone should do some market research (and maybe check "student camera" prices on Amazon, Buy.com, eBay), and see if there is actual demand for a manual-only digital camera.

02-12-2014, 06:59 AM	#119
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	I think Leica already cover most of the all manual digital camera market.

02-12-2014, 07:23 AM	#120
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Fogel70 I think Leica already cover most of the all manual digital camera market. I know very little students with the budget to buy a Leica though.