Originally posted by jsherman999 .... with some effusive 'conclusions' that conflate what's being asked by the OP with what you think was being asked. It's almost like you're arguing against something you read somewhere else.
From the OP; "Both are FF-compatible and I have a FF-senor camera and a mFT camera with adapter, so I can use both lenses on both cameras.
Why would anyone say using the FF camera he get's "more DoF control" using any of the lenses?"
You may want to go back and read it yourself! It's all about DOF.
Originally posted by jsherman999 When you're working within an equivalence framework, they are not entirely independent, and are affected by the same parameters...
Equivalence framework? You are going way beyond DOF into display and printing.
If you do not understand the scope of the terms, please do not use them in your arguments.
Originally posted by jsherman999 Which I mentioned as well, in that very post. Tell me, how do you match the 50 f/1.8's higher-aperture FOV and DOF capabilities on FF, on aps-c with an existing aps-c lens? You can come close with a Sigma 35mm f/1.4, but it costs about 8 times as much and is larger.. and still doesn't quite match it. This speaks directly to the OP's original question, I think.
If you had actually read anything I wrote instead of quickly making counter arguments, you would easily be able to determine exactly what you ask. I trust you can comprehend simple math and work it out yourself. Although if you'd like I will explain it again.
Originally posted by jsherman999 You have been doing that a bit throughout the thread, I think, and it makes me wonder how many times I thought I was following up on something you said in reference to me when actually you were confused, and were speaking to some other point. Would explain the wheel-spinning feeling I have here.
And as you must certainly have noticed, that was a direct quote from you.
The satirical irony was apparently lost and your further attacks therefore misplaced.
The confusion seems to be all on your side at the moment.
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Honestly, I am not sure it is something you will take the time to figure out yourself so I'll spoon feed it out for you....
Lets say you have the two camera/lens combinations. (very common for each)...
1) Full Frame camera with 24-70 f/4.0 lens.
You set the camera on a tripod to frame your subject at 24mm focal length.
Set Aperture to f/4.0.
2) Crop sensor camera with 16-50 f/2.8 lens
You set the camera on the same tripod above at the same location to frame your subject.
You must change the focal length to 16mm focal length to retain framing.
Set Aperture to f/2.8. (and the magic happens)
Since distance to subject remained static (did not change), a change in focal length from 24mm to 16mm is required to maintain the identical field of view and relative size of subject.
Since you change one property of DOF, you must change another to balance the equation.
Setting aperture from f/4.0 down to f/2.8 will do that and bring the DOF back to what was in the FF original.
Final result.....
DOF as well as the field of view and framing of subject are all maintained in both FF and Crop.
You may do similar balancing of properties when going from FF to medium or full frame.
Now, if the FF camera had a f/1.4 lens... you would be hard pressed to get a lens on a crop body to balance things out.
Don't know how to simplify it any further than that.