Originally posted by amoringello There are actually ZERO changes in DOF in your examples. DOF is roughly 22in to 23in in all examples.
Perceived sharpness may change as the ratio of in focus v.s. out of focus area becomes larger.
But actual DOF changing? Nope!
You're trying to make the same argument a few angry folks made when Lee Jay originally posted that
The DOF in
the image is much greater as you crop. As I said earlier, and people point out to seemingly deaf ears, is that what's happening on the sensor doesn't change - the change in DOF comes when you change the display size of the crop. This is why you can't divorce display size, viewing distnace, etc from the question of DOF. This should be very clear to you, and I suspect it is - no-one is saying anything physically changes with the sensor, but the act of cropping and magnifying the crop changes the image DOF. The evidence is right there in front of you.
By the way, other important things change when you display crops at the same size as the original image, like image noise and image DR. Display size is always entirely pertinent - keeping things at the sensor level only is what's missing the point.
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Originally posted by amoringello WTF? Field of view does not affect DOF in any way what-so-ever!
You're not getting what I (and Bob Atkins) was saying - the change in FOV affects the
image - it makes it a radically different image, although the DOF stays the same. But if you frame it the same on FF from the same distance, with the same FOV and F-stop (presumably to keep the same subject in the frame with the same shutter speed,) your FF image will have 1.3 stops less DOF (but will be taken with a FL 1.5x longer to retain the same FOV.)
The point I was making was that "DOF does not change if you use the same lens on both formats from the same distance", which is what your link seemed to want to prove, isn't a point that ever was in dispute.
Quote: The rest of the statements do not even make sense without qualifying which parameters are staying the same or changing.
Simply including lens and sensor/body type is insufficient for any calculation and are completely meaningless on their own.
The parameters that matter, which are not fleshed out in all the bullet points: keeping F-stop the same, and distance to subject the same.
For a practical example:
33mm f/1.8 aps-c =~ 50mm f/2.8 FF. (in terms of FOV, DOF)
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