Originally posted by OregonJim (from Norm's quote):
So, all of my lenses are designed for a FF (35mm) system. I use them on my K-3. Therefore, the whole equivalence argument goes out the window, because the advantage is all in the FF lenses, according to the FF proponents. But I'm already using the SAME LENSES, so I get all the 'equivalence' advantages on my APS-C sized sensor. Don't you guys see the folly in the whole theory?
You're not understanding what Joseph James was saying there, and a lot of people make this exact same mistake so I'm not picking on you - here's the quote for reference, then I'll explain:
"..
.In short, the advantage of a larger sensor system over a smaller sensor system is that the larger sensor system will generally have lenses that have wider aperture (entrance pupil) diameters for a AOV (diagonal angle of view) than smaller sensor systems, which allows for more shallow DOFs (as an option, not a requirement) and will put more light on the sensor for a given exposure, resulting in less noise..."
Note the 'wider aperture diameters for a AOV' - he's talking about the linear aperture, the entrance pupil,
not the f-stop,
for a given AOV.
Remember, the linear aperture (entrance pupil when you look down the front of the lens) is related to the F-stop with this formula:
FL / f-stop = entrance pupil diameter (linear aperture)
So, for a 50mm f/1.8 lens, wide-open we have:
50 / 1.8 == 27.8mm entrance pupil
Now, for the
same AOV on, say, micro-4/3, we have to use a 25mm lens, so say we have a 25mm f/1.8 lens available:
25 / 1.8 == 13.9mm entrance pupil
So, for the same AOV & distance to subject, even though we're using the same F-stop and getting the same light density (exposure) allowing the same shutter speed, the larger sensor is getting more total light due to the wider aperture diameter (27mm vs 13mm.) This results in less DOF, and less photon shot noise
** for the larger sensor in that comparison.
Make sense?
To bring it home, a basic equivalence quiz: looking at the
formula above,
what f-stop would be needed on a 25mm micro 4/3 lens to match the 50mm 1.8 on FF?
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** Note, photon shot noise - not total noise - total noise is determined by shot noise, read noise, and sensor efficiency. So for example, a given m43 sensor with much greater efficiency and much less read noise than a given FF sensor could show less total noise in the image, even though the FF sensor starts out with lower shot noise.