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**GlassJunkie** · 09-24-2014, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

At that P/E it would still take GoPro 450 years to earn back my capital commitment. That's a bubble number.

If their PE drops to a ridiculously high 100, triple my upside...

I'm right with you

RonHendriks1966 · 09-25-2014, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

At that P/E it would still take GoPro 450 years to earn back my capital commitment. That's a bubble number.

Originally posted by GlassJunkie

But long term Put options are still being traded... 500 January '17 Puts strike 65. a 50% correction to a 450PE in the next 2 years? makes ~$40/share buying the puts at $23/shr...

All I know is you are soooooooooooooooooooooooo right.

If we only had bought the GoPro share at introduction, we all we walking around with 645Z

Clavius · 09-25-2014, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

If we only had bought the GoPro share at introduction, we all we walking around with 645Z

...and whining about when they will release a 645 camera with an actual 60x45 sensor instead.

**GlassJunkie** · 09-25-2014, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

...and whining about when they will release a 645 camera with an actual 60x45 sensor instead.

No....

!!!

Jean Poitiers · 09-26-2014, 04:30 AM

"If you build it, they will come." *

* FF tag-line (FF = Family Friendly) ... or insert a tag-line of your liking.

A French friend loaned me the DVD, so gonna watch it this weekend

ragmanjin · 09-28-2014, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

[who buys nikon}How about GoPro?

My vote's in for JK Imaging.

RonHendriks1966 · 09-28-2014, 06:19 AM

Originally posted by ragmanjin

My vote's in for JK Imaging.

Well they are building a photographic empire.

RonHendriks1966 · 09-30-2014, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

oh look, today GoPro's market cap is 9.18B

They must have sold at least some new camera's....

They announced some new camera's and now the marketvalue is: 11,46B

Hilarious

pz1fan · 11-08-2014, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by akanarya

It is about to end this topic and open a new one for 2016. Congrats to Pentax.

Suddenly, 2016 doesn't seem so far away. 2015 would be better.

cosmonaut · 11-09-2014, 03:51 PM - **1 Like**

To all. I jumped ship from Olympus when it was clear the E7 wasn't going to happen. I moved to a Sony a850 and then an a99. I also have an a7r and can tell you I am very happy with both. Despite what others have said I have never had an issue with shutter shock on my a7r. I had a m4/3rd EM-1 and couldn't get rid of it fast enough. The shutter shock was horrible.
I really think Sony has the best mirrorless system out there. Plus they have Zeiss lenses. The system isn't for all but my a99 is a dream to use. No mirror flap, quite, nice FPS for what it is. Great image quality. It's just an all around fun camera to use.

Uluru · 11-09-2014, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by cosmonaut

To all. I jumped ship from Olympus when it was clear the E7 wasn't going to happen. I moved to a Sony a850 and then an a99. I also have an a7r and can tell you I am very happy with both. Despite what others have said I have never had an issue with shutter shock on my a7r. I had a m4/3rd EM-1 and couldn't get rid of it fast enough. The shutter shock was horrible.
I really think Sony has the best mirrorless system out there. Plus they have Zeiss lenses. The system isn't for all but my a99 is a dream to use. No mirror flap, quite, nice FPS for what it is. Great image quality. It's just an all around fun camera to use.

Excellent. And you also work as a Sony's rep in lunch breaks too.

MarkJerling · 11-09-2014, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by Uluru

Excellent. And you also work as a Sony's rep in lunch breaks too.

What about tea breaks?

Clavius · 11-10-2014, 02:16 AM

In all fairness... I was told that shutter-shock was a myth, because when the shutter curtains arrive at the bottem and finally create their vibration the exposure was already finalized. I assumed that as true as it seems really plausible. Mirrorslap otoh is real, because that happens precisely before exposure and therefore the vibrations still have influense.

Personally, I only ever experienced mirrorslap when doing extreme macro. Think of wobbly contraptions like a camera on a linear stage with fully extended bellows with microscope lens attached to it. Mirror up shooting fixes that completely. That more or less confirmed to me that shutter-shock is a myth.

Anyway, I don't think any of the two is a real problem in normal shooting.

Aksel · 11-10-2014, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by cosmonaut

To all. I jumped ship from Olympus when it was clear the E7 wasn't going to happen. I moved to a Sony...

I had the same dilemma. But I chose Pentax.

cosmonaut · 11-10-2014, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Uluru

Excellent. And you also work as a Sony's rep in lunch breaks too.

Nope not a sales rep. But I have to give it to Pentax they are the most under rated system out there. I have thought this for a long time. I would love to see a FF offering from them. I mean they have everything else including medium format.

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09-24-2014, 04:36 PM	#781
GlassJunkie Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: St Petersburg Photos: Albums Posts: 402	I'm with you. There is upside to my downside "Put" strategy... Originally posted by monochrome At that P/E it would still take GoPro 450 years to earn back my capital commitment. That's a bubble number. If their PE drops to a ridiculously high 100, triple my upside... I'm right with you

09-25-2014, 09:25 AM	#784
GlassJunkie Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: St Petersburg Photos: Albums Posts: 402	Originally posted by Clavius ...and whining about when they will release a 645 camera with an actual 60x45 sensor instead. No....!!!

09-28-2014, 01:11 AM	#786
ragmanjin Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Great White North, eh Posts: 25	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 [who buys nikon}How about GoPro? My vote's in for JK Imaging. Last edited by ragmanjin; 09-28-2014 at 01:18 AM.

11-08-2014, 02:31 PM	#789
pz1fan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: United States Posts: 183	full frame would be nice Originally posted by akanarya It is about to end this topic and open a new one for 2016. Congrats to Pentax. Suddenly, 2016 doesn't seem so far away. 2015 would be better.

09-25-2014, 01:41 AM	#782
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by monochrome At that P/E it would still take GoPro 450 years to earn back my capital commitment. That's a bubble number. Originally posted by GlassJunkie But long term Put options are still being traded... 500 January '17 Puts strike 65. a 50% correction to a 450PE in the next 2 years? makes ~$40/share buying the puts at $23/shr... All I know is you are soooooooooooooooooooooooo right. If we only had bought the GoPro share at introduction, we all we walking around with 645Z

09-25-2014, 02:16 AM	#783
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 If we only had bought the GoPro share at introduction, we all we walking around with 645Z ...and whining about when they will release a 645 camera with an actual 60x45 sensor instead.

09-26-2014, 04:30 AM	#785
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	"If you build it, they will come." * * FF tag-line (FF = Family Friendly) ... or insert a tag-line of your liking. A French friend loaned me the DVD, so gonna watch it this weekend

09-28-2014, 06:19 AM	#787
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by ragmanjin My vote's in for JK Imaging. Well they are building a photographic empire.

09-30-2014, 02:35 PM	#788
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 oh look, today GoPro's market cap is 9.18B They must have sold at least some new camera's.... They announced some new camera's and now the marketvalue is: 11,46B Hilarious

11-09-2014, 03:51 PM - 1 Like	#790
cosmonaut Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 35	To all. I jumped ship from Olympus when it was clear the E7 wasn't going to happen. I moved to a Sony a850 and then an a99. I also have an a7r and can tell you I am very happy with both. Despite what others have said I have never had an issue with shutter shock on my a7r. I had a m4/3rd EM-1 and couldn't get rid of it fast enough. The shutter shock was horrible. I really think Sony has the best mirrorless system out there. Plus they have Zeiss lenses. The system isn't for all but my a99 is a dream to use. No mirror flap, quite, nice FPS for what it is. Great image quality. It's just an all around fun camera to use.

11-09-2014, 04:11 PM	#791
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by cosmonaut To all. I jumped ship from Olympus when it was clear the E7 wasn't going to happen. I moved to a Sony a850 and then an a99. I also have an a7r and can tell you I am very happy with both. Despite what others have said I have never had an issue with shutter shock on my a7r. I had a m4/3rd EM-1 and couldn't get rid of it fast enough. The shutter shock was horrible. I really think Sony has the best mirrorless system out there. Plus they have Zeiss lenses. The system isn't for all but my a99 is a dream to use. No mirror flap, quite, nice FPS for what it is. Great image quality. It's just an all around fun camera to use. Excellent. And you also work as a Sony's rep in lunch breaks too.

11-09-2014, 06:47 PM	#792
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,423	Originally posted by Uluru Excellent. And you also work as a Sony's rep in lunch breaks too. What about tea breaks?

11-10-2014, 02:16 AM	#793
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	In all fairness... I was told that shutter-shock was a myth, because when the shutter curtains arrive at the bottem and finally create their vibration the exposure was already finalized. I assumed that as true as it seems really plausible. Mirrorslap otoh is real, because that happens precisely before exposure and therefore the vibrations still have influense. Personally, I only ever experienced mirrorslap when doing extreme macro. Think of wobbly contraptions like a camera on a linear stage with fully extended bellows with microscope lens attached to it. Mirror up shooting fixes that completely. That more or less confirmed to me that shutter-shock is a myth. Anyway, I don't think any of the two is a real problem in normal shooting.

11-10-2014, 02:18 AM	#794
Aksel Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 224	Originally posted by cosmonaut To all. I jumped ship from Olympus when it was clear the E7 wasn't going to happen. I moved to a Sony... I had the same dilemma. But I chose Pentax.

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cosmonaut Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 35	Originally posted by Uluru Excellent. And you also work as a Sony's rep in lunch breaks too. Nope not a sales rep. But I have to give it to Pentax they are the most under rated system out there. I have thought this for a long time. I would love to see a FF offering from them. I mean they have everything else including medium format.

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